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Hi all My 7 year old plasma has decided to have a lovely green line down the screen , so it's time for a new tv. Looking at spending £1k but could push it if needed. Could anyone point me in direc…
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3m, 5d agoPosted 3 months, 5 days ago
Hi all
My 7 year old plasma has decided to have a lovely green line down the screen , so it's time for a new tv.
Looking at spending £1k but could push it if needed.
Could anyone point me in direction of good models(especially with Black Friday looming)
Would love 4K oled but I know there too much .
Mainly use tv for watching movies through kodi and footy on sky
Any advice appreciated so I can go look at the TVs
Cheers
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3m, 5d agoPosted 3 months, 5 days ago
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#4
My old LG plasma went the same as yours also after seven years. I replaced it with a Samsung Ue55ks7000. Currys are selling it for a grand.
#6
radium
My old LG plasma went the same as yours also after seven years. I replaced it with a Samsung Ue55ks7000. Currys are selling it for a grand.



Cheers , yeah that one I just noted off currys site .also maybe Sony kd55xd8599 at £1k

Edited By: Sniffer77 on Nov 15, 2016 20:23: Bad typing
#7
http://www.hotukdeals.com/search?action=search&keywords=ks7000 just bought mine from RS with the 4k player



Edited By: vinsona85 on Nov 15, 2016 20:27
#8
Sniffer77
radium
My old LG plasma went the same as yours also after seven years. I replaced it with a Samsung Ue55ks7000. Currys are selling it for a grand.
Cheers , yeah that one I just noted off currys site .also maybe Sony kd55xd8599 at £1k

Not checked but likely the same price at Richer Sounds and will come with a 6 year warranty and much better customer service also John Lewis will price match and offer a 5 year warranty with probably the best customer service around.

Edited By: gazman090970 on Nov 15, 2016 20:29
#9
gazman090970
Sniffer77
radium
My old LG plasma went the same as yours also after seven years. I replaced it with a Samsung Ue55ks7000. Currys are selling it for a grand.
Cheers , yeah that one I just noted off currys site .also maybe Sony kd55xd8599 at £1k

Not checked but likely the same price at Richer Sounds and will come with a 6 year warranty and much better customer service also John Lewis will price match and offer a 5 year warranty with probably the best customer service around.


What's it like on fast moving scenes and footy?
Loved my plasma so am gutted
#10
Sniffer77
gazman090970
Sniffer77
radium
My old LG plasma went the same as yours also after seven years. I replaced it with a Samsung Ue55ks7000. Currys are selling it for a grand.
Cheers , yeah that one I just noted off currys site .also maybe Sony kd55xd8599 at £1k
Not checked but likely the same price at Richer Sounds and will come with a 6 year warranty and much better customer service also John Lewis will price match and offer a 5 year warranty with probably the best customer service around.
What's it like on fast moving scenes and footy?
Loved my plasma so am gutted

not got mine delivered yet - thursday/fri so will watch footy @ weekend - hopefully ok.

Edited By: vinsona85 on Nov 15, 2016 20:52
#11
Let me know what you think if that's ok mate
#13
Sniffer77
Let me know what you think if that's ok mate

will do - reply to me message on sat/sun then i remember
#15
Sniffer77
Thanks- I had seen that but isn't 4K the route to go?

Not for a 55" unless you sit pretty close. The 910v is a lot of TV for £1200-1300 and could be a strong contender for you, especially coming from a plasma and watching many movies.

mhance1
​how many bit is that?

That's not a distinction that makes a lot of difference. The difference between a 10 bit panel and an 8-bit panel (with dithering) is minimal. If you're concerned about getting the full HDR experience then the key areas are peak brightness (should be approaching or above 1000cd/m²) and the TV's local dimming ability. That is where models can fall a long way short. Samsung's KS7000/KS7500 are generally considered the cheapest models with something approaching a full HDR implementation (the curved K7500 is more expensive at the same size, but comes in smaller sizes).

The LG 668v has no local dimming ability at all and a peak brightness of 360cd/m² which is identical to any other non-HDR tv. Of course, when it costs £600 there's nothing wrong in not being able to match up to a £1000 TV and it seems like a good mainstream TV.
#16
EndlessWaves
Sniffer77
Thanks- I had seen that but isn't 4K the route to go?

Not for a 55" unless you sit pretty close. The 910v is a lot of TV for £1200-1300 and could be a strong contender for you, especially coming from a plasma and watching many movies.

mhance1
​how many bit is that?

That's not a distinction that makes a lot of difference. The difference between a 10 bit panel and an 8-bit panel (with dithering) is minimal. If you're concerned about getting the full HDR experience then the key areas are peak brightness (should be approaching or above 1000cd/m²) and the TV's local dimming ability. That is where models can fall a long way short. Samsung's KS7000/KS7500 are generally considered the cheapest models with something approaching a full HDR implementation (the curved K7500 is more expensive at the same size, but comes in smaller sizes).

The LG 668v has no local dimming ability at all and a peak brightness of 360cd/m² which is identical to any other non-HDR tv. Of course, when it costs £600 there's nothing wrong in not being able to match up to a £1000 TV and it seems like a good mainstream TV.


Thanks for the reply
Would you rate the oled 1080p better than the Sony I mentioned earlier ?
I'm currently sweet talking the mrs to see if I can get the 4K oled for 2k but I'm going to have to put a lot of work in for it .
That lg oled appears awesome
#17
Samsung 55ks7000 is probably the only 10 bit tv your gonna get for that money and has excellent reviews
#18
seanieb87
Samsung 55ks7000 is probably the only 10 bit tv your gonna get for that money and has excellent reviews

it's 8 bit with fake 10 bit
#19
wifi300usb
seanieb87
Samsung 55ks7000 is probably the only 10 bit tv your gonna get for that money and has excellent reviews
it's 8 bit with fake 10 bit
It's 10bit 100%
#20
wifi300usb
seanieb87
Samsung 55ks7000 is probably the only 10 bit tv your gonna get for that money and has excellent reviews
it's 8 bit with fake 10 bit

No it's definately not 8 bit i thought the same until i found out that the KS 7000 designation in the North America is indeed a 8 +2 panel but in Europe it is definately 10 bit this has confused things with people reading reviews and quoting specs for the Nort American version.Also i have not seen and indeed do not think it is possible for a 8 +2 panel to produce the luminescance required to atttain Premium UHD certification which the entire KS range has in the UK.
#21
gazman090970
wifi300usb
seanieb87
Samsung 55ks7000 is probably the only 10 bit tv your gonna get for that money and has excellent reviews
it's 8 bit with fake 10 bit
No it's definately not 8 bit i thought the same until i found out that the KS 7000 designation in the North America is indeed a 8 +2 panel but in Europe it is definately 10 bit this has confused things with people reading reviews and quoting specs for the Nort American version.Also i have not seen and indeed do not think it is possible for a 8 +2 panel to produce the luminescance required to atttain Premium UHD certification which the entire KS range has in the UK.

Yep all this is correct. It's capable of producing 1billion colours where as most 8 bits produce around 16million

I'm hoping for a little more discount around black Friday
#22
gazman090970
wifi300usb
seanieb87
Samsung 55ks7000 is probably the only 10 bit tv your gonna get for that money and has excellent reviews
it's 8 bit with fake 10 bit
No it's definately not 8 bit i thought the same until i found out that the KS 7000 designation in the North America is indeed a 8 +2 panel but in Europe it is definately 10 bit this has confused things with people reading reviews and quoting specs for the Nort American version.Also i have not seen and indeed do not think it is possible for a 8 +2 panel to produce the luminescance required to atttain Premium UHD certification which the entire KS range has in the UK.

the UHD premium badge doesn't require a 10 bit PANEL, it just requires a TV that is capable of processing a 10 bit colour signal using 8 + 2 FRC or a true 10 bit panel and processing. Interesting point you make about different specs do you have some proof?

thanks
#23
wifi300usb
gazman090970
wifi300usb
seanieb87
Samsung 55ks7000 is probably the only 10 bit tv your gonna get for that money and has excellent reviews
it's 8 bit with fake 10 bit
No it's definately not 8 bit i thought the same until i found out that the KS 7000 designation in the North America is indeed a 8 +2 panel but in Europe it is definately 10 bit this has confused things with people reading reviews and quoting specs for the Nort American version.Also i have not seen and indeed do not think it is possible for a 8 +2 panel to produce the luminescance required to atttain Premium UHD certification which the entire KS range has in the UK.
the UHD premium badge doesn't require a 10 bit PANEL, it just requires a TV that is capable of processing a 10 bit colour signal using 8 + 2 FRC or a true 10 bit panel and processing. Interesting point you make about different specs do you have some proof?
thanks

If you want proof it can be found at avforums,I know about the possible backdoor regarding requirements for Premium UHD certification and you are absolutely correct about the 10 bit signal being a possible back door but I have not seen a 8 + 2 panel come even close to the minimum luminescence required(1000 candela m2) and with that at least for now the back door gets closed to 8 + 2 panels.
#24
Go for 65", you will never look back:)
#25
Sandy1012
Go for 65", you will never look back:)

His wall might only be 64".
#26
Haha I showed the Mrs a 65" in currys earlier , I just had a stare so I'm guessing it's a no no . Annoyingly there were no oled TVs look at .
I looked at the Samsung ks7000 and Sony xd8599 with the Samsung so much brighter. Sadly no live feeds for me to try though
#27
gazman090970
wifi300usb
seanieb87
Samsung 55ks7000 is probably the only 10 bit tv your gonna get for that money and has excellent reviews
it's 8 bit with fake 10 bit
No it's definately not 8 bit i thought the same until i found out that the KS 7000 designation in the North America is indeed a 8 +2 panel but in Europe it is definately 10 bit this has confused things with people reading reviews and quoting specs for the Nort American version.Also i have not seen and indeed do not think it is possible for a 8 +2 panel to produce the luminescance required to atttain Premium UHD certification which the entire KS range has in the UK.

As far as I'm aware there is no KS7000 in North America, only the KU7000 and KS8000. The Samsung US website has no such model listed.

Panel bit depth has no affect on luminescence or maximum colour space. Those are both properties of the backlight.

Sniffer77
Haha I showed the Mrs a 65" in currys earlier , I just had a stare so I'm guessing it's a no no . Annoyingly there were no oled TVs look at .
I looked at the Samsung ks7000 and Sony xd8599 with the Samsung so much brighter. Sadly no live feeds for me to try though

It shouldn't have been that much brighter outside HDR content, The sony's brightness is around 420cd/m² while the Samsing is around 500cd/m². Both of those are brighter than average so it's not an area I'd be particularly concerned about. Did you check the brightness settings on the TV to see if they were both at maximum?

The sony doesn't support any local dimming so it's not great as an HDR screen, but it is IPS so viewing angles will be better.

Have you checked to see which smart platforms support Kodi?
#28
EndlessWaves
gazman090970
wifi300usb
seanieb87
Samsung 55ks7000 is probably the only 10 bit tv your gonna get for that money and has excellent reviews
it's 8 bit with fake 10 bit
No it's definately not 8 bit i thought the same until i found out that the KS 7000 designation in the North America is indeed a 8 +2 panel but in Europe it is definately 10 bit this has confused things with people reading reviews and quoting specs for the Nort American version.Also i have not seen and indeed do not think it is possible for a 8 +2 panel to produce the luminescance required to atttain Premium UHD certification which the entire KS range has in the UK.

As far as I'm aware there is no KS7000 in North America, only the KU7000 and KS8000. The Samsung US website has no such model listed.

Panel bit depth has no affect on luminescence or maximum colour space. Those are both properties of the backlight.

Sniffer77
Haha I showed the Mrs a 65" in currys earlier , I just had a stare so I'm guessing it's a no no . Annoyingly there were no oled TVs look at .
I looked at the Samsung ks7000 and Sony xd8599 with the Samsung so much brighter. Sadly no live feeds for me to try though

It shouldn't have been that much brighter outside HDR content, The sony's brightness is around 420cd/m² while the Samsing is around 500cd/m². Both of those are brighter than average so it's not an area I'd be particularly concerned about. Did you check the brightness settings on the TV to see if they were both at maximum?

The sony doesn't support any local dimming so it's not great as an HDR screen, but it is IPS so viewing angles will be better.

Have you checked to see which smart platforms support Kodi?


Hi
Yes both panels where at max brightness, I'm off to John Lewis tomorrow as didn't get much time today as my baby started kicking off.
Not sure what you mean re support kodi? I've a nuc that I use for kodi , so is it something I need to be aware of?
Thanks
#29
Sniffer77
EndlessWaves
gazman090970
wifi300usb
seanieb87
Samsung 55ks7000 is probably the only 10 bit tv your gonna get for that money and has excellent reviews
it's 8 bit with fake 10 bit
No it's definately not 8 bit i thought the same until i found out that the KS 7000 designation in the North America is indeed a 8 +2 panel but in Europe it is definately 10 bit this has confused things with people reading reviews and quoting specs for the Nort American version.Also i have not seen and indeed do not think it is possible for a 8 +2 panel to produce the luminescance required to atttain Premium UHD certification which the entire KS range has in the UK.
As far as I'm aware there is no KS7000 in North America, only the KU7000 and KS8000. The Samsung US website has no such model listed.
Panel bit depth has no affect on luminescence or maximum colour space. Those are both properties of the backlight.
Sniffer77
Haha I showed the Mrs a 65" in currys earlier , I just had a stare so I'm guessing it's a no no . Annoyingly there were no oled TVs look at .
I looked at the Samsung ks7000 and Sony xd8599 with the Samsung so much brighter. Sadly no live feeds for me to try though
It shouldn't have been that much brighter outside HDR content, The sony's brightness is around 420cd/m² while the Samsing is around 500cd/m². Both of those are brighter than average so it's not an area I'd be particularly concerned about. Did you check the brightness settings on the TV to see if they were both at maximum?
The sony doesn't support any local dimming so it's not great as an HDR screen, but it is IPS so viewing angles will be better.
Have you checked to see which smart platforms support Kodi?
Hi
Yes both panels where at max brightness, I'm off to John Lewis tomorrow as didn't get much time today as my baby started kicking off.
Not sure what you mean re support kodi? I've a nuc that I use for kodi , so is it something I need to be aware of?
Thanks

I just thought you might be planning to install it onto the TV instead of using a separate box.
#30
Ffs went to John Lewis and now I'm more confused . Was far from blown away by the lg oled, standard def pic was nowhere near as good as my plasma . Then the Sony picture looked a bit dull and the Samsung didn't blow me away either grrrrr I am a fussy sod though
#31
Trusted reviews just gave ks7000 tv of the year
#32
vinsona85
Trusted reviews just gave ks7000 tv of the year


Yeah it was ok. Only think I don't like is the separate hdmi connect box . My tv is currently wall mounted with hdmi cables sunk in the wall. Sky etc sit in cabinet other side of room to tv.
My other concern is I run everything through my home cinema amp. So in effect it would be sky/nuc box for kodi. Into amp, then into the connect box then into tv. Seems too many steps for picture quality loss?
Who would have thought buying a tv would be so stressful
#33
Sniffer77
vinsona85
Trusted reviews just gave ks7000 tv of the year
Yeah it was ok. Only think I don't like is the separate hdmi connect box . My tv is currently wall mounted with hdmi cables sunk in the wall. Sky etc sit in cabinet other side of room to tv.
My other concern is I run everything through my home cinema amp. So in effect it would be sky/nuc box for kodi. Into amp, then into the connect box then into tv. Seems too many steps for picture quality loss?
Who would have thought buying a tv would be so stressful

Ha. Just received mine and yeh I can see why this would be an issue. Not sure why they didn't just include one arc hdmi input in the back of the tv! That's all I need as like you I'm using a receiver with same inputs as you -sky, kodi, Xbox etc. Bit of a pain having to hide the connect box aswell now.
#34
Sniffer77
Let me know what you think if that's ok mate

Just watching the Brighton game, I see no major stuttering issue with the ball, ok it's not perfect but when the ballls traveling at 30/40 mph I can't see any tv being able to handle the ball moving so fast. Watched YouTube with no stuttering and just watched top gear in 4k and picture was amazing and didn't notice any considerable stuttering. Was slight stuttering when they did the fly over with the trees but not enough to complain about it like some reviews you have seen.
#35
Cheers for reply . Is yours wall mounted too? They said in shop to Velcro to back of the tv. Not keen on that idea but would seem only option. Very strange design.
What's it like panning quick , minimal stutter? Think I've been spoilt with plasma all these years as no stutter, worth the extra electric bills in my eyes

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