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Opinions on which laptop is best please?

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Just wondered which of these laptops people think is the best buy, they are roughly the same price and have largely the same specs so really it's down to which one looks nicer and I can't decide. Just…
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2m, 3w agoPosted 2 months, 3 weeks ago
Just wondered which of these laptops people think is the best buy, they are roughly the same price and have largely the same specs so really it's down to which one looks nicer and I can't decide. Just ordered the HP but think I may have made the wrong decision so tempted to cancel and order the Asus. Opinions please.

http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=W8Y31EA&opt=ABU&sel=NTB

https://www.asus.com/UK/Notebooks/ASUS-ZenBook-Flip-UX360UA/
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2m, 3w agoPosted 2 months, 3 weeks ago
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The SSD probably would make a difference because the speeds of these new nvme SSDs are up to several times higher than standard SSDs. They can load so quickly things are limited by the processor rather than the storage.

One downside of the higher resolution is not all applications scale well and sometimes things can look blocky. However when it's properly supported it does look amazing. The increased battery drain doesn't just come from the screen but the additional load put on the system rendering at a much high resolution.

Another thing to think about might be the warranty support. HP are reasonable but I have heard many reports of Asus being awful.

Finally there is quite a lot of bloatware on HP models but it's fairly simple to uninstall it so that shouldn't be a problem.

If that's the type of machine you want I don't think you'll go wrong with either to be honest, but I would say the HP probably edges out as the winner. The speakers will probably be better too.

In saying this I think they are making the HP with a 7th gen cpu now so make sure to check that out before you buy.

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The Asus has a much higher resolution screen, it's 3k resolution vs the 1080p on the HP model, however the HP has a much faster SSD.

With the lower resolution screen and faster SSD the HP will feel more responsive and might give slightly better battery life.
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johnfordeals
The Asus has a much higher resolution screen, it's 3k resolution vs the 1080p on the HP model, however the HP has a much faster SSD.
With the lower resolution screen and faster SSD the HP will feel more responsive and might give slightly better battery life.
That's what I mean, there are pros and cons of each which just makes it harder, a higher resolution is great but it would impact on the battery life and make everything on screen smaller and is probably not noticeable on a screen this size. On the other hand the HP has faster storage but probably not noticeable in real world usage, but is considerably heavier and thicker than the Asus. This is why I think the decision largely comes down to looks, and I really don't know which one I prefer the look of, what are your thoughts #firstworldproblems

Edited By: chris75319 on Nov 28, 2016 12:49
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The SSD probably would make a difference because the speeds of these new nvme SSDs are up to several times higher than standard SSDs. They can load so quickly things are limited by the processor rather than the storage.

One downside of the higher resolution is not all applications scale well and sometimes things can look blocky. However when it's properly supported it does look amazing. The increased battery drain doesn't just come from the screen but the additional load put on the system rendering at a much high resolution.

Another thing to think about might be the warranty support. HP are reasonable but I have heard many reports of Asus being awful.

Finally there is quite a lot of bloatware on HP models but it's fairly simple to uninstall it so that shouldn't be a problem.

If that's the type of machine you want I don't think you'll go wrong with either to be honest, but I would say the HP probably edges out as the winner. The speakers will probably be better too.

In saying this I think they are making the HP with a 7th gen cpu now so make sure to check that out before you buy.
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johnfordeals
The SSD probably would make a difference because the speeds of these new nvme SSDs are up to several times higher than standard SSDs. They can load so quickly things are limited by the processor rather than the storage.
One downside of the higher resolution is not all applications scale well and sometimes things can look blocky. However when it's properly supported it does look amazing. The increased battery drain doesn't just come from the screen but the additional load put on the system rendering at a much high resolution.
Another thing to think about might be the warranty support. HP are reasonable but I have heard many reports of Asus being awful.
Finally there is quite a lot of bloatware on HP models but it's fairly simple to uninstall it so that shouldn't be a problem.
If that's the type of machine you want I don't think you'll go wrong with either to be honest, but I would say the HP probably edges out as the winner. The speakers will probably be better too.
In saying this I think they are making the HP with a 7th gen cpu now so make sure to check that out before you buy.
Thanks for the detailed response, much appreciated, I have seen reviews of the new spectre x360 and it looks fantastic, although it's not available to buy in the UK at the moment and I've only really ordered now as there is 15% off for the black Friday weekend which obviously wouldn't apply when the new model is available so have ordered the skylake version. As far as I'm aware, there's not much of an improvement from skylake to kaby lake, or am I wrong?
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chris75319
johnfordeals
The Asus has a much higher resolution screen, it's 3k resolution vs the 1080p on the HP model, however the HP has a much faster SSD.
With the lower resolution screen and faster SSD the HP will feel more responsive and might give slightly better battery life.
That's what I mean, there are pros and cons of each which just makes it harder, a higher resolution is great but it would impact on the battery life and make everything on screen smaller

Actually the optimal setting is to use a screen at either 1x or 2x sizing, so for maximum sharpness the HP would be 1920x1080 and the Asus 1600x900 equivalent so the Asus would have larger on screen elements.

There's going to be no perceptible difference between different SSD speeds in everyday use. The vast majority of applications are bottlenecked elsewhere with any SSD.

The HP does seem to get more out of it's battery though.

Kaby Lake adds lower power HEVC 10-bit and VP9 decoding and much more powerful integrated graphics. If either of those are vital it may be worth waiting for but otherwise it's not that different.

Edited By: EndlessWaves on Nov 28, 2016 16:44

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