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Excuse me for being very dopey - but could someone kindly answer a few questions for a thicko ! We have a PS2 - which my lad uses on a pretty regular basis - but he has asked if he adds some mone…
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6y, 5m agoPosted 6 years, 5 months ago
Excuse me for being very dopey - but could someone kindly answer a few questions for a thicko !

We have a PS2 - which my lad uses on a pretty regular basis - but he has asked if he adds some money to it / asks for Christmas - can we sort it and trade it in for a ps3.

Basically i am after knowing - can he play ps2 games on it ?

Can you watch dvds on it - or just blu rays

Can you use a memory card (like an ipod / phone) to hold more info - or do you need to buy a big memory at the start ?

What would i expect to pay for one in a good deal.

Thanks HUKDers - i am completly untechnical !
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6y, 5m agoPosted 6 years, 5 months ago
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Basically i am after knowing - can he play ps2 games on it ?

Only if you buy a 60Gb model, which are no longer made and won't have any warranty.

Can you watch dvds on it - or just blu rays

Both.

Can you use a memory card (like an ipod / phone) to hold more info - or do you need to buy a big memory at the start ?

You can use a memory stick. But if you get a PS3 with say 320Gb, it's more than enough for anything you need. You would probably only need 60-80Gb max.

What would i expect to pay for one in a good deal.

It depends if you want any games or if you just want a solo console.
About £199 in some places for just the console.

Edited By: DarkKnight on Oct 29, 2010 22:51: a
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thank you very much for the help (_;)
#3
1. The only ps3 that plays ps2 games is the old 60gb model which is hard to come by now. However once you start with ps3 games you wont bother with ps2 games.
2. Yes DVD & bluray, the DVD also has hdmi upscaling (better picture).
3. You can always upgrade the hard drive with a 2.5" laptop drive.
4. Buy a bundle & sell the extras to get a good model (320gb) for £220.
#4
g1bbuk
1. The only ps3 that plays ps2 games is the old 60gb model which is hard to come by now. However once you start with ps3 games you wont bother with ps2 games.
2. Yes DVD & bluray, the DVD also has hdmi upscaling (better picture).
3. You can always upgrade the hard drive with a 2.5" laptop drive.
4. Buy a bundle & sell the extras to get a good model (320gb) for £220.


thanks for taking the time to explain too ;)
#5
Also, Many PS3 games require an install. The size varies, but expect anything from 3-5 gigs typically per game. If you are getting one with a 320gb hard drive, then not a problem at all, but if youre after being able to play ps2 games on it and go for a second hand 60gb model, I'd be aware of this.

Also, I'd like to say congratulations on having a son who understands money doesn't grow on trees, and has suggested putting his own money towards a ps3 and asking nicely. You only need to go to your local gamestore or supermarket to hear how some of these kids speak to their parents... = )
#6
Good comments made so far (especially those made by RBG7 about your son's financial responsibilities).

I would just like to add that my kids & I regularly still play PS2 games (even after owning one/more PS3 consoles since they were first available in Europe; March 2007).

As I am typing, two of my kids are playing "Everything or Nothing"; a PS2 title, on my (60Gb) PS3 console, for instance.

Good games do not go out of favour because newer games are available. Granted, there will be a period where newer games take precedence, but there may well be periods where you son wishes to return to a past game (to complete it, for example).

So to my point:

Depending on the number of games your son already owns, he may not wish to forego having access to all of these because PS3 consoles available now do not support "backward compatibility" with PS2 titles. (Side note: A PS3 console can play all PS1/PlayStation titles [for the same region; "PAL" (like the video cassette/DVD format), in the case of Europe/Australasia]. You did not mention original PlayStation console games specifically but I thought you may welcome the information).

If the PS2 console you already have is quite old (maybe even one of the original "fat" models, not the newer slimline ones [that you can still buy]) you may find that part-exchanging does not really make a dent in the outlay for a PS3.

Also, not everybody accepts part-exchanges, of course. You may have to sell in (online) classifieds forums. Sainsbury's Supermarkets have an offer at present for a 160Gb PS3 console for £199.99, but do not offer a part-exchange scheme. This offer is due to conclude in the coming week.

PS3 160gb £199.99 at Sainsburys from Wed 27th - one week only

Part-exchanging is possible at GAME, Gamestation, CEx, HMV (perhaps), and so on, but the price you will pay for a PS3 console (with or without bundled games) will be more at these retailers, so it may be a false economy.

These retailers will also accept part-exchanges of the PS2 titles as well, but do not expect to gain a great deal of return on a handful of games. Selling via the "For Sale / Trade" forum here at HotUKDeals.com will probably reap more rewards.

Regarding hard drive capacity...
Two of my kids each have the original 160Gb PS3 consoles; the "fat" Limited Editions not the current "slim" model. They store movies & music on their hard drives, & are using between 90 & 95% of their storage capacity. My 'youngest' & I each have original 60Gb PS3 consoles. Mine is often running out of space & the other is very near to capacity. I do not have any video or music content on my machine; it is just packed full of installed games from Blu-ray Discs, games I have downloaded from PlayStation Store, & saved game data.

So, back to my point :)

I am suggesting that if you can afford to, & you think your son will still play on his PS2 games, please keep the PS2 & buy a PS3 outright.

Please also do not forget that PS3 games are typically more expensive than their PS2 equivalents, & (wireless) controllers ("joypads") are around double the price (if not more) of the wired PS2 versions, so take note to factor-in these costs when "upgrading".

Finally, depending on your circumstances, it may be worth bearing in mind that a PS3 will use more electricity than a PS2, so further costs will be involved here too.

BFN,

fp.
#7
g1bbuk
1. The only ps3 that plays ps2 games is the old 60gb model which is hard to come by now. However once you start with ps3 games you wont bother with ps2 games.
2. Yes DVD & bluray, the DVD also has hdmi upscaling (better picture).
3. You can always upgrade the hard drive with a 2.5" laptop drive.
4. Buy a bundle & sell the extras to get a good model (320gb) for £220.


thanks for your help.

We are lucky with our lad - we've got a wii and ps2 - but 'Father Christmas' left them both for the family separate years - but he saved for his ds and used birthdya money. He is the only one who really uses the ps2 and always has been - but we wanted him to be aware it was a special present. The wii we use more as a family because the games seem to lend themselves more to that - but he knows he wouldn't get a ps3 as a present - hence the offer to add the money to get it !

Thanks again for taking thwe time to reply ;)
#8
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Good comments made so far (especially those made by RBG7 about your son's financial responsibilities).

I would just like to add that my kids & I regularly still play PS2 games (even after owning one/more PS3 consoles since they were first available in Europe; March 2007).

As I am typing, two of my kids are playing "Everything or Nothing"; a PS2 title, on my (60Gb) PS3 console, for instance.

Good games do not go out of favour because newer games are available. Granted, there will be a period where newer games take precedence, but there may well be periods where you son wishes to return to a past game (to complete it, for example).

So to my point:

Depending on the number of games your son already owns, he may not wish to forego having access to all of these because PS3 consoles available now do not support "backward compatibility" with PS2 titles. (Side note: A PS3 console can play all PS1/PlayStation titles [for the same region; "PAL" (like the video cassette/DVD format), in the case of Europe/Australasia]. You did not mention original PlayStation console games specifically but I thought you may welcome the information).

If the PS2 console you already have is quite old (maybe even one of the original "fat" models, not the newer slimline ones [that you can still buy]) you may find that part-exchanging does not really make a dent in the outlay for a PS3.

Also, not everybody accepts part-exchanges, of course. You may have to sell in (online) classifieds forums. Sainsbury's Supermarkets have an offer at present for a 160Gb PS3 console for £199.99, but do not offer a part-exchange scheme. This offer is due to conclude in the coming week.

PS3 160gb £199.99 at Sainsburys from Wed 27th - one week only

Part-exchanging is possible at GAME, Gamestation, CEx, HMV (perhaps), and so on, but the price you will pay for a PS3 console (with or without bundled games) will be more at these retailers, so it may be a false economy.

These retailers will also accept part-exchanges of the PS2 titles as well, but do not expect to gain a great deal of return on a handful of games. Selling via the "For Sale / Trade" forum here at HotUKDeals.com will probably reap more rewards.

Regarding hard drive capacity...
Two of my kids each have the original 160Gb PS3 consoles; the "fat" Limited Editions not the current "slim" model. They store movies & music on their hard drives, & are using between 90 & 95% of their storage capacity. My 'youngest' & I each have original 60Gb PS3 consoles. Mine is often running out of space & the other is very near to capacity. I do not have any video or music content on my machine; it is just packed full of installed games from Blu-ray Discs, games I have downloaded from PlayStation Store, & saved game data.

So, back to my point :)

I am suggesting that if you can afford to, & you think your son will still play on his PS2 games, please keep the PS2 & buy a PS3 outright.

Please also do not forget that PS3 games are typically more expensive than their PS2 equivalents, & (wireless) controllers ("joypads") are around double the price (if not more) of the wired PS2 versions, so take note to factor-in these costs when "upgrading".

Finally, depending on your circumstances, it may be worth bearing in mind that a PS3 will use more electricity than a PS2, so further costs will be involved here too.

BFN,

fp.


Thanks so much for all the info.

I think you might be right - he loves his ps2 - and uses it loads - lots of his friends has x boxes or ps3's - and of course he wants to be like them - and also some of the games he has seen and fancied saving for seem to be only out in ps3 version and not ps2.

The other advantage we have is his sister is only 5 - so he will happily sit with headphones on the corner of the dining room (just the other side of an open french door) and watch a dvd (like Star Wars etc ) while we do something else or watch something more suitable (Cinderella ! ) on the ps2 and i didn't want to lose that - we haven't got a blu ray player - and anyway i wouldn't want to have to replace all his dvds !

So - it sounds like i need to keep my eye out for a good deal on a ps3 - and get him to count his pennies ! And ask relatives for the bits like controllers from 'Father Christmas' - and keep the ps2.

One last question - i am going down the ps3 route as thats what we have - am i right in going for that - or is the X box better ?

Thanks for your help everyone ;)
#9
:) The age-old question of which is best.

You are never going to get a completely unbiased opinion on this because everybody you ask will favour one or more features of one console to the other; the response is so subjective.

However, I would advise asking friends & relations with similar domestic arrangements to your own for their opinion rather than asking a range of people "on the Internet" who may, or may not, have their own motives for their recommendations,

If your son plans to play online with this friends, then I would suggest that you select the console that offers the most friends to play with. That is, if more friends have an Xbox 360, then buy that.

Also, if your son is used to the PS2 controller(s) then he will find the (official) controllers for the PS3 easier to migrate to.

We (my household) have more PS3 consoles than we do Xbox 360 machines purely because we had the original PlayStation & PS2 consoles so it was the natural progression (especially as two of our PS3 consoles still play [most] PS2 titles).

I find the Xbox 360 controllers too cumbersome & heavy to hold for prolonged periods & rarely play for longer than an hour because of this. Others may find the converse.

In order to play online with other Xbox 360 players you will need to buy a subscription to "Xbox LIVE" (to convert the default Silver membership to a Gold membership). The equivalent for the PS3 is "PlayStation Network" & that will, if Sony are to be believed, always have free online gaming.

The Xbox 360 console is cheaper to buy.

The PS3 can play CDs, DVDs, & Blu-ray Discs. The Xbox 360 just CDs & DVDs. An Xbox 360 console can play (the now defunct format of) HD-DVDs if you buy an external HD-DVD add-on unit.

Some people can quote lots of examples of reviews & other comments about why the Xbox 360 version of the same game available for the PS3 is better in terms of graphical quality.

If you are playing both consoles side-by-side in the same lighting, on the same day, in the same position, with the same set of eyes, on a standard definition (non-high definition) television then you may not notice, nor care. I am impressed by the visual output of some Xbox 360 titles. Likewise, some PS3 titles are (equally) impressive.

What I would suggest however, is that you &/or your son visits a high street retailer & look at the current selection (i.e. not the future proposed list) of games available for both consoles.

If you cannot find, say, at least ten titles that he would like to play for one console then discount that straight away. If you struggle to find games to play, there is little point buying that console.

I'm not going to throw in arguments about motion controllers (Microsoft's soon-to-be released, "Kinect for Xbox 360" versus the already available PlayStation Move), the ability to "crack" each console (for many purposes, one of which is the ability to download & play games illegally), or which console has the better "exclusives" (those games available just for that console & not the other).

I will, however, point you at a recent comment in a PS3-related thread where I listed many "exclusives" available for the PS3:

[ http://www.hotukdeals.com/misc/wanted-ps3-advice/787449?p=9693775 ]

To be completely open, the PS3 is my favoured console, but I do not wish to influence your decision.

Some features/aspects of the Xbox 360 I prefer over the PS3, & vice-versa.

If you start a thread specifically asking for somebody with more experience of the Xbox 360 to summarise a similar set of titles then you will be able to compare like-for-like to reach a decision.

PS. I just spotted this deal had been listed:

120GB PS3 CONSOLE £179.99 Smyths Toys

BFN,

fp.
#10
lucerysmum
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Good comments made so far (especially those made by RBG7 about your son's financial responsibilities).

I would just like to add that my kids & I regularly still play PS2 games (even after owning one/more PS3 consoles since they were first available in Europe; March 2007).

You are an absolute star mate - thanks for the time you have taken to reply with so much detail.

I have taken note of all you have said - and will take him down to /game / HMV and have a good look and a get a realistic opinion know i am aware of the por's and con's and what will be best for us.

Thnaks so much ;)

As I am typing, two of my kids are playing "Everything or Nothing"; a PS2 title, on my (60Gb) PS3 console, for instance.

Good games do not go out of favour because newer games are available. Granted, there will be a period where newer games take precedence, but there may well be periods where you son wishes to return to a past game (to complete it, for example).

So to my point:

Depending on the number of games your son already owns, he may not wish to forego having access to all of these because PS3 consoles available now do not support "backward compatibility" with PS2 titles. (Side note: A PS3 console can play all PS1/PlayStation titles [for the same region; "PAL" (like the video cassette/DVD format), in the case of Europe/Australasia]. You did not mention original PlayStation console games specifically but I thought you may welcome the information).

If the PS2 console you already have is quite old (maybe even one of the original "fat" models, not the newer slimline ones [that you can still buy]) you may find that part-exchanging does not really make a dent in the outlay for a PS3.

Also, not everybody accepts part-exchanges, of course. You may have to sell in (online) classifieds forums. Sainsbury's Supermarkets have an offer at present for a 160Gb PS3 console for £199.99, but do not offer a part-exchange scheme. This offer is due to conclude in the coming week.

PS3 160gb £199.99 at Sainsburys from Wed 27th - one week only

Part-exchanging is possible at GAME, Gamestation, CEx, HMV (perhaps), and so on, but the price you will pay for a PS3 console (with or without bundled games) will be more at these retailers, so it may be a false economy.

These retailers will also accept part-exchanges of the PS2 titles as well, but do not expect to gain a great deal of return on a handful of games. Selling via the "For Sale / Trade" forum here at HotUKDeals.com will probably reap more rewards.

Regarding hard drive capacity...
Two of my kids each have the original 160Gb PS3 consoles; the "fat" Limited Editions not the current "slim" model. They store movies & music on their hard drives, & are using between 90 & 95% of their storage capacity. My 'youngest' & I each have original 60Gb PS3 consoles. Mine is often running out of space & the other is very near to capacity. I do not have any video or music content on my machine; it is just packed full of installed games from Blu-ray Discs, games I have downloaded from PlayStation Store, & saved game data.

So, back to my point :)

I am suggesting that if you can afford to, & you think your son will still play on his PS2 games, please keep the PS2 & buy a PS3 outright.

Please also do not forget that PS3 games are typically more expensive than their PS2 equivalents, & (wireless) controllers ("joypads") are around double the price (if not more) of the wired PS2 versions, so take note to factor-in these costs when "upgrading".

Finally, depending on your circumstances, it may be worth bearing in mind that a PS3 will use more electricity than a PS2, so further costs will be involved here too.

BFN,

fp.


Thanks so much for all the info.

I think you might be right - he loves his ps2 - and uses it loads - lots of his friends has x boxes or ps3's - and of course he wants to be like them - and also some of the games he has seen and fancied saving for seem to be only out in ps3 version and not ps2.

The other advantage we have is his sister is only 5 - so he will happily sit with headphones on the corner of the dining room (just the other side of an open french door) and watch a dvd (like Star Wars etc ) while we do something else or watch something more suitable (Cinderella ! ) on the ps2 and i didn't want to lose that - we haven't got a blu ray player - and anyway i wouldn't want to have to replace all his dvds !

So - it sounds like i need to keep my eye out for a good deal on a ps3 - and get him to count his pennies ! And ask relatives for the bits like controllers from 'Father Christmas' - and keep the ps2.

One last question - i am going down the ps3 route as thats what we have - am i right in going for that - or is the X box better ?

Thanks for your help everyone ;)
#11
lucerysmum

You are an absolute star mate - thanks for the time you have taken to reply with so much detail.

I have taken note of all you have said - and will take him down to /game / HMV and have a good look and a get a realistic opinion know i am aware of the por's and con's and what will be best for us.


You are very welcome.

If you are still unsure after visiting the "high street" &/or speaking to the in-store staff, please post again.

I am always happy to help when/if I can.

BFN,

fp.
#12
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lucerysmum

You are an absolute star mate - thanks for the time you have taken to reply with so much detail.

I have taken note of all you have said - and will take him down to /game / HMV and have a good look and a get a realistic opinion know i am aware of the por's and con's and what will be best for us.


You are very welcome.

If you are still unsure after visiting the "high street" &/or speaking to the in-store staff, please post again.

I am always happy to help when/if I can.

BFN,

fp.


Thanks ;)

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