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I would really appreciate help please. I'm looking to upgrade my son's PC. Read More
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banned2y, 6m agoPosted 2 years, 6 months ago
I would really appreciate help please.

I'm looking to upgrade my son's PC.
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banned2y, 6m agoPosted 2 years, 6 months ago
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#1
You've not given much to go on. What advice do you need?
banned#2
At the moment he has MSI B75MA-P45 mobo together with Intel Core i3-3220 3300GHz CPU

I am considering getting him Asus Intel Z97 Gamer Bundle (Includes Z97-K, Intel Core i5-4690K & 8GB Vengeance Pro Black Memory) bundle, which after cashback is £299.99

I can make use of his existing RAM/MOBO/CPU

I trust I need to upgrade XFX ProSeries 450W Core Edition Power Supply - 80 PLUS Bronze Certified

Just looking for ideas!

Is the bundle good value, or could I find a smarter combo.


I need a PC, and son is looking to play Elite Dangerous.
banned#3
ZaphodBeeblebrox
You've not given much to go on. What advice do you need?


Sorry mate, but I think it's not possible to post links in first post, hence the sparse info there.
#4
Nothing wrong with the bundle but you already have a perfectly capable Motherboard and Memory, why not just upgrade the CPU to something like a i5-3550 and a new GPU? The Power Supply is probably sufficent depending on the GPU and how many hard drives you have etc.
#5
the build he has is fine get an i7 for it and another gpu and an ssd upgrade ;)
#6
What Zaphod said...

You don't mention GPU, he has one now right? Recent GPUs take a lot less wattage than older stuff like Nvidia 5xx or fatter 6xx cards.

You'd be surprised how little power a PC really takes at the wall. I have a couple of meters around to test with, you might find you don't even need the PSU.
banned#7
He has Geoforce GTX 660 GPU, Crucial mx100 256gb drive and 1tb HDD.

Perhaps it's just a CPU required.
#8
At work (I'm the IT guy) we use Lenovo and they come with laughably small PSU (if you ask most people). THE 380 PSU in them has never missed a beat with the CAD designers with graphics cards and SSD. You might want larger but I definitely would try your 450 first.

An SSD is probably the best value improvement you could make to most computers. Have one SSD and one regular as a second drive.
banned#9
EDIT


Ok if I keep exactly what he's already got

B75MA-P45 mobo
4gb ram
GTX 660

What CPU would you suggest as the upgrade so he can run Elite Dangerous



Edited By: Lyrrad on Dec 05, 2014 18:45: edit
#10
Lyrrad
EDIT


Ok if I keep exactly what he's already got

B75MA-P45 mobo
4gb ram
GTX 660

What CPU would you suggest as the upgrade so he can run Elite Dangerous


Looks like Quad Core CPU 4 x 2Ghz according to the executive producer. It's been optimised since then so something like an i5 should do very well.
#11
Lyrrad
EDIT


Ok if I keep exactly what he's already got

B75MA-P45 mobo
4gb ram
GTX 660

What CPU would you suggest as the upgrade so he can run Elite Dangerous



Personally I think the GPU is more important than the CPU, I know the developer says quad core 2ghz but that is Q6400 territory, and your sons Core i3 3220 is much faster across the board regardless of number of cores so I would upgrade the Graphics to something like an r9 280x.
banned#12
ZaphodBeeblebrox
Lyrrad
EDIT


Ok if I keep exactly what he's already got

B75MA-P45 mobo
4gb ram
GTX 660

What CPU would you suggest as the upgrade so he can run Elite Dangerous



Personally I think the GPU is more important than the CPU, I know the developer says quad core 2ghz but that is Q6400 territory, and your sons Core i3 3220 is much faster across the board regardless of number of cores so I would upgrade the Graphics to something like an r9 280x.

This Elite Dangerous had better be a good game. My son pretty much plays TF2, Minecraft and Counterstrike although he seems perfectly happy playing Minecraft on Android now.

I always knew his setup was entry level and it's been a couple of years now. So bottleneck is GPU? Is the r9 280x the only option
#13
Lyrrad
I always knew his setup was entry level and it's been a couple of years now. So bottleneck is GPU? Is the r9 280x the only option

An i3 and GTX 660 wasn't exactly entry level two years ago and it's still pretty potent now.

Upgrading in advance of a game is silly. Do research and be prepared, but find out how it runs first before spending anything or it'll end up costing far more than it needs to.

If it does turn out to be unusually CPU heavy then you could swap it for a i5-3000. Doesn't really matter which model, there's not much variance. The 3570 was only around 15% faster than the 3330.
#14
Lyrrad
ZaphodBeeblebrox
Lyrrad
EDIT


Ok if I keep exactly what he's already got

B75MA-P45 mobo
4gb ram
GTX 660

What CPU would you suggest as the upgrade so he can run Elite Dangerous



Personally I think the GPU is more important than the CPU, I know the developer says quad core 2ghz but that is Q6400 territory, and your sons Core i3 3220 is much faster across the board regardless of number of cores so I would upgrade the Graphics to something like an r9 280x.

This Elite Dangerous had better be a good game. My son pretty much plays TF2, Minecraft and Counterstrike although he seems perfectly happy playing Minecraft on Android now.

I always knew his setup was entry level and it's been a couple of years now. So bottleneck is GPU? Is the r9 280x the only option

In most games the GPU is always going to be the bottleneck, there are some exceptions but I have seen none that truely require quad core or even properly use it yet. No the r9 280x isn't the only option but it is a great value GPU, you could go with a GTX 760 or anything better than these but I dont think it is worth upgrading to anything below these really as the GTX 660 is still pretty good.


EndlessWaves
Lyrrad
I always knew his setup was entry level and it's been a couple of years now. So bottleneck is GPU? Is the r9 280x the only option

An i3 and GTX 660 wasn't exactly entry level two years ago and it's still pretty potent now.

Upgrading in advance of a game is silly. Do research and be prepared, but find out how it runs first before spending anything or it'll end up costing far more than it needs to.

If it does turn out to be unusually CPU heavy then you could swap it for a i5-3000. Doesn't really matter which model, there's not much variance. The 3570 was only around 15% faster than the 3330.

I agree, no sense speding money until you have to, My son is using a Core 2 Quad Q8200 and a GTX 480 and it plays everything at 1680x1050 with high or better settings. The GTX 660 is pretty equivalent to the GTX 480 and the Core i3 in your sons PC is better than the q8200 my son has so I see no reason why the PC you already have wouldnt run the game.

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