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Is it OK to buy a diesel car?

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I'm looking to buy a newer car in the near future. Its come down to either a Renault Scenic or a Peugeot 2008 no older than 2013. I can save a lot of cash by buying a diesel over the petrol alte… Read More
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2w, 5d agoPosted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
I'm looking to buy a newer car in the near future.

Its come down to either a Renault Scenic or a Peugeot 2008 no older than 2013.

I can save a lot of cash by buying a diesel over the petrol alternative.

I'm wary of buying a diesel with all the stuff in the news about it lately but I've also read that any diesel made after 2007 are lower polluting that the older engines.

I don't drive into London or any other major cities or abroad so extra costs there don't matter. It mainly from the Midlands to the seaside 6 times a year and the odd weekend to am amusement park.

Any thoughts you have would be appreciated.

Thanks
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2w, 5d agoPosted 2 weeks, 5 days ago
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#1
We are changing our diesel car this year and getting another diesel one. Newer diesel engines are far cleaner than older ones. Many come with Ad Blue which break down the pollutants.

We are choosing one based on fuel cost. My family live on the other side of the country. In the petrol car, before the diesel one, we use to fill up before we left and then filled up when we arrived. It would need around £40 in fuel. In the diesel car it is normally around £25 it needs when we arrive and that is at a higher pump price than when we had a petrol car.

As for the environmental concerns. With all the lorries and buses belching our fumes. Taken into account China and third world countries. You getting a petrol car rather than diesel would be much like trying to empty a bath with a thimble while the taps are on full blast. Get the best car for you, as you aren't going to save the world yourself.


Edited By: Guest991145 on May 08, 2017 13:49
#2
take into the consideration the price of ad blue. it makes it more expensive to run
#3
Personally wouldnt touch a scenic or the pug. Those vehicles at that age fall to bits mate
#4
I have a diesel Skoda and am waiting on the Govts new diesel penalties come autumn before replacing. Hopefully they wont be too bad but I dont want to risk buying another diesel only to be stung by a hefty penalty.
#5
I have had Renaults for years and have never had any problems.

Have got a diesel scenic at the moment and happy with it.

It's a 2011, I'm on 71k and it's only ever been wear and tear (tyres/brakes) plus cam belt change. Passed its 3 mots with no advisories so far.

It gets serviced every year, I have always serviced my cars yearly. The only reason I got a scenic was to transport my dog but I quite like it. Comfy to drive and pretty economical. I won't be parting with it for a while.

Edited By: takethatfan1978 on May 08, 2017 14:41
#6
Agree buy Japanese and you will be happy. Do consider Honda CR-V, lovely/comfortable and reliable!!!

123batman321
Personally wouldnt touch a scenic or the pug. Those vehicles at that age fall to bits mate


Edited By: kmirza on May 08, 2017 14:52
#7
The AA go to more Renaults than any other car in break downs
#8
How many miles do you do each year?
#9
jimjimjeroo
take into the consideration the price of ad blue. it makes it more expensive to run


Not seen a car on the road that runs ad blue yet. Which ones do?? If they are like lorries, then they wont use much anyway.
#10
Rich069
jimjimjeroo
take into the consideration the price of ad blue. it makes it more expensive to run
Not seen a car on the road that runs ad blue yet. Which ones do?? If they are like lorries, then they wont use much anyway.

Newest VAG, BMW cars etc have them. Think Most Euro 6 diesels have it or at least will do in the near future.

I read VAG think most cars use 1.5L of the stuff for every 650-ish miles and a tank of Ad blue is around 10L+. Think they'll try and get it so a tank of Ad blue will do 10000 miles so can be coincided with a service

Edited By: winifer on May 08, 2017 15:28
#11
Depends how many miles you do and where you do them, Emission control systems on them are the main problems with diesels these days. Dpf's clog up, egr's clog up, The more technical they become the more problematic they are.

Ad blue systems have improved things a little but a dpf is a dpf and if you're not regenerating the dpf enough it will clog up and become a very expensive repair.
#12
Rich069
jimjimjeroo
take into the consideration the price of ad blue. it makes it more expensive to run
Not seen a car on the road that runs ad blue yet. Which ones do?? If they are like lorries, then they wont use much anyway.
My Range Rover does, filled it up several times (dealer does it free of charge for me)

OP: Nothing has been officially announced yet - and the government is well aware of the vast numbers of diesels on the road so it is hugely unlikely anything drastic will happen for several years.
Petrols are just too thirsty to run for me so will be sticking to diesels for the forseeable future :)
#13
Thanks for all the answers guys. Im gonna hold out for till the end of the year to see if the government make any decisions about it.
#14
I think the dpf being fitted is a good reason not to buy a diesel unless you spend some time on the motorway. Dpf killed diesels i feel. Very costly to fix to
#15
jimjimjeroo
take into the consideration the price of ad blue. it makes it more expensive to run

£9.99/10 litres, but can be had for half that when shopping around/stocking up.

Shouldn't need anymore than 30/40 litres per year, assuming say 10k miles.
#16
wayners
I think the dpf being fitted is a good reason not to buy a diesel unless you spend some time on the motorway. Dpf killed diesels i feel. Very costly to fix to
^^^ counldnt have agreeded more
#17
I'd diesel cars were banned tomorrow the government's targets for co2 emissions would be crashed. Although they do create more nox, they create far less co2 emissions. Chairman May has said that they will respect that previous governments promoted diesel cars. However, if you live in a city that is congested consider that they may impose a tax on diesels entering the area in the future to encourage you to use alternative transport. I don't think i would buy a new diesel car now mind but wouldn't hesitate one of the age you are looking at.
#18
kmirza
Agree buy Japanese and you will be happy. Do consider Honda CR-V, lovely/comfortable and reliable!!!
123batman321
Personally wouldnt touch a scenic or the pug. Those vehicles at that age fall to bits mate

Honda CR-V would that not be the Japanese car based upon the platform that was designed and developed in North America and then assembled in Swindon for the Europe market. I'm afraid in this day and age nothing is as simple as it used to be. Example being the most American Car you can buy these days is a Toyota Camry or a Honda Civic (built in different plant than the Europe models but still platform was designed in North America), or going down the lines of Germans with build quality when all the BMW X-series are assembled in Carolina.
But then again my last three cars where Italian.

Edited By: cecilmcroberts on May 09, 2017 00:47
#19
Tomofife
I'd diesel cars were banned tomorrow the government's targets for co2 emissions would be crashed. Although they do create more nox, they create far less co2 emissions. Chairman May has said that they will respect that previous governments promoted diesel cars. However, if you live in a city that is congested consider that they may impose a tax on diesels entering the area in the future to encourage you to use alternative transport. I don't think i would buy a new diesel car now mind but wouldn't hesitate one of the age you are looking at.

Not going to affect new (Euro 6) diesels. To be fair, you're safer bet is buying a brand new diesel than an older one.
#20
wayners
I think the dpf being fitted is a good reason not to buy a diesel unless you spend some time on the motorway. Dpf killed diesels i feel. Very costly to fix to

Had several diesels and not one had a DPF issue, however ive always said that if one ever did have a DPF issue, the DPF wont be replaced unless the EU/Government contributes to the cost of it.
Personally, my diesels have been much cheaper to run than the equivalent petrols (it may be just ive been lucky with Diesels, or may be because I know how to look after them and use them)
#21
118luke
wayners
I think the dpf being fitted is a good reason not to buy a diesel unless you spend some time on the motorway. Dpf killed diesels i feel. Very costly to fix to

Had several diesels and not one had a DPF issue, however ive always said that if one ever did have a DPF issue, the DPF wont be replaced unless the EU/Government contributes to the cost of it.
Personally, my diesels have been much cheaper to run than the equivalent petrols (it may be just ive been lucky with Diesels, or may be because I know how to look after them and use them)


My mate bought a re map software off ebay. Loaded on cars computer. Took dpf off and punched hole through it with bars and refitted. All sorted. Car goes better and passed mot fine. The new software he used fools the mot emissions test. He told me this a year or two before it made the news that the manufacturers were doing it already. Also companies around that will do it for you I heard if anyone is interested. It's all mad

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