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9y, 2m agoPosted 9 years, 2 months ago
Hi can someone help me out - my parents have got a new dell with vista on it, we're looking for which version of office is required for vista for a good deal. Also, they are in education if that means getting it cheaper....

Thanks in advance....

ps have open office which is ok but there are a few annoying little things that are causing problems...
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9y, 2m agoPosted 9 years, 2 months ago
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#2
open office is free and compatible with office http://www.openoffice.org/
#3
shanecr
open office is free and compatible with office http://www.openoffice.org/


it has annoying little differences from office, word in particular is the application I use most and I have come across them alot so would rather buy the genuine product
#4
I got mine from university for £45 just go into your're colege/university and ask most will supply it at a discounted rate
#5
rickpee
it has annoying little differences from office, word in particular is the application I use most and I have come across them alot so would rather buy the genuine product


If "annoying little differences" bother you then steer well clear of Microsoft Office 2007, the interface is completely different to previous versions. Leaving Open Office in the odd position of being more like Microsoft Office (the old ones that people are used too) than Microsoft Office (2007). :giggle:

You can pick up the Education version of Office 2003 here: http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/56669

Just out of interest what exactly is it that bothers you about Open Office? £100+ seems awfully steep for just "little diferences".
#6
well its more my parents than me... but things like editing layouts and margins, last night I had an issue with just trying to write outside some text contained within a border, types of borders available are rubbish- no variation on simple lines... etc

its interesting to know that the new version is different again, thanks for that. Will old versions of office work on vista ok?
#7
megalomaniac
If "annoying little differences" bother you then steer clear of Microsoft Office 2007, the interface is completely different to previous versions. Leaving Open Office in the odd position of being more like Microsoft Office (the old ones that people are used too) than Microsoft Office (2007). :giggle:

You can pick up the Education version of Office 2003 here: http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/56669

Just out of interest what exactly is it that bothers you about Open Office? £100+ seems awfully steep for just "little diferences".


To be fair, if you're opening up and saving templates (by which i don't even mean template files, just simple xls and doc files) from Office then OO doesn't interpret them correctly for various reasons notably formatting.

We have the same issue here at work with Excel and the OO equivalent. As an example some pretty simple cell to cell sums fail. I'm sure it could be worked around but quite frankly no one has the time, energy or inclination.

Working from scratch or building around OO is fine; integrating it with Office apps and files? Naah...no doubt it's Office that does things it's own way but that is neither here nor there to end result.

Some other MS info here on purchasing/getting for free for education staff. Got a feeling that it will work with Office 2003 too cos of the licensing that's used. It's a long shot to be honest.
#8
well i think I have office xp pro lying around somewhere... just assumed there'd be compatibility issues but i can give it a try rather than forkin out £100 for a new version that is dissimilar from the previous
#9
rickpee
well its more my parents than me... but things like editing layouts and margins, last night I had an issue with just trying to write outside some text contained within a border, types of borders available are rubbish- no variation on simple lines... etc

its interesting to know that the new version is different again, thanks for that. Will old versions of office work on vista ok?


Yeah 2003 should work fine on Vista, I'm not sure about older versions though but don't see why not. I'd suggest trying out any older versions you have and/or having a play with 2007 before buying anything, you may like it. Some people do, but I find most think it's a change for the worse.

For any issues you have with Open Office it's always worth making sure you have the latest version (2.2.1 at the time of writing) and the support site can be very useful: http://support.openoffice.org/index.html. I've yet to find anything in Writer that isn't the same as or better then Word particularly given the free extensions etc. availible, although with Calc I do sometimes miss Excel's Analysis ToolPak. Plus the Open Office document format is an internationally ratified (ISO/IEC) standard, something which Microsoft are going to have to play ball with sooner or later.

pingusan
To be fair, if you're opening up and saving templates (by which i don't even mean template files, just simple xls and doc files) from Office then OO doesn't interpret them correctly for various reasons notably formatting.

We have the same issue here at work with Excel and the OO equivalent. As an example some pretty simple cell to cell sums fail. I'm sure it could be worked around but quite frankly no one has the time, energy or inclination.

Working from scratch or building around OO is fine; integrating it with Office apps and files? Naah...no doubt it's Office that does things it's own way but that is neither here nor there to end result.


You're right Open Office doesn't read Office documents as well as it should/could, but it's getting better and is largly due to Microsoft being so secretive about their file formats. Although that's not quite the same now as in many cases Office 2007 is worse for opening old Office documents than Open Office and you may require a separate download of the 'Compatibility Pack', which is still in Beta testing, for a reasonable level of compatability between versions, Google 'Office 2007 backwards compatibility' or similar if you have time for some reading.
#10
megalomaniac

You're right Open Office doesn't read Office documents as well as it should, but it's getting better. Although that's not quite so true now as in many cases Office 2007 is worse for opening old Office documents than Open Office and you may require a separate download of the 'Compatibility Pack', which is still in Beta testing, for a reasonable level of compatability between versions, Google 'Office 2007 backwards compatibility' if you have time for some reading.


Ha ha, gotta love MS! I will take a look at that stuff later :thumbsup:

I like OO for my own use and while i appreciate that a company has to make profit, the standard MS prices beggar belief :o

I'm not surprised at the recent (low) costs of 2007...they're gonna have a hell of a time persuading companies the change over from 2003 (97, whatever) is worth it and unless it's seamless it wouldn't surprise me to see some organisations just go for OO instead.
#11
cheers for the suggestions there people, im defo gonna give my old version a whirl before any others... much appreciated
#12
will office 2003 not work with vista?
#13
rickpee
Hi can someone help me out - my parents have got a new dell with vista on it, we're looking for which version of office is required for vista for a good deal. Also, they are in education if that means getting it cheaper....

Thanks in advance....

ps have open office which is ok but there are a few annoying little things that are causing problems...



If your parents are studying at university, try this... http://www.theultimatesteal.co.uk/

Also, I've used Office XP and 2003 with Vista and all seemed to be OK. I seem to remember I've used Word 2000 and Office 97 on there too.

Cheers,
Josh
#14
bob_nugget
If your parents are studying at university, try this... http://www.theultimatesteal.co.uk/

Also, I've used Office XP and 2003 with Vista and all seemed to be OK. I seem to remember I've used Word 2000 and Office 97 on there too.

Cheers,
Josh


thanks for that josh, i will give installing an older version a go tonight, much appreciated
banned#15
Always worth asking the firm you work for. If you use your PC at home for work, larger firms tend to have an open licence with Microsoft, allowing the full version of Office to be installed on any PC that they warrrant. Its a long shot as you need to prove to your friendly IT Manager (Is there such a thing) that you need use of the program at home.

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