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Planning on moving my router 10m away from where it is just now. My current set up is virgin media hub 2ac + Asus rt-ac68u. Problem is i have 4 hard wire gadgets where my router is just now but I… Read More
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6m, 1w agoPosted 6 months, 1 week ago
Planning on moving my router 10m away from where it is just now.
My current set up is virgin media hub 2ac + Asus rt-ac68u.
Problem is i have 4 hard wire gadgets where my router is just now but I looking for better WiFi in the rest of the house .
If use one cable to take router to preferred zone then another cable back to original place and to network switch will I lose any Internet performance and what cables would I need. Thanks
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6m, 1w agoPosted 6 months, 1 week ago
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#1
How about ...
VM router > cable > 8 port switch (for gadgets) > cable > AC68U
#2
How about leave it where it is and use a wifi extender for the rest of the house
#3
Unless you need the extra throughput I'd let the virgin hub handling the routing and act as a switch and set the AC68U up as just an access point.
#4
ding
How about leave it where it is and use a wifi extender for the rest of the house


100% correct
#5
I'm with Endless Waves,.

The wifi on the superhub is awful as it seems you have found.
So I should assume you have your superhub in modem mode.

I have two Netgear routers plugged into my superhub set up as access points and it works fine.
You will need to put the superhub into router mode again, and when you link them together you connect between the lan ports.

There will be a few settings to change on the router so it would be best to google how to change a router into an access point.

Edited By: mrdmorris on Jan 07, 2017 12:20: Typo
#6
I have openbox that doesn't work to good straight from the hub. Problem is since I built son gaming pc it's all about the pings lol. I would hard wire to his room but can't get access.
#7
Just so I'm clear, is this your intended setup?

https://s24.postimg.org/uoerr9uat/net1.png

If so, you won't lose any performance for internet assuming your wifi clients are close to the AC68U. However if one of the wifi clients is the gaming PC you may find that ping times increase. In that case, if you can't run a direct wire, powerline adapters are a better option. I use a mix of pretty much everything in my setup depending on my need :)
#8
bertbert
Just so I'm clear, is this your intended setup?

https://s24.postimg.org/uoerr9uat/net1.png

If so, you won't lose any performance for internet assuming your wifi clients are close to the AC68U. However if one of the wifi clients is the gaming PC you may find that ping times increase. In that case, if you can't run a direct wire, powerline adapters are a better option. I use a mix of pretty much everything in my setup depending on my need :)


At moment I have virgin hub in modem mode, and using Asus rt-ac68u as router with 4 ethernet cables coming out of it. Just looking to Asus closer to center of house for son to get better WiFi for his pc gaming thanks
#9
EndlessWaves
Unless you need the extra throughput I'd let the virgin hub handling the routing and act as a switch and set the AC68U up as just an access point.


This is my setup.

I have 3 access points in my house all connected as access points with cat cables running to the superhub.
#10
Ok, I think I understand. You'll probably need a switch if you don't have one already (~£10). That way you only need to run a single cable to the AC68U.

https://s27.postimg.org/oj9zfch4z/net2.png

Other option is to use powerline adapters (say £25-50) to run straight to the gaming PC (I'm assuming it is a static desktop rather than laptop). Then you can leave the AC68U where it is.

https://s23.postimg.org/bcji3c3p7/net3.png

Either of those any use? I'd avoid using a wifi extender since you halve your bandwidth. They have their places but not if you're trying to maximise the performance for the gaming PC.
#11
The_IMF
EndlessWaves
Unless you need the extra throughput I'd let the virgin hub handling the routing and act as a switch and set the AC68U up as just an access point.


This is my setup.

I have 3 access points in my house all connected as access points with cat cables running to the superhub.


I think I have to go educate myself about access points and how to achieve this with asus rt-ac68u.
#12
bertbert
Ok, I think I understand. You'll probably need a switch if you don't have one already (~£10). That way you only need to run a single cable to the AC68U.

https://s27.postimg.org/oj9zfch4z/net2.png

Other option is to use powerline adapters (say £25-50) to run straight to the gaming PC (I'm assuming it is a static desktop rather than laptop). Then you can leave the AC68U where it is.

https://s23.postimg.org/bcji3c3p7/net3.png

Either of those any use? I'd avoid using a wifi extender since you halve your bandwidth. They have their places but not if you're trying to maximise the performance for the gaming PC.


Still need wired ethernet from Asus rt-ac68u direct to openbox to stop cliching caused when connected direct to virgin hub
#13
If you do want to do that, it's pretty simple. I have an AC68U. On the first page when you log on, you'll see a link for "Operation Mode" which will be "Wireless Router". Click on it and you'll be presented with the option to change it to "Access Point". You'll also need to change the Virgin Router to disable modem mode so it'll take over routing duties.

At that point you will also be able to use the LAN ports on the back of the Virgin hub rather than just the ones on the AC68U.
#14
easymoney

Still need wired ethernet from Asus rt-ac68u direct to openbox to stop cliching caused when connected direct to virgin hub

Not quite sure what you mean by "cliching"? Are you having compatibility issues with the Virgin hub and OpenBox?
#15
bertbert
easymoney

Still need wired ethernet from Asus rt-ac68u direct to openbox to stop cliching caused when connected direct to virgin hub

Not quite sure what you mean by "cliching"? Are you having compatibility issues with the Virgin hub and OpenBox?


That's exactly that ,was worse with hub 3,this was the reason for purchasing Asus rt-ac68u.
#16
bertbert
easymoney

Still need wired ethernet from Asus rt-ac68u direct to openbox to stop cliching caused when connected direct to virgin hub

Not quite sure what you mean by "cliching"? Are you having compatibility issues with the Virgin hub and OpenBox?


That's exactly that, was worse with hub 3, reason I purchased Asus rt-ac68u
#17
From googling, other people have it working direct into a superhub, but understand that life can be too short trying to work out why it's not working for you. Assuming you don't want to go back to having the superhub running the show, you'll need some sort of switch or another access point.

With the second diagram I sent (switch between the AC68U and the Hub), you will have traffic going up and down from the AC68U which isn't ideal but should still be a lot faster than any internet connection you'll have in the near future.

An alternative (aside from Powerline adapters) would be to leave things as they are and if you have a spare port on the AC68U, connect another access point to it 10m away.

If ping times are really important though, I'd steer away from using a wifi connection. You'll probably find that most of the time pings are fine, but wifi adapters like to renegotiate quite often and this leads to a killer ping spike. Some are worse than others, but they all do it.
#18
kingk123
ding
How about leave it where it is and use a wifi extender for the rest of the house


100% correct


Yep I'm also with this. You can normally pick the twin packs up for quite cheap
#19
batezy_1984
kingk123
ding
How about leave it where it is and use a wifi extender for the rest of the house


100% correct


Yep I'm also with this. You can normally pick the twin packs up for quite cheap


I've got these but in black. Never had a problem with them. I take it you aren't running over 500mbps? If not have a look at these

BT Broadband Extender Flex 600 Kit, Pass Through Powerline Kit https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B015E3MWSU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_zOpCybF6AYABK

£39.99 on Amazon.

Or you can buy two of these at £14.99 each if you aren't bothered about plugging a socket into it (for up to 300mbps)

NETGEAR EX2700 Mini 300 Mbps Wi-Fi Range Extender with External Antennas (Wi-Fi booster) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00NIUHAG6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_IPpCyb9S473F1

Edited By: batezy_1984 on Jan 07, 2017 14:29: .
#20
I think am going to move virgin hub and Asus rt-ac68u then take ethernet cable back to network switch and connect openbox and other gadgets that way,
Can anyone point me in right direction to obtain a cable to go from main inlet box on wall to virgin hub, needs to be about 10 m thanks
#21
You could replace the Asus router with a Netgear Orbi and use the satellite unit for wired connections. Alternatively you can look into other mesh products from Google, Aero and even Asus.
#22
easymoney
I think am going to move virgin hub and Asus rt-ac68u then take ethernet cable back to network switch and connect openbox and other gadgets that way,
Can anyone point me in right direction to obtain a cable to go from main inlet box on wall to virgin hub, needs to be about 10 m thanks


Have a look at f type satellite extension lead. I would look for a 100% copper one.
#24
Moving the Virgin hub might be awkward enough. No idea if Virgin will get shirty. But in answer to your question they use a type of RG6 cabling. Probably worth going for the better WD100 though. Here's a couple of sites for more info. Note that I'm not recommending these sites (as I've never used them), or indeed moving the box. You'll need connectors too.

http://www.aerialsat.com/customer/help-and-support/coaxial-cable/which-coaxial-cable-do-i-need.html

http://www.systemsat.co.uk/single-core-coaxial-cable/10m-webro-hd100-class-aa-lszh-satellite-tv-coaxial-cable.html

I still think with your use case, you should probably think about powerline adapters.

Edited By: bertbert on Jan 07, 2017 19:18
#25
bertbert
Moving the Virgin hub might be awkward enough. No idea if Virgin will get shirty. But in answer to your question they use a type of RG6 cabling. Probably worth going for the better WD100 though. Here's a couple of sites for more info. Note that I'm not recommending these sites (as I've never used them), or indeed moving the box. You'll need connectors too.

http://www.aerialsat.com/customer/help-and-support/coaxial-cable/which-coaxial-cable-do-i-need.html

http://www.systemsat.co.uk/single-core-coaxial-cable/10m-webro-hd100-class-aa-lszh-satellite-tv-coaxial-cable.html

I still think with your use case, you should probably think about powerline adapters.


So basically you can use satellite cable. I have a quarter of a roll somewhere, cheers
#26
easymoney
bertbert
Moving the Virgin hub might be awkward enough. No idea if Virgin will get shirty. But in answer to your question they use a type of RG6 cabling. Probably worth going for the better WD100 though. Here's a couple of sites for more info. Note that I'm not recommending these sites (as I've never used them), or indeed moving the box. You'll need connectors too.

http://www.aerialsat.com/customer/help-and-support/coaxial-cable/which-coaxial-cable-do-i-need.html

http://www.systemsat.co.uk/single-core-coaxial-cable/10m-webro-hd100-class-aa-lszh-satellite-tv-coaxial-cable.html

I still think with your use case, you should probably think about powerline adapters.


So basically you can use satellite cable. I have a quarter of a roll somewhere, cheers


The cable I have has got hyc100-cert. No. CAI vo12c on the side of cable
#27
easymoney
easymoney
bertbert
Moving the Virgin hub might be awkward enough. No idea if Virgin will get shirty. But in answer to your question they use a type of RG6 cabling. Probably worth going for the better WD100 though. Here's a couple of sites for more info. Note that I'm not recommending these sites (as I've never used them), or indeed moving the box. You'll need connectors too.http://www.aerialsat.com/customer/help-and-support/coaxial-cable/which-coaxial-cable-do-i-need.htmlhttp://www.systemsat.co.uk/single-core-coaxial-cable/10m-webro-hd100-class-aa-lszh-satellite-tv-coaxial-cable.html
I still think with your use case, you should probably think about powerline adapters.
So basically you can use satellite cable. I have a quarter of a roll somewhere, cheers
The cable I have has got hyc100-cert. No. CAI vo12c on the side of cable

Should be fine. I just used RGU6 cable and a couple of screw on f-type connectors on a 7 foot cable @ 100mbit.

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