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Hi guys My daughter is now 8 months, she is getting a little small now for her carseat which she had when she was born, I am looking at rear facing car seat as it is safer, I am struggling to find… Read More
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2y, 6m agoPosted 2 years, 6 months ago
Hi guys

My daughter is now 8 months, she is getting a little small now for her carseat which she had when she was born, I am looking at rear facing car seat as it is safer, I am struggling to find something decent and at a good price, the problem I am facing if I find something I like in the description it states change to forward facing once they are 19kg.. Is this correct? I mean I thought they should be rear facing till age 4. Can any moms help? Thank you.x
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2y, 6m agoPosted 2 years, 6 months ago
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Hi there

Thats great you are looking for a rear facing seat, soon it will be the norm here! The UK is rather behind on rear facing compared to other European countries. I bought my first rear facing seat 4 years ago and there was not that many readily available but much better now. Rear facing to at least age 4 is the recommended safest way.

My children are age 5 yrs and 3 yrs, both rear facing.

My 5 yr old is in Maxi Cosi Mobi and my 3 yr old is in Britax Max- both seats are rear facing to 25 kg, around 6 yrs old. Both seats were £195, however you can get seats for less but they will usually only rear face to age 4...

You should be able to get the Joie Stages for around £125 - rear facing to age 4.

Here is link to a deal for a rear facing seat to age 4, fab price too........
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/britax-max-fix-2-extended-rear-facing-isofix-car-seat-137-mothercare-2096071

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#1
im sure theres a law or rule at a certain point they should not be rear facing.
#2
stage 0+1 car seats are the next step from the newborn one iirc
#3
Hi
Can't really give you any specific advice, only to follow what the advice that goes with the seat says and don't exceed the stated weight for the seat - ie if the max seat weight is 18kg, don't exceed it. A bit like max weight in a lift.... ;-)
Have a read of this website and see if it helps.
Good luck!
http://www.childcarseats.org.uk
#4
rjmjnlcfm
stage 0+1 car seats are the next step from the newborn one iirc


Yes you're right, the ones I have come across say once baby hits 19kg to turn to forwards facing, I thought its up to age 4? It's safer for them to be rear facing.
#5
ktm666
Hi
Can't really give you any specific advice, only to follow what the advice that goes with the seat says and don't exceed the stated weight for the seat - ie if the max seat weight is 18kg, don't exceed it. A bit like max weight in a lift.... ;-)
Have a read of this website and see if it helps.
Good luck!
http://www.childcarseats.org.uk


Thank you!! Will take a read now xx
#6
Shazadi_786
rjmjnlcfm
stage 0+1 car seats are the next step from the newborn one iirc


Yes you're right, the ones I have come across say once baby hits 19kg to turn to forwards facing, I thought its up to age 4? It's safer for them to be rear facing.


I meant 9kg not 19
#7
Try the maxi cosi axis, I love it. You can actually turn it to face you when you open the car door, so you don't need to lift the child too far in.
I had my car seat forward facing from birth and I had a mirror attached to the front seat that helped me see the back seat.
I don't understand what you mean as rear facing till they are four, almost all the kids I see in the car seats in the back are facing forwards, which is towards the front wind screen, unless I have misunderstood your pist
#8
choice4
Try the maxi cosi axis, I love it. You can actually turn it to face you when you open the car door, so you don't need to lift the child too far in.
I had my car seat forward facing from birth and I had a mirror attached to the front seat that helped me see the back seat.
I don't understand what you mean as rear facing till they are four, almost all the kids I see in the car seats in the back are facing forwards, which is towards the front wind screen, unless I have misunderstood your pist


Maybe it's me then, I was told keep them in a rear facing seat till they are 4?
#9
Both of our boys were in rear facing seats until 12 months then they were put in forward facing seats. They both were on booster seats at age 4 and half.

Something is definitely wrong with the information you have received!
#10
go to baby shop like mothercare etc get find seat u like and get them to show u how to fit the chair properly...
#11
docsalokin
Both of our boys were in rear facing seats until 12 months then they were put in forward facing seats. They both were on booster seats at age 4 and half.

Something is definitely wrong with the information you have received!

I'll just leave this here.
#12
Not sure what your budget is, but I have an 11 month old and have just ordered her one of these:

http://www.mothercare.com/Britax-Max-Fix-II---Black-Thunder/627601,default,pd.html

Rear facing until 4 years old with isofix anchor points.
#13
Hi there

Thats great you are looking for a rear facing seat, soon it will be the norm here! The UK is rather behind on rear facing compared to other European countries. I bought my first rear facing seat 4 years ago and there was not that many readily available but much better now. Rear facing to at least age 4 is the recommended safest way.

My children are age 5 yrs and 3 yrs, both rear facing.

My 5 yr old is in Maxi Cosi Mobi and my 3 yr old is in Britax Max- both seats are rear facing to 25 kg, around 6 yrs old. Both seats were £195, however you can get seats for less but they will usually only rear face to age 4...

You should be able to get the Joie Stages for around £125 - rear facing to age 4.

Here is link to a deal for a rear facing seat to age 4, fab price too........
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/britax-max-fix-2-extended-rear-facing-isofix-car-seat-137-mothercare-2096071
#14
You mention changing to forward facing around 18 kg, that would be around age 4, and yes there are many rear facing seats that have that limit on them. There are others that will rear face to 25kg too.
#15
docsalokin
Both of our boys were in rear facing seats until 12 months then they were put in forward facing seats. They both were on booster seats at age 4 and half.

Something is definitely wrong with the information you have received!

Things change over time and at the time when your children were young folk were perhaps not really clued up nor had heard about extended rear facing. Things are changing for the better and more more new parents are made aware of these important things. My eldest is 5 yrs old and while both my children are still rear facing, not many of my friends were aware of it at the time!

Edited By: ellie27 on Dec 28, 2014 09:54: .
#16
ellie27
docsalokin
Both of our boys were in rear facing seats until 12 months then they were put in forward facing seats. They both were on booster seats at age 4 and half.

Something is definitely wrong with the information you have received!


Things change over time and at the time when your children were young folk were not really clued up nor had heard about extended rear facing. Things are changing for the better and more more new parents are made aware of these important things. My eldest is 5 yrs old and while both my children are still rear facing, not many of my friends were aware of it at the time!


Thanks Ellie for confirming all of this, I actually started to think maybe I have the wrong info and was just going to order a forward facing seat, I am currently looking at some but I'm glad you have cleared this up for me! I hope I find something at a decent price. Thanks again x
#17
Shazadi_786

Thanks Ellie for confirming all of this, I actually started to think maybe I have the wrong info and was just going to order a forward facing seat, I am currently looking at some but I'm glad you have cleared this up for me! I hope I find something at a decent price. Thanks again x

No probs. Do have a look online and pick a couple seats in your budget and try go to a store to check for fit. Both seats I have you could not buy online, they had to be bought in a store. When you find one that fits then do shop around online if its sold online.
#18
we have a Britax Maxway which is rear facing up to 25kg or head to top of seat whichever is sooner.

There is a facebook group Rear facing the way forward if you want to search for it plenty of good advice given.

The 18kg limit applies to all seats fitted with isofix so you would be better looking for a belted fixing.

Sorry I cannot provide more links etc as we have just moved and have no Internet yet so struggling with my phone.
#19
It seems to be a trend coming from Scandinavia that rear facing is better for your child in case of a front on impact at 60 miles an you so motorway driving.

In the UK, you need to keep your baby rear facing until 9kg and 9m old.
There is some rules coming in to change this to 12-13m, however car seats manufacturing needs to catch up first.
I have 2 big babies, with eldest he barely lasted pass 9m but was walking by then.
Then we swapped to maxi cosi Tobi, then at 21m into high back booster and just before age 4 into plain booster. He is very tall though!

Car seat guidelines I.e. Lasting until 4y is based on smallest possible child size and all kids are different!
#20
Extended rear facing seat are starting to make it into high street stores, I know mothercare stock a couple. As someone has mentioned, search for 'rear facing - the way forward' they're on Facebook as well. Also check out the In-Car Safety Centre website, they have information on rear facing seats and are very helpful if you want to phone/email. They're based in Milton Keynes if you're anywhere nearby where you can make an appointment and they'll try the seats for you in your car.
#21
Thanks all really appreciate all the replies, definitely going for a rear facing car seat just deciding which one xx
#22
What you are looking for is known as extended rear facing. It's quite common thing in some countries (such as the Netherlands I think) but is starting to make its way over to the uk.
When my son outgrew his baby car seat, I did a LOT of research on it (drove my hubby mad) - I found that rear facing is approx 4 to 5 times safer than forward facing - see here -- http://www.rearfacing.co.uk/facts.php
I found the main reason being that a toddlers neck muscles / spine is not fully developed / fused until approx 3 years of age. Given that the majority of collisions are rear hits this makes rear facing the safest option until your child is 4. This allows for the 18kg limit to be achieved in rear facing seats.
We decided that the best way (for us) would be to choose a rear facing seat that could also be converted to forward facing should you choose to do so at a later date. This does make them a little more pricy but you have the option of changing to forward facing without having to pay out for another seat. As much as I want my son to rear face until 4 if possible, I know kids can have sudden changes of heart about things and if he suddenly protests at being rear facing or grows drastically that he is cramped, I can easily change him to face forward. (He is 22 months now, so far so good with the rear facing - just a note that our son is on the smaller side - being 25th centile so I cannot comment on how good these seats would be for a bigger baby / toddler yet)

When I looked about 12 months ago, the main options I found for these combination seats were:

Joie I-anchor : the car seat plus the isofix base
http://www.mothercare.com/Joie-i-Anchor-i-Size-Combination-Car-Seat/650788,default,pd.html#q=Joie%20I%20anchor

Maxi cosi 2 way pearl : car seat plus isofix base
http://www.mothercare.com/2-Way-Family/2way-family,default,pg.html

Hauck : combination car seat
http://www.mothercare.com/Hauck-Varioguard-Combination-Car-Seat---Black-Grey/870222,default,pd.html#q=Hauck%20seat

The links I have put are just for mothercare but it is worth shopping around (obviously you know that being on a site like this!) I just wanted to link you to the seats I found.

What I would say though is that it may be worth you visiting mothercare as they can offer impartial advice, plus there may be new seats available as its around 12 months since I last research this. They will also be able to tell you which seat will fit your car, as being bigger rear facing seats they do take up quite a bit more space in the back of the car. Having said that I have a tiny Hyundai i10 and the Joie fits fine with the passenger seat pulled slightly forward.
We went for the joie seat in the end as we felt it had the best option for safety, flexibility, reviews and styling. If you do choose mothercare, definitely ask for the best price. We bought the Joie seat at £160, plus two isofix bases at £100 each to allow us to use the seat in both our cars. Should have cost us total of £360. We asked if they could do anything on the price given that we were buying quite a bit in terms of value and the manager kindly gave us 10% off no problem. If you don't ask you dont get!

Hope this helps


Edited By: Suzannzan on Dec 28, 2014 17:42
#23
I got a Koochi forward facing car seat for my daughter a few Decembers ago. My second daughter is using it at the moment. It was from Argos and very strong and robust.

Regarding the forward vs rear facing argument I have to say its the first time I have heard of a child being in a rear facing seat till they are 4.

Drawing on my own experiences all I can say is that your daughter will have a whole new world open up to her once she starts sitting in the forward facing car seat as it means that she will be able to sit up properly and look around at everything rather than travelling backwards all the time!
#24
speedy2014
its the first time I have heard of a child being in a rear facing seat till they are 4.

Drawing on my own experiences all I can say is that your daughter will have a whole new world open up to her once she starts sitting in the forward facing car seat as it means that she will be able to sit up properly and look around at everything rather than travelling backwards all the time!

What a load of tosh! In an extended rear facing seat a child sits up exactly same as a child sits forward facing, however they dont face the back of the front passenger seat so therefore are able to see much much more out the whole back window and side windows.
#25
ellie27
speedy2014
its the first time I have heard of a child being in a rear facing seat till they are 4.

Drawing on my own experiences all I can say is that your daughter will have a whole new world open up to her once she starts sitting in the forward facing car seat as it means that she will be able to sit up properly and look around at everything rather than travelling backwards all the time!

What a load of tosh! In an extended rear facing seat a child sits up exactly same as a child sits forward facing, however they dont face the back of the front passenger seat so therefore are able to see much much more out the whole back window and side windows.

Glad you spotted that too! Plus I think safety is more important than a good view!
#26
Spent A LOT of time reading up on the rear vs foward debate today. Even signed up to Which? They common opinion across Europe and the scandinavian countries is that rearward facing until 4 years/18kgs is 80% safer. Which? also say this and concur that the UK is behind on the regs and are umaware of the safety benefits of rear facing. FYI the Cybex Sirona gets the highest rear-facing score, followed by the 2way pearl. The Joie I Anchor was a "don't buy" according to Which? and they believe it should be avoided.
#27
Rab88
Spent A LOT of time reading up on the rear vs foward debate today. Even signed up to Which? They common opinion across Europe and the scandinavian countries is that rearward facing until 4 years/18kgs is 80% safer. Which? also say this and concur that the UK is behind on the regs and are umaware of the safety benefits of rear facing. FYI the Cybex Sirona gets the highest rear-facing score, followed by the 2way pearl. The Joie I Anchor was a "don't buy" according to Which? and they believe it should be avoided.

I remember reading about the joie one but from recollection a big part of the 'avoid' was due to one of their previous seats (stages) being recalled. We decided we are happy the problem had been fixed. Of course it is good to know though as each parent needs to be happy with the choices they have made.
On a positive note with the joie we have been using it for several months now and our son is very comfy in it, it does have niggles (straps occasionally twist, rebound bar doesn't fully lock into place meaning it comes out when pulled) but nothing we would consider to be a deal breaker.
Of course the only real way to ever know a car seat has truely done its job is in the awful event of an accident - I'm sure every parent out there hopes to never have to find that out for sure.
Thank you - glad someone else has done their research on this as I think my hubby thought I was being a bit obsessive on this subject! Even the manager in mothercare didn't know a massive amount of info on extended rear facing and the new isize regs!

Edited By: Suzannzan on Dec 29, 2014 23:48
#28
Rab88
Spent A LOT of time reading up on the rear vs foward debate today. Even signed up to Which? They common opinion across Europe and the scandinavian countries is that rearward facing until 4 years/18kgs is 80% safer. Which? also say this and concur that the UK is behind on the regs and are umaware of the safety benefits of rear facing. FYI the Cybex Sirona gets the highest rear-facing score, followed by the 2way pearl. The Joie I Anchor was a "don't buy" according to Which? and they believe it should be avoided.

Hi, I'm playing 'paranoid did I buy a bad seat mommy now' - It looks as though which have only reviewed the stages seat, not the I anchor? --
http://www.which.co.uk/baby-and-child/baby-transport/reviews/child-car-seats/joie/
Does it show different as youved signed up to which?
Thank you :-)
#29
Yep, apologies, Joie "Stages" was on the "don't buy" list.
#30
Rab88
Yep, apologies, Joie "Stages" was on the "don't buy" list.

Phew thank you!! :)

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