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hello my house was built in 1997 and i'm planning on scrapping off the nasty popcorn ceiling in my living room. youtube videos look simple but always stress about the dangers of asbestos. as… Read More
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2y, 8m agoPosted 2 years, 8 months ago
hello

my house was built in 1997 and i'm planning on scrapping off the nasty popcorn ceiling in my living room.
youtube videos look simple but always stress about the dangers of asbestos.

as far as i'm aware it wasn't until 2000 until is was completely stoppped.... im guessing '97 would be perfectly fine but can't be too careful i suppose..

i f anyone has any knowledge on this matter or advice that would be much appreciated.
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2y, 8m agoPosted 2 years, 8 months ago
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#1
just plasterboard over it saves lot of mess. b&q cheapest for largest sheets £5 each
#2
It would say in the survey from when you bought the place if you still have it?
#3
UnicornRiver
It would say in the survey from when you bought the place if you still have it?

yeah just read that last night and wasn't clear. - ceilings have artex type product-seek advice before working on these areas.

generic answer for such a ceiling i guess
#4
norville555
just plasterboard over it saves lot of mess. b&q cheapest for largest sheets £5 each

i was skeptical with mess at first but when its sufficiently damp , it looks like slicing through butter
#5
peanuted
UnicornRiver
It would say in the survey from when you bought the place if you still have it?

yeah just read that last night and wasn't clear. - ceilings have artex type product-seek advice before working on these areas.

generic answer for such a ceiling i guess

It's great that we pay so much for these surveys and they give advice like that!! Errm if it is an easy job, maybe pay a decorator £50 or so and then they take the risk not you?
#6
Hi, when it to Asbestos, you can't be too careful (same goes with that Handy Andy favourite, MDF), so you may want to get in the experts in who'll be able to it more carefully, and probably a lot quicker and cleaner.
Since you'll have to probably sand, and then float over with finish afterwards to achieve a nice flat surface, it may be cheaper & easier to take down the old ceiling (good time to AV cables, plumbing etc now) then reboard, tape and joint or plaster?
Anyway, as an ex builder, just a couple of options.

Although it should be fine,.unless you're absolutely sure and decide to do it yourself, you'll want to seal of the room, and suited up, and wear the correct mask, it's easy not to, as I've done in the past with MDF, but why take the risk to save time? it ain't worth it.
#7
norville555
just plasterboard over it saves lot of mess. b&q cheapest for largest sheets £5 each

The bodge option! ha ha, seriously this'll add a lot of unnecessary weight, and isn't so easy to do, as you'll need to locate and mark the joists first, but it is an option!
#8
board and skim over to be safe or pay for a test to be done.
also if you take the above advice about tricking a decorator, if he disturbs it, it will be in your house somewhere even using dust sheets and if you have children they might develop asbestosis so you can save a few quid long after your gone.
find the joists fix boards to that then fill joints and sand or get plasterer in to do the lot providing extra fire thermal and sound protection.
#9
HAL2000
norville555
just plasterboard over it saves lot of mess. b&q cheapest for largest sheets £5 each

The bodge option! ha ha, seriously this'll add a lot of unnecessary weight, and isn't so easy to do, as you'll need to locate and mark the joists first, but it is an option!
HAL2000
norville555
just plasterboard over it saves lot of mess. b&q cheapest for largest sheets £5 each

The bodge option! ha ha, seriously this'll add a lot of unnecessary weight, and isn't so easy to do, as you'll need to locate and mark the joists first, but it is an option!


someone who doesn't know what they are on anout haha
#10
Why not spend the £30-£40 for an analysis of a sample taken by yourself, obviously observing all the precautions, plenty of do's and don'ts on the internet? or obtain the services of an asbestos removal company who will take a sample and advise accordingly, circa £100 for that service.

I would be very surprised if the ceiling does contain asbestos on a 1997 build, the problem was well recognised by then.
#11
HAL2000
norville555
just plasterboard over it saves lot of mess. b&q cheapest for largest sheets £5 each
The bodge option! ha ha, seriously this'll add a lot of unnecessary weight, and isn't so easy to do, as you'll need to locate and mark the joists first, but it is an option!

what B/S

this is very standard practice - this is what professional plasterers do with artex ceiling ets

by far the simplest and most effective solution - board and skim

EliTom
#12
I'd go for what elitom said. No bodge option in that at all!!
#13
interesting reading so far

thanks
#14
There will be no asbestos. I would get a plasterer in to give it a skim. I promise you will regret it if you don't.
#15
i would go with the above and plaster over it. onecoat or undercoat plaster as the base the a skim on top. job done and it shouldnt really be more the £100 labour or so.

Edited By: kash2013 on Aug 01, 2014 22:18
#16
It should be fine but get a sample taken and you will take the worry out of it.
Cheap and means you can do it cheaply and quicker if it's all clear.
#17
We had our ceilings replastered due to artex ceilings.
Expensive but so worth it.
#18
Could be textured paint, which is plaster,wood glue and paint. I steamed mine off and it pealed off like wallpaper back to the plasterboard. Then paid someone to skim it.
#19
kester76
Could be textured paint, which is plaster,wood glue and paint. I steamed mine off and it pealed off like wallpaper back to the plasterboard. Then paid someone to skim it.

interesting , it could well be textured paint. not sure how to be sure though?
#20
peanuted
kester76
Could be textured paint, which is plaster,wood glue and paint. I steamed mine off and it pealed off like wallpaper back to the plasterboard. Then paid someone to skim it.

interesting , it could well be textured paint. not sure how to be sure though?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artex House age or get someone to test it if you house was made prior to the 1990's
Mine and your wasn't so I guess it should be ok in theory.

Edited By: kester76 on Aug 08, 2014 21:41
#21
Ask chocci, he will be able to tell if its asbestos just by looking at a picture of it. :{

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