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PC Upgrade (motherboard/cpu bundle)

Muhammad Avatar
9y, 10m agoPosted 9 years, 10 months ago
Hi,

I'v had my computer for about 4 years now. It has been upgraded before (Memory is 1Ghz, DVDRW, 2Hd's, 256mb Graphics card, case, 26" LCD, wireless etc.) the only thing that has been left in there is the motherboard and processor.

Motherboard: AMD SOCETA ECS K7S5A
Processor: 1.4GHZ Thunderbird Core

Looking to upgrade to maybe Athlon 64/64FX, or something fast.
Usage: Internet/email/games etc.

Any recommendations would be highly appreciated.

Thank You in advance.
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9y, 10m agoPosted 9 years, 10 months ago
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#1
Could you give details on your current set-up? Bit difficult to recommend stuff without knowing what components you have already

EDIT: From what you posted things are looking pretty limited. Theres not a lot of Socket A kit around these days. Its been superseded by Socket 939 and Socket 940 (AM2) so you'll be binning anything that isn't Socket 939 or 940 (AM2) compatible.
#2
satchef1
Could you give details on your current set-up? Bit difficult to recommend stuff without knowing what components you have already


agreed satche1,

we need to know what type of RAM you have as this may not work in your new motherboard, or if it does then it may compromise it's true ability. Also need to know whether your Graphics Card is AGP or PCI-E.
#3
Take a look at http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/bundles.html

You may also need to upgrade the PSU and be sure to get a board that will allow you to use your current RAM.
#4
The key point here is price, we can't help you unless we know what you are willing to spend mate. Let us know and we will try our best.

Cheers.
#5
Hi guys, thank you for your replies.

Sorry for the lack of information given, I'm not that good with computers.

Here is some more info:
The memory is 512mb x 2 ddr pc2100 (cannot see which brand)
The Graphics card is AGP (ATI Radeon Powercolor 9250)
Power supply is 500Watts
Price for upgrade: £150/£250

please tell me what else I need to find out, I'll post it here asap.

Thank You in advance
#6
I just need something fast, I dont want slow loading pages/freezing etc. It will mainly be used for surfing the internet and homework for my kids.
#7
I will give my brutal & honest opinion here... you are better off buying a basic system (minus monitor) from somewhere like www.ebuyer.com.

AGP motherboards are getting rarer, and the ones that exist are at the lower end of the performance spectrum. Likewise with the RAM, a faster processor will most likely need DDR2 RAM now, and pc2100 RAM will be either incompatible, or slow everything down.

You could definitely buy a decent base unit for £250 - have a search of the forum because I think I saw a good one earlier today.

With the base unit, you can still use things like DVD drive, Hard Disk, possibly the PSU (if it's better than the new one).
#8
Try this little utility:

http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-138.zip

No install needed. Run the file and it will give you all the information you need to know about your current setup, which you can then post back here to help others.
#9
markwills
AGP motherboards are getting rarer, and the ones that exist are at the lower end of the performance spectrum. Likewise with the RAM, a faster processor will most likely need DDR2 RAM now, and pc2100 RAM will be either incompatible, or slow everything down.






Thank You for that Mark.

Forget about the graphics card & memory then, I think I will upgrade them as well, but my budget is still the same £150/£250, dont mind good onboard graphics either.
#10
5aq1b
Try this little utility:

http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-138.zip

No install needed. Run the file and it will give you all the information you need to know about your current setup, which you can then post back here to help others.


Saqib thanks for your help but the link doesn't seem to work.
#11
Hi These guys do CPU and motherboard bundles with memory http://www.komplett.co.uk. Dont know if its good value or not. Service is good got my HDD from here to upgrade sky+ box.
#12
markwills
I will give my brutal & honest opinion here... you are better off buying a basic system (minus monitor)


Which would you recommend:
http://www.comet.co.uk/cometbrowse/product.do?sku=355232

or

http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41150

Thanks
#13
unfit
Hi These guys do CPU and motherboard bundles with memory http://www.komplett.co.uk. Dont know if its good value or not. Service is good got my HDD from here to upgrade sky+ box.



Thanks, I'll do a search and see how it goes.
#14
Muhammad
Saqib thanks for your help but the link doesn't seem to work.


No problem

Sorry, just noticed that it's not working. Strange, was working just before i posted. Here's another link for it . . .

http://www.filehippo.com/download_cpuz/

The d/load link is in the green vertical bar on the right hand side of the page.

hope it helps
#15
Hi there.

Your best bet is to upgrade to a PCI-express motherbaord with onbaord graphics. This will be better than the card you have got, also you can uograde to a better card if the need arises at a later date.

For £250 I would go for a cheap dual core processor the AMD X2 3800, socker 939 board, go with AM2 if you want, then upgrade your ram to 1gb of DDR2. Total cost should be about £210 or so.

I will dig up what I think is about the best package.

Then sell your old processor, ram, and card on eBay. Should get you about £60 or so back.
#16
Quick question: Did you upgrade the computer yourself? How would you feel about building a part of a new system? It will save you some money and this way you know what it is your buying
#17
beerman1

Hi there.

Your best bet is to upgrade to a PCI-express motherbaord with onbaord graphics. This will be better than the card you have got, also you can uograde to a better card if the need arises at a later date.

For £250 I would go for a cheap dual core processor the AMD X2 3800, socker 939 board, go with AM2 if you want, then upgrade your ram to 1gb of DDR2. Total cost should be about £210 or so.

I will dig up what I think is about the best package.

Then sell your old processor, ram, and card on eBay. Should get you about £60 or so back.


Thank You guys for your replies.

That sounds alright, would you not recommend the system at comet for £299, I know its +£90 but I might get a little back by selling the old mb/cpu/ram (not expecting that much) they all do work fine.

Also the spec seems close to what you have recommended, AMDX2 3.8Ghz, 1GB ram etc. Thanks.

satchef1
Quick question: Did you upgrade the computer yourself? How would you feel about building a part of a new system?


Yes upgraded it myself. I can do a little like removing the old component and fitting the new one. Yes would indeed like to build my own system, what would you recommend? Thanks

kevin666
MOD EDIT - Post removed due to self-promotion


I'm definently interested in this deal, thanks kevin.

The memory is sold out, any other recommendations? maybe from another retailer!

Never heard of this company before, have you or anyone else have any feedback from these guys?

Thanks again guys for all your help, very much appreciated.
#18
Hi again.

The comet one is a very good price, basically for £90 more you are getting the case, keyboard, mouse, dvd writer, 160gb hard drive, 9-1 card reader, AND a genuine version of Windows Media XP.

But the only problem is I am almost 100% certain it is the old type DDR memory and not DDR2, (which it will be socket 939 and not AM2). Now there really is not much difference in performance but if your going forward I would suggest getting a DDR2 motherboard). Alo I can't find anywhere to see if it is PCI-express or an AGP graphics slot.

I was searching for you earlier but had a nightmare with my connection, also missed out on two friggin poker tourneys that I signed up to because my PC would not login to any poker software!! Anyway I was also thinking about a nice cheap Core 2 Duo system which is even better than the AMD we have been talking about. For less than 250 you can get the following:

Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 £119 http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/112704
Motherboard about £40/£60 (The only thing is I have never used Intel so have no idea which to go for, if anyone can recommend a good Core 2 board for about £60 that would be a great help, must have onbaord graphics).
FFR 2 Ram £71 - http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/91121/rb/24430336962

Plus use 5 day (super saver delivery) and get free delivery.

To be honest that would be your best option.
#19
Thank You for taking the time to do the research for me, very much appreciated.

I would definently be interested in the am2/ddr2/pciexpress bundle rather than the 939/ddr/agp one. I would be able to upgrade again in the future, to pci-express/vista etc.

So is the intel processor much faster than the amd one?
I know there is price difference of approx £30, but I dont mind paying this extra if this processor gives out much better performance than the amd one.

Also anbody know of a good motherboard that would suite this processor.?

Thanks in advance.
#20
Muhammad
Thank You, would definently be interested in the am2/ddr2/pciexpress bundle rather than the 939/ddr/agp one. I would be able to upgrade again in the future, maybe to vista etc.

So what other alternative bundles would you recommend, like the one Kevin has kindly recommended, above? Although seems fine as well, but the memory is out of stock, also have not heard of these guys before, any feedback, Thanks again.


Read the bottom of my post mate, I think that is your best option, although AMD dual core systems are good the new core 2 duo from Intel is about 20-25% faster and a hell of a lot better on power consumption.

If someone can point you in the correct direction towards a motherboard with onboard graphics (hopefully from ebuyer so you can buy everything in one go and keep the free delivery), then you are almost set mate.

EDIT:

Lol I see you edit your post, we are too quick for each other, hehe.

To show you how good the Core 2 are here is a quick benchmark for you to look at:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2802&p=9
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2802&p=10

And just incase you think that site is biased towards Intel here is another:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2duo-e6300_11.html

You can see that the E6300 beats most AMD X2 chips in every game even beats the 5000+ in some which is quite remarkable. If you overclock your setup then this thing will even beat an FX62 in everything!!

Go for it.
#21
beerman1

Lol I see you edit your post, we are too quick for each other, hehe


Yes we are, I see your also a night owl or maybe a betting man, best of luck in your stakes. The other day I was playing roulette on casino-on-net (888.com) won about $750, should have left it at that, next bet turned out to be a disaster, lost everything :-( aaah well you win some and you lose some (although in betting no one ever really wins).

beerman1
If someone can point you in the correct direction towards a motherboard with onboard graphics (hopefully from ebuyer so you can buy everything in one go and keep the free delivery), then you are almost set mate.


Nice one, Now my mind is definently set on the Intel Core2Duo bundle.

Just need a good motherboard that can take these under its wings.

Any help on this would be appreciated.
#22
if you want a core2duo bundle here what I would recommend

Asus P5V-VMDH ~£50
1GB DDR PC6700 ~£75
core2duo itself will set u back £120
that is £250 under your budget with onboard gfx

DH boards comes with free remote and wi fi as well ;)
#23
I totally agree with beerman1..you should go for a Intel Core 2 Muhammad as they knock the socks off any other CPU.
#24
coke_dude
if you want a core2duo bundle here what I would recommend

Asus P5V-VMDH ~£50
1GB DDR PC6700 ~£75
core2duo itself will set u back £120
that is £250 under your budget with onboard gfx

DH boards comes with free remote and wi fi as well ;)


Cool, Thanks very much for your help and advice.

I very much like the bundle you have recommended:
Motherboard: Asus P5V-VMDH Skt 775 P4M890
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 1.86GHz
Memory: Corsair® Value Select 1Gb DDR2 PC5400
Total cost including delivery: £255.63 (-3% quidco)

Also I was browsing through ebay for these items, not to buy, just to read more information. I prefer to buy from retailers because of guarantees.

Anyway i came across an auction selling intel core2duo processor (Click Here to see), the description stated that pcformat.co.uk was able to overclock this processor to the same speed as a Extreme X6800 which is 2.93Ghz.

I do not know anything about overclocking, but would not mind a little extra power in a couple of months, maybe up to 2.3Ghz or whatever speed it is safe to take it to, do not want to damage any components. Also it stated at the auction that this processor is only compatible with Intel 975X, 965, 945 Chipsets.

Is the processor/motherboard bundle fairly easy to overclock?
Having never done so, do you think I would be able to overclock it?
Will the above motherboard be compatible with this processor?

I am think of buying this bundle either tonight or tomorrow, so hopefully I will get it before next weekend.

Thank You in advance.
#25
Yes mate that board is perfect for that CPU, I only know because there is a very highly respected company on eBay selling a PC with the E6300 and that exact motherboard. I am not allowed to put links but just type into eBay search, 'core 2 duo remote' and you will probably only get the one result, take a look at it and you will see that the motherboard he puts into the PC with the E6300 is the one you have been recommended.

As for overclocking, I do not really bother but there are many good PC forums on the internet, things like pcformat.co.uk/forum will help you. Just tell them the exact specs of your system and they will help you step by step to overclock if you feel the need.

And yes this can be overclocked to the same speeds but only with correct combo, I don't think this board will have the features to let you go that far. But you will still get a decent overclock out of it which should even blow the FX series of AMD away.
#26
Thanks very much guys, very much appreciated.

I have decided to go for this bundle now.
It is also available at ebuyer.com, where I will be buying from.

reasonably priced at £235.62 (free shipping within 5 working days) + 1.5% Quidco £3.53

Bundle as follows:
Motherboard - CPU - Memory

Both the Motherboard and CPU are in stock there but the memory is not the same.

Please can you let me know if the above memory will be alright to use with this board? or maybe a better one would suite it!!
also are there any promotional codes to use at the site?

Thank You!
#27
this motherboard will not be suitable for overclock but it can go up to 2.2GHz no problem.
if you are thinking of overclocking, you need to buy high end motherboards costing around £80+ and memory faster than pc667 plus extra coolings etc.

why not buy E6400 if you want higher speed? the clock would be 2.18GHz the price difference is about £20.
you would be better of buying a nice graphic card though rather than having higher clock.

Core2Duo E6300 is as fast as AMD X2 4400, dont pay attention to clock speed.. there are other things that makes a cpu faster than another.
#28
coke_dude
this motherboard will not be suitable for overclock but it can go up to 2.2GHz no problem.


Hi,

yes if it can go up to 2.2Ghz then I think its fine our usage.

just wanted to know if the above memory was alright for the board/bundle?

Thank You in advance.
#29
Sorry for long reply.

That memory is fine mate. Go for it.
#30
Cool, Thanks very much
#31
Everything up and running, very happy, Thanks for all your help.
#32
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/1820/copyofddp3.jpg
#33
niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice...my daughter has that case
#34
My son and daughter also love the case. Purchased it from ebuyer last year (april2006), its just been gathering dust since then. I dont think they sell it anymore.

I'm very happy with the pc, its fast and responsive.

I would recommend the Intel Core 2 Duo to anyone.

If I can be of any help to anyone please just ask.
#35
Awesome mate, it's nice to see a result after helping someone out. Rep given mate for keeping us informed. :)

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