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Moterboard and cpu package wanted

devonfudge Avatar
9y, 10m agoPosted 9 years, 10 months ago
hi i currently have a amd64 3000, 1.256 gb ram, nvidia 7800 gtx 500w psu and im looking to upgrade my cpu and mother board any sugestions looking to spend bout £200 ish

I was thinkin a core 2 duo e6300 with a gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6 ive found both for £199 is there anything better out there? ne one no if prices will fall soon? hope you all can help me here thanx
Ben
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#1
I'm not sure I can help you, but I am looking for some components! Do you have any for sale?! :-D
#2
devonfudge
hi i currently have a amd64 3000, 1.256 gb ram, nvidia 7800 gtx 500w psu and im looking to upgrade my cpu and mother board any sugestions looking to spend bout £200 ish

I was thinkin a core 2 duo e6300 with a gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6 ive found both for £199 is there anything better out there? ne one no if prices will fall soon? hope you all can help me here thanx
Ben


So is the graphics card a PCI 16??

take a look at prices on [url]www.microdirect.co.uk[/url] ...3% Quidco cashback..think prices are stable for the time being.
#3
Try Novatech...and go through Quidco to them for an extra 3% I bought an AMD upgrade bundle for a customer for around £110 before Xmas

Theres an e6300 bundle with RAM for £205.63 + Delivery

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/bundles.html
#4
You wi8ll have to make sure your new motherboard supports your current ram and graphics card.

Is it an AGP or PCI-express card? Is your current ram DDR or DDR2?
#5
graphics is pci express 16and current ram is ddr the new mobo wont support ddr ne1 recomend good ddr2?
#6
Pan111
Try Novatech...and go through Quidco to them for an extra 3% I bought an AMD upgrade bundle for a customer for around £110 before Xmas

Theres an e6300 bundle with RAM for £205.63 + Delivery

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/bundles.html

mobo is ddr not ddr2 on novatech unless u spend 280 i think it would be better to go for ddr2 these days then i could build a pc out of the parts i will have left over
#7
If you can get that bundle for £199 I would go for it. £240(ish) is the cheapest I can find.

As for DDR2 ram, it all depends on what you want but timings are not as crucial in DDR2 as they were in the old DDR. So basically I would go for some basic stufff from Corsair, Crucial, or Kingston.

I have always bought Kingston in the past, a lot of people prefer Corsair or Crucial but I have had 100% error free computing with Kingston so I will stick by them.

Here is a link to some decent 2gb deals for about £120.

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/cat/Memory---Desktop/subcat/DDR2-5400-2GB
#8
beerman1
If you can get that bundle for £199 I would go for it. £240(ish) is the cheapest I can find.

As for DDR2 ram, it all depends on what you want but timings are not as crucial in DDR2 as they were in the old DDR. So basically I would go for some basic stufff from Corsair, Crucial, or Kingston.

I have always bought Kingston in the past, a lot of people prefer Corsair or Crucial but I have had 100% error free computing with Kingston so I will stick by them.

Here is a link to some decent 2gb deals for about £120.

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/cat/Memory---Desktop/subcat/DDR2-5400-2GB

i have kingston value select at the mo so i think ill go for that.
gona hold off for a few days as ive posted on a few forums!

any one know any good forums for pc?

can ne1 better what ive found?
#9
if you want higher spec memory take a look at the offer on this link
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/k.asp?action=weekly
#10
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=313034

6300 core 2 upgrade kit including 2gb of ram
#11
The last link mate was not such a good deal. Now that the skt775 boards have had time to settle in we can learn from each other and that board is not a patch on the one he is looking at in his original post. (But yes a massive price difference). You can get the board in your post for just over £40 making the whole bundle well below £300 in any market, yet Komplett are charging £295 + postage.

Obviously this guy knows something about PC's as he is building this thing himself (I think), and the original board he is looking at is one hell of a board. At the price of £199 for both the board and e6300 I would say go go go, go get it dude. Ramp up the fsb and stick that baby on another planet, if you do decide to purchase that bundle you have just got yourself a cheap fast-track to an Athlon FX-62 beater!!! ;)

But yes Currychops I must say your other post was a great price:
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/cart.asp

But check compatibility issues as OCZ can be particular with their choice of motherboard.
#12
beerman1
The last link mate was not such a good deal. Now that the skt775 boards have had time to settle in we can learn from each other and that board is not a patch on the one he is looking at in his original post. (But yes a massive price difference). You can get the board in your post for just over £40 making the whole bundle well below £300 in any market, yet Komplett are charging £295 + postage.

Obviously this guy knows something about PC's as he is building this thing himself (I think), and the original board he is looking at is one hell of a board. At the price of £199 for both the board and e6300 I would say go go go, go get it dude. Ramp up the fsb and stick that baby on another planet, if you do decide to purchase that bundle you have just got yourself a cheap fast-track to an Athlon FX-62 beater!!! ;)

But yes Currychops I must say your other post was a great price:
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/cart.asp

But check compatibility issues as OCZ can be particular with their choice of motherboard.

it would of been good but out of stock now!!! any one no eny other deals i dont mind paying a little more!
#13
I must say I didn't do my research on the individual cost of the items in the Komplett bundle..and agree I would definately go for a better mobo..in fact I'd spend all I could afford on the mobo as that's where you'll get the benefits of better components and a better build quality...myself I'd also want raid...I like Asus boards but that's just because they've given me total reliability over the years.

If you want the "higher" quality memory have you priced the high spec stuff on Crucial...there is currently a 10% voucher (look in the voucher section) and you get a generous 7% quidco cashback.
#14
Well for that board I think the cheapest you are going to get it for is £128 here:
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=123452&_LOC=UK

And I would stick with that board as it really is a great performer.

As for your processor have you not thought about the 4300? When first released I thought it was going to be a bit of a donkey but in fact it is even better than the 6300!!

At just £108 it is a bargain, coupled with that board you will get well over 3ghz on air due to it having a clock multiplyer x9!!

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=25040379586&action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X3Jldmlld3M=&product_uid=121407

Also with this e4300 processor you can couple it with cheap ram as it does not realy on good timings to get high clocks. So again you can go out and buy some Kingston, or crucial value ram at £120 for 2gb. ;)

Personally that is the package I would go for coupled with 2gb of Kingston ram.
#15
http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47618

you may want to have a look at this memory deal.

and this CPU
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=14432&GroupID=1674

and this mobo
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=14497&GroupID=1087

same really as beerman but just an alternative supplier with 3% quidco
#16
beerman1
Well for that board I think the cheapest you are going to get it for is £128 here:
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=123452&_LOC=UK

And I would stick with that board as it really is a great performer.

As for your processor have you not thought about the 4300? When first released I thought it was going to be a bit of a donkey but in fact it is even better than the 6300!!

At just £108 it is a bargain, coupled with that board you will get well over 3ghz on air due to it having a clock multiplyer x9!!

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=25040379586&action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X3Jldmlld3M=&product_uid=121407

Also with this e4300 processor you can couple it with cheap ram as it does not realy on good timings to get high clocks. So again you can go out and buy some Kingston, or crucial value ram at £120 for 2gb. ;)

Personally that is the package I would go for coupled with 2gb of Kingston ram.

ive read that that processor runs alot hotter thus not being able to overclock as much.
i should be able to clock the e6300 to 3ghz with a gigabyte ds3/ds4/dq6 from what ive read making it better,

or am i wrong

On another forum im posting on someone told me that that board(dq6) would be overkill (to good) and recomend a gigabyte ds3/ds4 unless i can get dq cheaper i can get the dq6 refurbished for £70 - 100 from ebuyer but ony with 90 day waranty

any one no what ebuyer refurbs are lke?

i think i mght go with th ds3 or ds4 as new they ge a 36month waranty just goin to have a look afer ive been shoping

thanx for all your replies

Ben
#17
try:

[url]www.cclonline.com[/url]
#18
Hello mate.

I have never heard the e4300 running hot, in fact it is totally the opposite mate.

You may have heard people using the term "HOT" cpu but hot meaning this thing is like sh*t off a stick.

The main benefit of the 4300 is that it can max out at close to 3.5ghz just by altering the fsb and with bog standard memory.

Whereas to hit the 3.5ghz mark with the e6300 you will have to go and spend money on top quality clocking memory because it only has a x7 multiplier meaning the memory timings on the ram will have to be higher to achieve this maximum overclock.

But yes you will hit 3ghz no problem on either chip. The problems on the e6300 will only start to occur if you try pushing it close to 3.5 with cheap memory, you will probably not be able to get the ram clock high enough. But the e4300 will not have this problem.

And yes mate, the DS3 will be a great option, just as good for your needs. I meant the Gigabyte 965 series as a whole are a great set of boards, so get whichever is cheapest and suits your needs better.

Overall the e6300 and e4300 are almost identical in performance, the e4300 is just a heck of a lot easier to overclock and works out a fiar bit cheaper if you consider you don't need to buy super ram to get your maximum overclock.

I would get the 4300 but either one will not be a bad choice.

Good luck with whatever chip and ram you choose....and enjoy. ;)
#19
wouldn't touch a refurb mobo...although I expect some are fine it's just that I've had 3 mobos that have failed after about 9/10 months so like to have the security of a warranty.

The mobo is a personal choice...I would ensure it has the latest chipset even if that can be termed as "overkill" and I have a preference for raid.
#20
beerman1
Hello mate.

I have never heard the e4300 running hot, in fact it is totally the opposite mate.

You may have heard people using the term "HOT" cpu but hot meaning this thing is like sh*t off a stick.

The main benefit of the 4300 is that it can max out at close to 3.5ghz just by altering the fsb and with bog standard memory.

Whereas to hit the 3.5ghz mark with the e6300 you will have to go and spend money on top quality clocking memory because it only has a x7 multiplier meaning the memory timings on the ram will have to be higher to achieve this maximum overclock.

But yes you will hit 3ghz no problem on either chip. The problems on the e6300 will only start to occur if you try pushing it close to 3.5 with cheap memory, you will probably not be able to get the ram clock high enough. But the e4300 will not have this problem.

And yes mate, the DS3 will be a great option, just as good for your needs. I meant the Gigabyte 965 series as a whole are a great set of boards, so get whichever is cheapest and suits your needs better.

Overall the e6300 and e4300 are almost identical in performance, the e4300 is just a heck of a lot easier to overclock and works out a fiar bit cheaper if you consider you don't need to buy super ram to get your maximum overclock.

I would get the 4300 but either one will not be a bad choice.

Good luck with whatever chip and ram you choose....and enjoy. ;)


whats the best mobo for the e4300 then ds3?
also e4300 £99.75 + £6.75 delivery cheapest so far komplett
#21
what is the best/recomended mobo then
and e4300 any better deals around? than the 1 above?

so far

e4300 = £106.70 inc delivery @ http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=330167
ds3 = £78.38 inc delivery @ http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=437659
#22
best mobo is the one with the latest Intel chipset that you can afford...personally I would go for the most expensive one because I believe with mobos you shouldn't skimp...seems you've decided on the Ds3 mobo...so what about RAM? ..have you decided?

Are you sure that buying from seperate supplers and paying postage to all is the cheapest??...ebuyer have free postage on orders over £49 ex vat so best to cost it there and see if that's a better deal.
#23
Mate just get those 2. The DS3 uses the 965 chipset and those prices are spot on.
#24
you could get a mobo thats supports both ddr and ddr2 allowing you to update memory if required at a later date.2 sockets for each
#25
betelgeus
you could get a mobo thats supports both ddr and ddr2 allowing you to update memory if required at a later date.2 sockets for each


Great idea under normal circumstances but for the motherboard he is after I have to say you will not get a dual ram motherboard in this class mate. He is wanting something that can ramp this chip up to what it should be, and this is well over 3ghz, also with this having the 965 chipset it is going to be hard to find a dual ram board with that.

Normally you find that boards that cover both DDR and DDR2 and PCI-express and AGP are inferior in every other department to a dedicated board.

|But as I said mate, was worth a try as in most situations it is a great idea. Just not if your wanting the best out of a processor.

I myself bought an AsRock dual graphics board to seat an athlon X2 4400 in last year becasue I had an AGP 6800Ultra graphics card that I did not want to upgrade for a while and it worked perfect for me as I did not want any extra features, just what it said on the tin basically.

But as these new Core 2 Chips are basically £500 chips in a £100 price range you may as well spend about £100 on a board and go for it, raelly you are saving money by spending more money on a good board as you can turn your £100 chip into a £500 monster at the press of a key!!
#26
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At £81, this ATX motherboard represents a good value alternative to the ASUS P5W DH Deluxe. Based on Intel's P965 Express chipset it performs well, and you can run Intel's Core 2 Duo processors (Socket LGA775). It's also very overclockable, if you're brave enough to dabble. There's plenty of expansion with three PCI slots and three PCI-Express x1 slots, and there's High Definition eight-channel sound with optical and coaxial digital output. Note that it lacks FireWire, so you'd have to add it with a PCI card if you need it.

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#27
just ordered

E4300
gigabyte ds4
GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400C5 800MHz Value DDR2 Dual Channel Kit

£300

Thanx for all the help Guys

can anyone reccomend a good case and psu might keep my original 500w and buy a smaller on for my old pc as im taking out the graphics card using on board graPHICS (old pc)
#28
Case is 90% down to personal preference. A budget is really the only guideline we can go on.
#29
My budget for case and psu is £100
any reccomendation?
Needs to fit E4300
gigabyte ds4
GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400C5 800MHz Value DDR2 Dual Channel Kit
7800 gtx
1x 250gb sata
2x dvd rw
#30
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/99442/rb/25198678647

it's all a matter of taste but this looks good value

this one is nice
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/118268/rb/25198678647

but it comes without a PSU....anyway have a browse and see what takes your fancy...as beerman said a case is a personal choice that you have to live with.
#31
Me personally, I do not spend loads on a case. In fact I think the most I ever spent was £32.

I like the look of this one:
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/91831

It is only £33 and has amazing reviews. Then you put a large chunk of cash to a top quality PSU. This case also comes with a cheap PSU so you can remove it and keep it as a spare.

This PSU is one of the best you can get in this price range. It is actually the exact same PSU as the award winning type-r but without the funky looking lights and a toolbox. And Hiper say it's a 580w PSU (but they also state that this is the continuous power output, it is actually rated as a 630w.)

These have to be one of the best on the market and at this price it is a bargain.
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=25201770090&action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=109552

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