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Going to be using it a lot for entertainment (not for gaming) and for work purposes. Need it to last a few years at least and less than £450. Min. requirements: 8GB RAM, an SSD, i5 cpu and overall g…
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6m, 1w agoPosted 6 months, 1 week ago
Going to be using it a lot for entertainment (not for gaming) and for work purposes. Need it to last a few years at least and less than £450.
Min. requirements: 8GB RAM, an SSD, i5 cpu and overall good specs.
NOT LENOVO THINKPAD! SORRY
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6m, 1w agoPosted 6 months, 1 week ago
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#1
Lenovo Thinkpad? Buy a refurb, upgrade the RAM, put in an SSD and you've a machine that will last until you finish your degree
#2
Lenovo Thinkpad T450 should be possible in budget
Dell Latitude E7450 again should be doable

Both options would be very good sturdy machines, with great keyboards, that can take being chucked around day to day. Personally, I'd avoid a consumer machine if you want it to survive and be usable for the 3-4 years of your course. Specs wise I'd also add in looking for a 1080p screen because windows snap is a useful function when doing document work as you can type while having the reference material in front of you at the same time.

I'd also advocate getting a cheap external monitor from somewhere like gumtree (a 19 inch screen should be no more than about £20-30) again adding to the flexibility when you have assignments to do.
#3
If you could stretch to £569 every few weeks amazon sell it at this price, and it is amazing

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-20BS00ADUK-ThinkPad-Carbon-Windows/dp/B017LXBAXO/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1471193179&sr=8-5&keywords=thinkpad
#4
I wouldn't touch Lenovo these days, not since they were caught bundling the Superfish malware with their laptops, and then force-installing their adware on clean Windows installations using a BIOS exploit. Go with a Dell or HP business laptop instead, and, obviously, avoid all the consumer-grade tat.
#5
dxx
I wouldn't touch Lenovo these days, not since they were caught bundling the Superfish malware with their laptops, and then force-installing their adware on clean Windows installations using a BIOS exploit. Go with a Dell or HP business laptop instead, and, obviously, avoid all the consumer-grade tat.

Oh look..... no T series effected

https://support.lenovo.com/gb/en/product_security/superfish

I have said this before when someone brought this up, but you might as well cross Dell, HP and every other major PC supplier on the planet if you want to consider found security vulnerabilities a reason to not buy. The press seems to have a bit of a bone to pick with Lenovo because they are a Chinese firm despite that arguably some much more serious flaws have been found in computers made by other manufacturers that amusingly didn't get any mainstream press at all.

http://thehackernews.com/2015/11/superfish-malware-dell.html - Dells own equivalent to Superfish

http://www.itnews.com.au/news/hp-to-revoke-certificate-that-mistakenly-signed-malware-396722 - A HP related certificate flaw

I could go on for days doing this and posting issues and security breaches related to other technology companies that get no air time.
#6
Astec123
dxx
I wouldn't touch Lenovo these days, not since they were caught bundling the Superfish malware with their laptops, and then force-installing their adware on clean Windows installations using a BIOS exploit. Go with a Dell or HP business laptop instead, and, obviously, avoid all the consumer-grade tat.
Oh look..... no T series effectedhttps://support.lenovo.com/gb/en/product_security/superfish
I have said this before when someone brought this up, but you might as well cross Dell, HP and every other major PC supplier on the planet if you want to consider found security vulnerabilities a reason to not buy. The press seems to have a bit of a bone to pick with Lenovo because they are a Chinese firm despite that arguably some much more serious flaws have been found in computers made by other manufacturers that amusingly didn't get any mainstream press at all. http://thehackernews.com/2015/11/superfish-malware-dell.html - Dells own equivalent to Superfishhttp://www.itnews.com.au/news/hp-to-revoke-certificate-that-mistakenly-signed-malware-396722 - A HP related certificate flaw
I could go on for days doing this and posting issues and security breaches related to other technology companies that get no air time.

Have Dell and HP ever pre-installed malware on their laptops, or forced installations of unwanted junk through BIOS exploits?
#7
I've got a Thinkpad T440, it's pretty heavy but it's really solid and well built.
#8
dxx
Astec123
dxx
I wouldn't touch Lenovo these days, not since they were caught bundling the Superfish malware with their laptops, and then force-installing their adware on clean Windows installations using a BIOS exploit. Go with a Dell or HP business laptop instead, and, obviously, avoid all the consumer-grade tat.
Oh look..... no T series effectedhttps://support.lenovo.com/gb/en/product_security/superfish
I have said this before when someone brought this up, but you might as well cross Dell, HP and every other major PC supplier on the planet if you want to consider found security vulnerabilities a reason to not buy. The press seems to have a bit of a bone to pick with Lenovo because they are a Chinese firm despite that arguably some much more serious flaws have been found in computers made by other manufacturers that amusingly didn't get any mainstream press at all. http://thehackernews.com/2015/11/superfish-malware-dell.html - Dells own equivalent to Superfishhttp://www.itnews.com.au/news/hp-to-revoke-certificate-that-mistakenly-signed-malware-396722 - A HP related certificate flaw
I could go on for days doing this and posting issues and security breaches related to other technology companies that get no air time.
Have Dell and HP ever pre-installed malware on their laptops, or forced installations of unwanted junk through BIOS exploits?

Dell please see the previous posting and the link, that was preinstalled root certificate.

Or see....

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3008478/security/and-then-there-were-two-another-dangerous-dell-root-certificate-discovered.html

How about Computrace..... installed in millions of devices as part of the BIOS, Dell, Fujitsu, HP, Lenovo, Samsung, and Toshiba all effected.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/17/kaspersky_computrace/

Do you want a few more?
#9
dxx
I wouldn't touch Lenovo these days, not since they were caught bundling the Superfish malware with their laptops, and then force-installing their adware on clean Windows installations using a BIOS exploit. Go with a Dell or HP business laptop instead, and, obviously, avoid all the consumer-grade tat.

It's not an exploit, it's an intentional feature to allow computer manufacturers to provide the software needed to make any custom features work.

Your rather sensationalist link doesn't give any details of what's being installed, but the forum thread it links to suggest this is Lenovo specific stuff which is precisely the purpose of the feature.

I'm sure the software itself is the usual insecure lowest common bidder mess that is normal system builder software but it doesn't seem to be crapware in the sense of free trials and other stuff solely to increase the OEM's profit margin.

Imagine if manufacturer software was desirable. In these days where you can reinstall windows from the comfort of the settings page and drivers all get installed automatically, people would really want the feature. Imagine if Apple told Macintosh owners that the OS reinstall wouldn't include any other programs and they'd have to go to the Apple website to downloads Photos, iTunes etc. Do you think it would prove popular?

So while you should definitely complain about lousy quality bundled sofware that so many system builders provide, don't confuse the content with the delivery system.

Back on topic you probably will have to look second hand. Even if you're exaggerating your requirement for heavy duty (i.e. semi-rugged/rugged) and just want something good enough to carry around lecture halls and cafes then £450 isn't going to stretch far. You only have to go to a shop website and see how many i5 + 8GB models come in under £450. Chances are it'll be under 10% of them which is the low end of the market by anybody's definition.

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