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After having a nasty "attack" a few days ago, I finally took the plunge and bought some medication. I never realised that hayfever can just get you at any stage in life but after 40+ years of no troub… Read More
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3w, 3d agoPosted 3 weeks, 3 days ago
After having a nasty "attack" a few days ago, I finally took the plunge and bought some medication. I never realised that hayfever can just get you at any stage in life but after 40+ years of no trouble at all, I now get it quite badly. Doing a bit of research, I decided on Cetirizine (over Loratadine) as my poison of choice and it seems to be going well. My leaking tap of a schnoz stopped running after 20 mins and I can now breathe freely again.

Now to my question. I've read all the blurb that came with the medication, and I've also "Googled" quite a lot of articles but I cannot find an answer to what I thought would be a simple thing:

How long do you take the tablets for?

I get that they are 'one-a-day' pills and I've just taken my second one but, in all honesty, I feel fine. So, what do you guys 'n' gals do? Do you stick to a strict regimen - i.e. regardless of how you feel you continue taking the pills to remain trouble-free? Or, do you only take them when trouble strikes or if you think the pollen count is high and you've got to go out/work etc? Perhaps you only take them when symptoms appear and continue taking them until it's over/passed?

I never really considered that this might be something I'll have to take for the rest of my days but; as I say; nothing I could find explained how this works. It was last summer that I noticed I was getting watery eyes in the evening and a slight running nose quite regularly(only one nostril though - weird huh?) but didn't give hayfever a serious thought. This time though, it's the full monty. Streaming eyes, nose, sore throat and sinus pressure. Lovely! I've also found out that you can NEVER have too much toilet paper on hand...

If you are a 'sufferer' and can offer me the pearls of your wisdom then I would appreciate it. Oh, and may all your summers be as pollen-free as possible. Hehe.

Best regards to all, Phsy.
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3w, 3d agoPosted 3 weeks, 3 days ago
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#1
i try not to take one if it's cloudy or rainy, generally though if suns up in morning I'll pop a pill. its the worst thing if haven't taken one and out and about.. nose runny, eyes itchy, sneezing. looking a proper mess.
[mod][Mod Team]#2
Suppose it depends what you're alergic to. This general pollen calendar can be quite handy if you wanted to experiment and take a rough guess at what type of pollen you're allergic to. May be useful longer term to judge when to start and finish the treatment etc.

http://zirtek.co.uk/img/uk/pollen-calendar.png
#3
The thing is with Hayfever, is that even with the tablets, you still will feel the affects, just significantly lessened, I tend to take the tablets until maybe late August, or until I notice that I no longer feel any symptoms anymore, hope this helps :)
#4
I'm allergic to nuts, horses, cats, dogs, rabbits everything really. cetrizine is my 1st line of defence prior to an epi pen.
personally I have to take anti-histamines every day.
#5
BeerDrinker
Suppose it depends what you're alergic to. This general pollen calendar can be quite handy if you wanted to experiment and take a rough guess at what type of pollen you're allergic to. May be useful longer term to judge when to start and finish the treatment etc.http://zirtek.co.uk/img/uk/pollen-calendar.png

Thank you for that, BD. That's a very interesting chart. I'd never really considered 'what' I might be allergic to. I suppose at the time you don't really care. You just want rid of those pesky symptoms...
#6
I used to suffer a lot but as Ive got older its no where near as bad. I only use Piriton on an as and when needed basis.
When I used to have a severe attack and the pills wouldnt work I found sticking my nose in the freezer helped , sounds odd but it worked for me.
#7
BeerDrinker
Suppose it depends what you're alergic to. This general pollen calendar can be quite handy if you wanted to experiment and take a rough guess at what type of pollen you're allergic to. May be useful longer term to judge when to start and finish the treatment etc.http://zirtek.co.uk/img/uk/pollen-calendar.png

Thanks for this I'd never considered the different types of pollen. Will try and monitor when the symptoms are at there worst. Cheers to the OP also for asking the question, I'm at a very similar point.
#8
The other thing I'm quite concerned about is that fact that the pills restrict the production of histamine. Fine in the case of hayfever but being susceptible to every cold that seems to pass my way, histamine is quite handy in helping to shift it. I'm not sure what would happen if you got a proper cold WHILST taking anti-histamine medication. Might help the cold to really take anchor in your system...
#9
Take mine as and when needed. All the news channels do pollen forecasts so you're generally forewarned.
#10
I never have tried any tablets because I only started getting it two/three years ago, but one thing I want to say is "buy aloe Vera tissues". They make noses less sore than normal tissues. Kleenex do them, sometimes in Poundland I think
#11
valhallablue
Take mine as and when needed. All the news channels do pollen forecasts so you're generally forewarned.
Thanks for that but could you elaborate at all? When you say "as and when" does that mean if you see the next day is going to be high you would pop a pill. Do you then also pop a pill the next day (just in case) or only if you see it's going to be high again?

This is the point to my question as upon reading the instructions it mentioned "if you forget to take a tablet then take one as soon as you remember" but nowhere did it describe the medication as a 'course' of tablets. It got me thinking...
#12
Dolphinzz
I never have tried any tablets because I only started getting it two/three years ago, but one thing I want to say is "buy aloe Vera tissues". They make noses less sore than normal tissues. Kleenex do them, sometimes in Poundland I think
OMG - tell me about it! Hehe. I made my way through almost four rolls of loo paper (for my nose, not the other end!) and I look like Rudolf! Vaseline a plenty methinks...
#13
Personally for me it depends on the weather. Cloudy days with minimal wind at the start of spring I am generally ok with. But it really does vary. I tend to take mine daily rather than when required deeper into spring/ summer but that's more through I don't want to end up looking a complete wreck which I inevitably do if I don't take them.
#15
Phsycronix
valhallablue
Take mine as and when needed. All the news channels do pollen forecasts so you're generally forewarned.
Thanks for that but could you elaborate at all? When you say "as and when" does that mean if you see the next day is going to be high you would pop a pill. Do you then also pop a pill the next day (just in case) or only if you see it's going to be high again?
This is the point to my question as upon reading the instructions it mentioned "if you forget to take a tablet then take one as soon as you remember" but nowhere did it describe the medication as a 'course' of tablets. It got me thinking...

We take them daily (every night before bed), have done for a good nine years now. Originally due to allergies, but the side effect has been a complete elimination of all hayfever and cold symptoms. None of us has had even a sniffle that lasted longer than twelve hours in years. My fiance's immune system isn't up to much due to being born prematurely and he was frequently down with chest infections etc, but has had none taking citirizine daily.
Conversely, my sister, who has hayfever, takes one just when she feels the onset of symptoms (usually irritated eyes), so sometimes she will be taking one daily and other times she will go days or weeks without. Just test the waters and see what works for you. Taking one when symptoms begin should be enough to see you through hayfever season, they're fast acting so will kick in quickly, though continued use won't diminish their effectiveness either so if symptoms persist, try taking them daily.
#16
What an interesting concept. Thank you for posting about it. Some of the reviews are very positive (and funny on Amazon!) and worth further investigation. The 'placebo effect' does get mentioned but hey, if it works it works, right?
#17
Phsycronix
What an interesting concept. Thank you for posting about it. Some of the reviews are very positive (and funny on Amazon!) and worth further investigation. The 'placebo effect' does get mentioned but hey, if it works it works, right?

I think it's like most things sometimes accupuncture works for some people and reflexology works better for other people.

It's completely painless but your family will laugh as makes your nose light up for few minutes until it automatically switches off.

"Red nasal light is said to have an antihistamine effect, acting directly on the membranes within the nose to reduce histamine production.

Put the light emitting probes into the nostrils for three minutes, three to four times a day. A 2008 clinical trial showed 72 per cent of patients had a reduction in symptoms."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2157014/The-hayfever-treatments-really-work.html worth a read has all the information you will find and what may work for you. I know it sounds crazy but when I had hayfever it was so bad I couldn't go out in the fields my eyes just streamed with water and the more I rubbed them got more itchy so the allergy reliever worked for me but not for all (as per reviews) good luck summer here already?! 19c on Sunday oO
#18
rhinopaul
I used to suffer a lot but as Ive got older its no where near as bad. I only use Piriton on an as and when needed basis.
When I used to have a severe attack and the pills wouldnt work I found sticking my nose in the freezer helped , sounds odd but it worked for me.
I used to suffer a lot but as Ive got older its no where near as bad.
Same here
Eating local honey is supposed to help build resistance
I also made jam and still make wine from the hedgerows may have helped

Never a good idea to take pills if you don't need to imo
but they are tiny so take one with you just in case and don't be afraid of the big blue room
#19
Ah well, here's my entry for 'Forum quote of the week' :

"Time to grease myself up and hit the sack."


Damn, my hooter is sore. I'll learn my lesson one of these days. Thanks so far to everyone who has given their knowledge or personal experience. Much appreciated. It's the reason I still like this site - even though they got rid of FS/FT - grrr!

Cheers (and sleep tight) Phsy.
#20
I had about 10 years of my doctor telling me each year that this tablet will help and didn't then next year same again. finally gave me the kenalog injection. wow that made my life so much better. had that for few years but then changed doctors. made appointment to get it at new docs only for them to say they don't give it and haven't for years as it rots hip bone??. sent me to specialist for immunotherapy but tests came back as high for all pollens and said they can only do immunotherapy for 1. He asked my symptoms and past medicines,then gave me telfast fexofenadine hydrochloride 180mg which helps alot but not as good as injection but I value my hip bone and specialist said say bye bye to my hip bone once he heard I was on kenalog
#21
Phsycronix
Dolphinzz
I never have tried any tablets because I only started getting it two/three years ago, but one thing I want to say is "buy aloe Vera tissues". They make noses less sore than normal tissues. Kleenex do them, sometimes in Poundland I think
OMG - tell me about it! Hehe. I made my way through almost four rolls of loo paper (for my nose, not the other end!) and I look like Rudolf! Vaseline a plenty methinks...


:D (close enough to a laughing emoji). I would definitely recommend getting the tissues in that case! I don't normally get it too bad but I've already started getting it this month which is no bueno :(
#22
You should be using everyday to see the effects, I eat my religiously every day without fail I have loratindine
#23
i have tried cetirizine, it worked but benodryl works alot better
#24
I take one everyday until August - you won't need it after that as the pollen isn't there. I used to take cetirizine but now take loratadine, as the cetirizine didn't work well for me anymore.
#26
I suffer from perennial allergic rhinitis...(think hayfever everyday of the year :( ) can only speak for myself but.....
Cetrizine, Loratadine help for mild symptoms
Acrivastane and Xylometazoline spray can help on worse days....... and on a really bad day Beclometasone and fexofenadine usually do the trick....sometimes though nothing will help at all.

It sounds pretty grim but using a Nasal rinse can really help as well ...Amazon sell excellent Neilmed sinus rinse kits. not as bad in reality as you would imagine though.

Try the different hayfever meds one by one (not together ) and hopefully you'll find one that will work for you. Cetrizine and Loratadine as probably the best options If they work for you though as they are available as a cheap unbranded option.
#27
fexofenadine is my every day tablet with cetrizine being my "booster" if I need additional help.
#28
thewongwing101
rhinopaul
I used to suffer a lot but as Ive got older its no where near as bad. I only use Piriton on an as and when needed basis.
When I used to have a severe attack and the pills wouldnt work I found sticking my nose in the freezer helped , sounds odd but it worked for me.
I used to suffer a lot but as Ive got older its no where near as bad.
Same here
Eating local honey is supposed to help build resistance
I also made jam and still make wine from the hedgerows may have helped

Never a good idea to take pills if you don't need to imo
but they are tiny so take one with you just in case and don't be afraid of the big blue room


Eating local honey has absolutely no effect on hay fever. The myth is based on the same principle as homeopathy. The pollen bees collect isn't even the same pollen most people are allergic to, and even worse, eating honey that's unprocessed, as most local stuff is, can cause more serious allergic reactions, especially if you're allergic to bees.
#29
craigstephens
thewongwing101
rhinopaul
I used to suffer a lot but as Ive got older its no where near as bad. I only use Piriton on an as and when needed basis.
When I used to have a severe attack and the pills wouldnt work I found sticking my nose in the freezer helped , sounds odd but it worked for me.
I used to suffer a lot but as Ive got older its no where near as bad.
Same here
Eating local honey is supposed to help build resistance
I also made jam and still make wine from the hedgerows may have helped
Never a good idea to take pills if you don't need to imo
but they are tiny so take one with you just in case and don't be afraid of the big blue room
Eating local honey has absolutely no effect on hay fever. The myth is based on the same principle as homeopathy. The pollen bees collect isn't even the same pollen most people are allergic to, and even worse, eating honey that's unprocessed, as most local stuff is, can cause more serious allergic reactions, especially if you're allergic to bees.
Hence the word
supposed
I can only speak from my experience
frankly I think 'exposing' myself to the pollen rather than shutting myself indoors as people seem do do these days
may have helped
may be a bit obvious but washing your clothes/hair when you get in will help

the other surefire part 'cure' is 'ahem'
move to the seaside
#30
I developed an allergy to tree pollen in my 30s after relocation to a new city. So from late March to early May, I pop a pill daily unless it has rained a bit. The problem is side effects - loratidine gives me a sore throat while cetrizine makes me drowsy. Oh well...
#31
Thanks, Bob Dylan. Those prices look superb and no disrespect but they seem a bit 'too' cheap. I know I'm a bit of a sceptic but it worries me that they can sell you four months worth with free postage for under £3, yet you can buy a year's supply for under £8? The disclaimer about the pills that get sent might be differing ingredients etc. (but still work the same) is also a flag for me. It all just sounds a bit "Arthur Daley(ish)" too me - i.e too good to be true. "Don't worry Son, you'll be fine.....Trust me. Hehe."

I do appreciate your post though as it represents great value for those of a less nervous disposition than me. With a new drug, I'm a bit cautious to begin with so I don't want to order a heap of em' until I've given them a trial run. I got 14 pills from Tesco @ £1.80 a box. Seemed reasonable as they are £1 at Poundland for a box of 7.

If anyone of course has ordered and/or tried these pills from Pharmacyfirst and would care to comment then please do. Any feedback is always appreciated. It's day four for me on these Cetirizine and I've not noticed anything untoward happening. Mind you, I have been waking up later! Maybe they are zonking me out. Hehe.
#32
Phsycronix
Thanks, Bob Dylan. Those prices look superb and no disrespect but they seem a bit 'too' cheap. I know I'm a bit of a sceptic but it worries me that they can sell you four months worth with free postage for under £3, yet you can buy a year's supply for under £8? The disclaimer about the pills that get sent might be differing ingredients etc. (but still work the same) is also a flag for me. It all just sounds a bit "Arthur Daley(ish)" too me - i.e too good to be true. "Don't worry Son, you'll be fine.....Trust me. Hehe."
I do appreciate your post though as it represents great value for those of a less nervous disposition than me. With a new drug, I'm a bit cautious to begin with so I don't want to order a heap of em' until I've given them a trial run. I got 14 pills from Tesco @ £1.80 a box. Seemed reasonable as they are £1 at Poundland for a box of 7.
If anyone of course has ordered and/or tried these pills from Pharmacyfirst and would care to comment then please do. Any feedback is always appreciated. It's day four for me on these Cetirizine and I've not noticed anything untoward happening. Mind you, I have been waking up later! Maybe they are zonking me out. Hehe.

Well to answer your question, I ordered the Cetrizine pills from the link I gave you and have been taking them for about a week now and has stopped the runny nose that I had so all good so far. They are also non drowsy so not had that side effect to contend with either :-)
#33
Phsycronix
Thanks, Bob Dylan. Those prices look superb and no disrespect but they seem a bit 'too' cheap. I know I'm a bit of a sceptic but it worries me that they can sell you four months worth with free postage for under £3, yet you can buy a year's supply for under £8? The disclaimer about the pills that get sent might be differing ingredients etc. (but still work the same) is also a flag for me. It all just sounds a bit "Arthur Daley(ish)" too me - i.e too good to be true. "Don't worry Son, you'll be fine.....Trust me. Hehe."
I do appreciate your post though as it represents great value for those of a less nervous disposition than me. With a new drug, I'm a bit cautious to begin with so I don't want to order a heap of em' until I've given them a trial run. I got 14 pills from Tesco @ £1.80 a box. Seemed reasonable as they are £1 at Poundland for a box of 7.
If anyone of course has ordered and/or tried these pills from Pharmacyfirst and would care to comment then please do. Any feedback is always appreciated. It's day four for me on these Cetirizine and I've not noticed anything untoward happening. Mind you, I have been waking up later! Maybe they are zonking me out. Hehe.

Poundshops/B&M/Home Bargains usually sell Loratadine and Cetrizine tablets quite a bit cheaper than the supermarkets as well
#34
bobdylan
Phsycronix
Thanks, Bob Dylan. Those prices look superb and no disrespect but they seem a bit 'too' cheap. I know I'm a bit of a sceptic but it worries me that they can sell you four months worth with free postage for under £3, yet you can buy a year's supply for under £8? The disclaimer about the pills that get sent might be differing ingredients etc. (but still work the same) is also a flag for me. It all just sounds a bit "Arthur Daley(ish)" too me - i.e too good to be true. "Don't worry Son, you'll be fine.....Trust me. Hehe."
I do appreciate your post though as it represents great value for those of a less nervous disposition than me. With a new drug, I'm a bit cautious to begin with so I don't want to order a heap of em' until I've given them a trial run. I got 14 pills from Tesco @ £1.80 a box. Seemed reasonable as they are £1 at Poundland for a box of 7.
If anyone of course has ordered and/or tried these pills from Pharmacyfirst and would care to comment then please do. Any feedback is always appreciated. It's day four for me on these Cetirizine and I've not noticed anything untoward happening. Mind you, I have been waking up later! Maybe they are zonking me out. Hehe.
Well to answer your question, I ordered the Cetrizine pills from the link I gave you and have been taking them for about a week now and has stopped the runny nose that I had so all good so far. They are also non drowsy so not had that side effect to contend with either :-)
Hi BD. That's good to know. Thanks for taking the time to reply. I'm still in two minds as to whether it's the symptoms that cause my lethargy rather than the pills. I suppose once I've shaken the effects it'll be easier to see if I still feel dopey taking the medication. Happy days...
#35
Little update in case anyone else reads this thread (for research purposes.)

After shopping recently, it would seem £1.80 from Tesco really wasn't that good a deal. I've found Aldi do both Cetirizine and Loratadine in 14's for 89p a pack. Also, if you have a "Savers" store handy, they have 14's for a mere 75p a pack. The brand is Galpharm, same as Poundland who currently have only 7's for a pound, of course.

Still not as good a deal as BobDylan's find @ PharmacyFirst but at least this is a bricks and mortar shop if that means anything to you. At the moment, I feel safer using a product from a shop that has potentially sold millions of these tablets to thousands of customers up and down the country. That's just the way I see it in my head and we all have our quirks, don't we?

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