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I am looking for a bike to burn off a few pounds :oops: Current fave is the Specialized Hardrock for £300 Any thoughts :? Cheers :thumbsup: Read More
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banned1d, 2w agoPosted 1 decade, 2 weeks ago
I am looking for a bike to burn off a few pounds :oops:
Current fave is the Specialized Hardrock for £300
Any thoughts :?
Cheers :thumbsup:
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banned1d, 2w agoPosted 1 decade, 2 weeks ago
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#1
hellodave
I am looking for a bike to burn off a few pounds :oops:
Current fave is the Specialized Hardrock for £300
Any thoughts :?
Cheers :thumbsup:


Co-op instore near me (Locks Heath) Southampton have a dual suspension mountain bike with v-brakes for £49-99. Looks really good..
#2
As a long time Mountain Biker, I have to say, anything that costs £50.00 (brand new) is likely to fall to pieces in next to no time - bikes at that price aren't designed for anything other than pootling down the shops. The parts will be extremely cheap and won't take any abuse - might be ok for riding along flat tarmac, but otherwise don't bother as you won't enjoy the bike at all.

hellodave, you certainly won't be dissapointed with a Hardrock - Specialized design and build stunning bikes and even their lower price range bikes are nice to ride (and look fantastic!!).

I currently have a Specialized Stumpjumper FSR which I bought in May '06 and it's a dream to ride, so I whole heartedly recommend Specialized.

I assume you are looking at the Hardrock Sport (2007) for £299.99 which is a stunning bike for a beginner - you might want to stump up the extra for the Hardrock Sport Disc (£369.99) as disc brakes will give you much better stopping power and they don't get effected by water and mud like V-Brakes. You'll also have an easier time selling the bike at a later date if it has disc brakes, as most people tend to look for them nowadays.

Anyway, best of luck, and hope you enjoy whatever bike you choose!
#3
I agree with all of the above I have a Specialized Rockhopper Disc (after having owned a Trek) and I am extremely happy with it. The Specialized Hardrock is an excellent mtb at entry level has very good reviews from real MTbikers who really take it off road and "abuse" the bike. Having said that Trek bikes are also very good so I would also reccomend trying a couple of bikes at your local dealer because you will feel a difference from bike to bike.

With regards to bikes my advice is that is best to buy the best bike you can afford than the (lower spec) than the best bike for less money (and lower specs). And anyway down hill bikes (dual suspensions) are heavier than single suspension and unless you do serious downhill rides than you are paying for something you dont need
#4
It depends what you are looking to do with it. I bought the Subway 8 2006 yesterday as Halfords had 10% off all bikes (finished yesterday) so was £252. I will be riding to work and some touring so thought this was a good bike for that.
#5
Just found a couple of deals here if you dont mind not having the lastest model
http://www.devercycles.co.uk/dever-bikes-2005.asp?rnge=MBSPZHARD05/Specialized%20Hardrock%20Mountain%20Bikes

of if you are near london
http://www.gumtree.com/london/38/10619038.html

also a few on Ebays and remember you can check for the genuinity of the bike by asking the serial number (under the frame) then you can confirm this by phoning Specialized Uk they will tell you everything about the bike (size, where it was sold, the year...)

Last but not least check out this website lots of resources [url]www.bikemagic.co.uk[/url]
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How & Where to buy..[/SIZE]

Decide if you are buying a toy...
...because if you are buying a toy then go to a toy store. But a bicycle isn’t a toy, it is a vehicle which goes at speed on or next to the road. Doesn’t it then make sense to go to a specialist bike shop where they have the skills and knowledge to help you properly? These guys have been working with bikes for years so really know what they are about.
More detail please...

Find somewhere you like...
...because if you buy a bike from a shop you don’t like, then you might feel pressurised into buying something which isn’t right for you. Walk up to the counter and see how long it takes before you’re noticed. Is the salesperson friendly and helpful, or condescending and treating you like an idiot? And do they seem to know what they are talking about? (Yeah, I know, how do you tell?) Women: most bike shop staff are unfortunately still men, but that doesn’t mean that you should put up with them patronising you!
More detail please...

Decide how much you want to spend...
...because, it sounds obvious, but you should buy the best you can afford. In bikes, like in everything, there are no ridiculous bargains - you really do get what you pay for. If you pay more for a bike, expect it to be more durable, lighter, have more features, and be nicer to ride.

And decide which bike you need for the riding you plan to do...
...because buying the wrong bike for you means you are no better off, just out of pocket. Have a look at the Bike Styles section to get some ideas.

Don’t be fooled by technospeak...
...because, if you don’t understand what the salesperson is talking about, how will you decide if it’s worth spending your money on? It can be embarrassing to admit that you don’t know what they mean, but that’s their job - helping you. Have a look at the Bike Jargon Buster section for some help.

Buy a bike that’s the right size...
...as a bike that’s the wrong size will be uncomfortable and can be dangerous. If you’re buying for a child, don’t be tempted to get a bike that they will grow into - much better to get a bike that’s the right size for them and then when they get too big for it it will still be in pretty good shape so it will have a high resale value. Have a look at the Bike Sizing section for more info.

Good luck! :thumbsup:
#6
Apologies for slightly hi-jacking the post - but can anyone offer advice on the differences (for a beginner) between hydraulic disc brakes and standard disc brakes??

Have also been looking at the specialised hardrock sport, but unsure if i'd be better splashing out that wee bit extra for the hydraulic option?? Would be planning on taking the bike to dedicated cycle routes, like Glentress and the likes up in Scotland.
#7
Cable disc brakes (except the Avid Ball Bearing range) are all useless for MTB use.My experience is that your better off with decent V - brakes.Hydraulic is by far the best option,but if your on a budget these brakes are not the cheapest.

Regarding the Specialized Hardrock Sport.I bought my daughter one a couple of months back,to try and get her in to the sport (I have a much upgraded Specialized Stumpjumper FSR).To be brutally honest I am very surprised by quality of the Hardrock,considering it cost less than my wheels !!!.It is not the lightest MTB you will find,but seriously it rides extremely well for an entry level bike and you won't hurt it in a hurry.The best MTB you will get for £300 in my view.

Hope these comments help guys.:)
#8
pete_21
Cable disc brakes (except the Avid Ball Bearing range) are all useless for MTB use.My experience is that your better off with decent V - brakes.Hydraulic is by far the best option,but if your on a budget these brakes are not the cheapest.

Regarding the Specialized Hardrock Sport.I bought my daughter one a couple of months back,to try and get her in to the sport (I have a much upgraded Specialized Stumpjumper FSR).To be brutally honest I am very surprised by quality of the Hardrock,considering it cost less than my wheels !!!.It is not the lightest MTB you will find,but seriously it rides extremely well for an entry level bike and you won't hurt it in a hurry.The best MTB you will get for £300 in my view.

Hope these comments help guys.:)


Thanks Pete, your own, and others previous, coments have helped me, lets hope they've helped HelloDave the original poster. Pretty much sold me on the hardrock sport hyd disc. I'm now gonna thoroughly search the net, and local shops, for a good deal. Think the cheapest i've seen thus far is around £360, if i'm not mistaken. Hopefully will pick up a bargain!

If anyone can beat that please let me know :)
#9
apologies - i think the price i saw was £399, even worse!!
#10
Specialized Hardrock Sport range.If your after buying mail order these are very good.If you buy from them don't forget 5% quidco.

http://www.evanscycles.com/dept.jsp?dept_id=3013

Just make sure your getting the correct frame size.Also I think they charge £10 delivery on bikes under £500.
#12
Take a look around this forum - has loads of useful info and friendly members, and if you do a search you'll find various recommendations for bikes based on different budgets and requirements:

http://www.whatmtb.com/forum/default.asp
#13
Thats very cheap but remember Carrera are not the company they once were.They are now like Halfords own brand.I had one of their Subway bikes a few years ago and the build quality was not great on it.Components were all very cheap and nasty as well (tekro cable discs on it were a joke).Could not compare them to any Specialized model.But I suppose at that price your only going to get what you pay for ?.
#14
pete_21
Thats very cheap but remember Carrera are not the company they once were.They are now like Halfords own brand.I had one of their Subway bikes a few years ago and the build quality was not great on it.Components were all very cheap and nasty as well (tekro cable discs on it were a joke).Could not compare them to any Specialized model.But I suppose at that price your only going to get what you pay for ?.


i completely disagree. carrera have always been a brand exclusive to halfords. you cant really call it own brand as halfords dont make bikes. and tektro are the probably the only 'cheap' component on the bikes, and even then you will see tektro on almost all bikes at similar price point. Those disc brakes, if set up correctly, work pretty darn well.
i have only ever owned carrera, and i stand by em. i happily recommend them to people i know, and ive never had a reason to regret it.
#15
The point I was making was having owned BOTH makes of bike there was absolutely no comparison between them.Carrera have not made a decent MTB since the old LRS 1 in my opinion.I only used the subway for light road training for 3 months and sold it.Didnt ride anything like as good as a Specialized (or Giant,Trek,Scott etc.) and I would never buy another one.Broke it twice (only ever doing light road training) and Halfords were pretty useless for after sales service to be honest.Yes Tekro brakes are fitted to many entry level bikes and their V brakes are fine (Unless your going knee deep in sludge).However after a fast downhill on their cable discs my fingers used to bleed trying to get the thing to stop.The RST front fork fitted to the Hardrock is a very pleasant compromise at this price point.Not too much travel (nothing worse than the 'jelly' effect of a sloppy front fork),smooth,but just a bit on the heavy side.The entry level Shimano Acera gearset fitted to the Hardrock works well and components are cheap to replace when they wear out.The Suntour gears I had on the Carrera were very temperamental and I could never get them to index very well.Also the 18'' Medium frame (The same size as I ride on other makes) did not fit me very well,The cockpit (distance between the stem and the seatpost was very short for a bike with this size frame.Not arguing its not a good bike for £260 it may well be but for an extra £40 I would go for the Specialized.But thats just my opinion.
#16
My mate just got a Specialized Hardrock Sport HYD Disc from Dales in Glasgow.
http://www.dalescycles.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=SPECHRPROHYD07

Not had a look at it yet, but he seems happy with it, even though its just for basic riding along canals and paths.
My mate seems happy and this is after him owning a crazy amount of bikes over the years, his last bike was a Santa Cruz Heckler totally pimped out easily hitting a couple grand (the frame itself was over £1000).
He left it 2-3 years, but he will still know his stuff, and he seems to love this bike.

I'm buying a bike soon as well, but i'm splashing out another couple hundred for a bit better spec.
My old one is a jump-bike, but i'm going XC.
Had a Rockhopper for a few years, and that bike was the holy grail. Doubt il ever get a bike as good as it ever again, the frame took more punishment than a good few other people's frames could, specially the Aluminium ones.

£399 for the Hardrock, is very decent, and if u asked my mate he'd be all for it.
So not much more i can say, get it ;-)
#17
I know it's a hybrid rather than a mountain bike, but I just bought a Ridgeback Bullit and it is fantastic.
I've been riding bikes mainly on the road, but a bit of light trail as well for 30 years and this is the best bike I've ever had, not cheap but if you can stretch your budget I'd highly recommend a Ridgeback.
#18
I'd probably go second hand if you wanted a half decent bike for that cash.

an eight year old bike is better than a brand new 300 quid bike.
#19
Hello all sorry for hijacking this thread but I'm newbie in bike so this is probably the best place I can ask question.

I need a bike for a charity run (45-50 miles) and really clueless as to whether I should get a mountain bike or road bike. I came across a Specialized Hardrock Sport at ebay, around 2.5yrs old 27 gears 26" wheel asking for around 100-pound and I'm wondering if it's a good deal, since I do not wish to speend more than 100-pound for the bike.

Your advise is very much appreciated! :-D
#20
I'm no expert but I think you'd be better off with a road bike for that distance as mountain bikes are pretty heavy, especially the cheaper end of the market.;-)
#21
About the people saying about 2nd hand.
I'm just too wary of them. You never know if theres problems or hidden problems unless you strip the whole bike down which is fun.
People can knacker threads up on parts or on the frame, and thats fun if you need replacements, as well as checking for cracks etc.

You can buy from a middle age guy who rides cycle paths every weekend, or a twenty-something hammerin hell out of it and putting strain on the frame.
Little crack here or there and hit something hard and bad-times.
Seen it happen lol.

My sister has a Hardock about that old, very good bike. Think it was still steel or chromo, but its not thick and definitely not as heavy as the cheap and nasty bikes. My Rockhopper was some special chromoly mix and it was thinner tubing and surprisingly light. A lot the weights in the wheels, and at this price point the weight is going to be there anyway.
Remember the 2.5yr old Hardrock isnt the cheap end of the market. It was i'd say £250 at the cheapest, and it wasnt that long ago.
If it's the newer Aluminium Version, then its likely worth more. I'm not totally sure when they introduced the newer design.
Can we see the bid? (even pm i wont bid on it lol)

If its just a charity run and no need for speed get the Hardrock.
I'm not totally sure if i stole my sisters bike for my Glasgow-Edinbugh (50ish miles) bike run a few years back. Was that or the Rockhopper, and it was well fine. Neither are Aluminium but Specialized bikes arent that heavy.
Slap on some road tires and you'l be fine.
banned#22
Thanks for all the advice guys! Got let down by a couple of dealers. Ended up buying on line. (Wiggle) Giant Terrago 06 model. Very happy so far. Wiggle have been great with one problem I had. Did a 10 miler on Tuesday, really enjoying it :)

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