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Putting up a piece of beading/achieving a straight edge on external wall

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I have recently had a metal piece of beading put up on an unlevel external corner in my sitting room and the wall now looks great. I'm a bit pushed for time now, and have just uncovered another extern… Read More
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3m, 1w agoPosted 3 months, 1 week ago
I have recently had a metal piece of beading put up on an unlevel external corner in my sitting room and the wall now looks great. I'm a bit pushed for time now, and have just uncovered another external corner which is not looking too good either. The plasterer that came before used a piece of metal beading that just gripped around the outer corner (no nails/screws needed). Is there an all-in-one mixture that you can use to hold up/cover the metal beading - on-line videos are just showing around 3 products that need to be used? Somebody mentioned that there is a tape you can use instead for external corners, would this be easier to use - I will be papering the wall afterwards, not painting it? Also, above my windows, some of the edges are not looking too great, is there a type of tool you can use to hold against the wall when you are perhaps applying polyfiller to level off the edges a bit (use a tool so that straighter edges can be achieved)? Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you
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3m, 1w agoPosted 3 months, 1 week ago
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#1
3mm stop end bead. Wickes sell them but our local B&Q stopped stocking them. I used on the one side and normally around window revels. I also have used the reinforced paper tape and I dampen down and stick with products like easy fill or ready mixed filler. It's not easy to get to stick though. http://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-Thin-Coat-Stop-Bead-3mm-x-3m/p/224660




The dry wall tape here


http://www.wickes.co.uk/Drywall-Corner-Bead-Tape-50mm-x-30m/p/110236?CAWELAID=120135120001234532&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=37524966652&gclid=CjwKEAiArIDFBRCe_9DJi6Or0UcSJAAK1nFvPfPNUniyjtq4Bf660cpLvq51lrXyq8xn_b6S5F-AwBoCrwjw_wcB&CATCI=pla-193348858852%26tmcampid%3D%26tmad%3Dc%26tmplaceref%3DdlkToFBQ%26tmcustom%3Dmkwid%7CsdlkToFBQ_dm%7Cpcrid%7C102693174052%7Ckword%7C%7Cmatch%7C%7Cplid%7C%26utm_content%3DsdlkToFBQ_dm%7Cpcid%7C102693174052%7Cpkw%7C%7Cpmt%7C%7BBidMatchType%7D%7C#close

Edited By: wayners on Feb 12, 2017 12:13: links wrong
#2
use a corner bead or stop bead, stick it with no nails then use two coats of easy fill and sand down afterwards.
#3
If you want to straighten why don't you fix some wood to make it vertical and fill to wood. Use any filler you have dry make good a little if needed sand, seal. http://i66.tinypic.com/fc8imr.jpg
#4

For the first item above, it says it is 3 mm thick, so did you have to use something more than polyfilla to cover the metal on it? Also, I suppose I'd have to use quite a thick layer of filler to try to level it off with the wall, seeing that it is going to be jutting out by 3 mm?

For the second item, is it actually less than 3 mm thick (doesn't say on the website). Did you have to cover all of it with a filler? Did you paint or paper over it - I'm going to be papering and am just wondering if it will stay secure to the wall once the glue gets to it? Thank you.
#5
matthews9479
use a corner bead or stop bead, stick it with no nails then use two coats of easy fill and sand down afterwards.

If I use easy fill, would I need to use PVA glue to seal it before papering over it (for the wall that the plasterer did, he told me to use some PVA glue to seal the wall, before I go and paper it)?
#6
Sorry having trouble this morning with images.. Anyway. Don't get complicated and make it hard work. I would screw some wood to make edge straight. Fill to the wood. When dry remove wood fill and sand. Seal with watered down wood glue / Pva or if you have some oil based Undercoat around use that. The image shows how you would use wood then fill to it http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae169/Wayners123/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20170212_121710_zps6lnu59bs.jpg

Edited By: wayners on Feb 12, 2017 12:40: typo
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Sophiasky

For the first item above, it says it is 3 mm thick, so did you have to use something more than polyfilla to cover the metal on it? Also, I suppose I'd have to use quite a thick layer of filler to try to level it off with the wall, seeing that it is going to be jutting out by 3 mm?

For the second item, is it actually less than 3 mm thick (doesn't say on the website). Did you have to cover all of it with a filler? Did you paint or paper over it - I'm going to be papering and am just wondering if it will stay secure to the wall once the glue gets to it? Thank you.


The tape is very thin. It's only the metal that adds thickness and is used in dry lining with plasterboard so any filler will do job to stick and smooth. I don't like using it if I can help it. The 3mm stop bead is 3mm think and I would use multi finish plaster and skim the whole wall. With a L shaped corner you just need to skim one side with the stop bead on the edge.
#8
PLASTERERS CORNER BEAD TAPE SILVER / ALUMINIUM 50MM X 30M (45720
#9
wayners
Sophiasky
For the first item above, it says it is 3 mm thick, so did you have to use something more than polyfilla to cover the metal on it? Also, I suppose I'd have to use quite a thick layer of filler to try to level it off with the wall, seeing that it is going to be jutting out by 3 mm?
For the second item, is it actually less than 3 mm thick (doesn't say on the website). Did you have to cover all of it with a filler? Did you paint or paper over it - I'm going to be papering and am just wondering if it will stay secure to the wall once the glue gets to it? Thank you.
The tape is very thin. It's only the metal that adds thickness and is used in dry lining with plasterboard so any filler will do job to stick and smooth. I don't like using it if I can help it. The 3mm stop bead is 3mm think and I would use multi finish plaster and skim the whole wall. With a L shaped corner you just need to skim one side with the stop bead on the edge.

I've just had another look at the link for the stop bead you sent me, however, on the site it says that it is for internal corners, not external - would I actually be able to use this on an external corner then - you say to only skim one side of it? Thank you.
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Sophiasky
wayners
Sophiasky
For the first item above, it says it is 3 mm thick, so did you have to use something more than polyfilla to cover the metal on it? Also, I suppose I'd have to use quite a thick layer of filler to try to level it off with the wall, seeing that it is going to be jutting out by 3 mm?
For the second item, is it actually less than 3 mm thick (doesn't say on the website). Did you have to cover all of it with a filler? Did you paint or paper over it - I'm going to be papering and am just wondering if it will stay secure to the wall once the glue gets to it? Thank you.
The tape is very thin. It's only the metal that adds thickness and is used in dry lining with plasterboard so any filler will do job to stick and smooth. I don't like using it if I can help it. The 3mm stop bead is 3mm think and I would use multi finish plaster and skim the whole wall. With a L shaped corner you just need to skim one side with the stop bead on the edge.

I've just had another look at the link for the stop bead you sent me, however, on the site it says that it is for internal corners, not external - would I actually be able to use this on an external corner then - you say to only skim one side of it? Thank you.


I use it mostly on external corners and on a hall ceiling where the ceiling edge opens up for stairs to pass through. Chimney breast I would use on the 2 small sides so I don't have to skim the front as the fireplace can get damaged with wet plaster and sharp trowels around these expensive fires folks buy these days. I also use inside window reveals and patio door reveals, Just be careful not to brush against it until finished or it will come off. When dry and no exposed metal edge to catch it fine. Buy some easy fill and use that as easy to work will and sand
#11
Sophiasky
matthews9479
use a corner bead or stop bead, stick it with no nails then use two coats of easy fill and sand down afterwards.

If I use easy fill, would I need to use PVA glue to seal it before papering over it (for the wall that the plasterer did, he told me to use some PVA glue to seal the wall, before I go and paper it)?


yes, it is recommended, or just use some wallpaper paste and let it dry then paper as normal

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