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hey guys, just wanted to get an idea off people of the pro's and cons of each. not sure to stick plaster boards on the walls and skim them or take the current plaster off to the bare brick and render … Read More
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6m, 4d agoPosted 6 months, 4 days ago
hey guys, just wanted to get an idea off people of the pro's and cons of each. not sure to stick plaster boards on the walls and skim them or take the current plaster off to the bare brick and render skim the whole house?

just looking for opinions off people of what the pros and cons of each are? things I should be wary of?
cost wise, what's the difference?
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6m, 4d agoPosted 6 months, 4 days ago
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#1
There's a reason builders use plasterboard as it's quicker and cheaper.
https://www.homebuilding.co.uk/wet-plaster-or-dry-lining/

Depends on if you want to pay the extra for labour costs and wait a lot longer to finish the job.
#2
I'm presuming as you don't know the cost of materials and potential downsides/upsides of plastering a full room that you have no experience or very limited experience at best so my advice is to leave it well alone and get a tradesmen in to do the job as plastering 'looks easy' but in actual fact its an extremely difficult thing to do which needs plenty practice and good teaching from a pro as there's a very fine art to it .....a small patch job or filling some holes is fine to attempt at diy level but an entire wall/room is a whole new ball game....It will cost around £300-£400 for an entire room including ceiling roughly and if you strip the plaster back to brick and prep room then you cld haggle a bit on the price .. .Good luck if u do have a go tho
#3
You can buy insulated plaster boards, which will keep your house warm. The plaster boards come in various thickness. So you could insulate the house from the inside really well. My brother in law did the same, and says his house is warmer then before. However he only did one side of the house.
#4
Hi guys, don't intend to do the work myself. Getting someone in. Just wondering on the options. I know boarding is quicker but does that mean it's a lesser quality?
#5
EN1GMA
Hi guys, don't intend to do the work myself. Getting someone in. Just wondering on the options. I know boarding is quicker but does that mean it's a lesser quality?


boarding is cheaper, I can't think of a difference once finished, I'm sure someone else will have a reason.
I have always gone for the cheapest, it's just less about intensive and finished quicker you board it.
#6
edit, should read labour intensive
#7
We've taken most rooms in our house and last house back to brick and then dot and dabbed. It is a lot quicker.

Personally I'd rather have had plaster on the walls but the cost difference and time were considerably longer and the finish to look at is identical. The only thing I don't like about plasterboard is the sound of it. If you knock it you got a small hollow sound in some places as there is a tiny (few mm) cavity between the bricks and the board back.

The walls in our current house are straight but the bricks must have been installed by Stevie Wonder as they stick out, don't match, are round the wrong way etc. so plasterboard takes all those inconsistencies away and gives you a mostly flat wall.
#8
Most plasterers will prefer and advise board and skim - it's quick and easy. Few still advise on two or three coat plaster.

Render in sand and cement with waterproof additives was best where damp had been present as board deteriorates when damp.
#9
I used dot and dab in my own home. I do plastering myself as a job. I think it's a better job as less chance of cracks. Better insulation. Cheaper. Quicker. That said, doing it the old fashioned way feels better. More solid.. Guess it's down to cost, size of area and if it's worth spending the extra money on. I never used plasterboard on the original part of my home, only the new kitchen and stairs / landing
#10
My only advice is to make sure you dont employ a plasterer who likes "da weed", as the "After" mid-morning break plaster tends to look like a relief map of the Himalayas.
#11
Gentle_Giant
My only advice is to make sure you dont employ a plasterer who likes "da weed", as the "After" mid-morning break plaster tends to look like a relief map of the Himalayas.


have known a few like that, I've never let them work for me.
#12
Is it your own home and do you intend staying there?
If so, then if you can afford it and don't mind the extra time it takes and more mess, I would go for traditional render and skim.
Dot and dab is quicker and cheaper but I've been in several houses near me, quite recently built, where the plasterboard has come away from the wall... it looks ok but when you touch it the whole wall moves in and out. Also, attaching things to the wall can be a pain because you need a fixing thats long enough to go through the board, across the gap and into the blockwork, and sometimes that gap is quite big.

Edited By: Delbert Grady on Nov 21, 2016 10:39: .
#13
many thanks for all the helpful advice!! yes, its my own house so that's why getting the best option. I am a traditionalist at heart and would love to render and skim the place might have to do room by room basis.

with plaster boards, would you advise a frame and then the boards or just dot and dab the boards on the walls directly? don't mind the extra time it takes to dry. im just looking for a good finish overall. just wanted an idea of the major pros and cons of each.

again, many thanks for the responses and will leave question open for more advice before I close question tonight.
#14
Delbert Grady
Is it your own home and do you intend staying there?
If so, then if you can afford it and don't mind the extra time it takes and more mess, I would go for traditional render and skim.
Dot and dab is quicker and cheaper but I've been in several houses near me, quite recently built, where the plasterboard has come away from the wall... it looks ok but when you touch it the whole wall moves in and out. Also, attaching things to the wall can be a pain because you need a fixing thats long enough to go through the board, across the gap and into the blockwork, and sometimes that gap is quite big.


I seal walls llwith thined Pva first as it can sometimes not stick if dusty or very dry. I spray Pva on. To fix the problem you have seen is easy, drill a 10mm hole and fill with expanding foam. Shouldn't have to do this if is done properly.
#15
EN1GMA
many thanks for all the helpful advice!! yes, its my own house so that's why getting the best option. I am a traditionalist at heart and would love to render and skim the place might have to do room by room basis.

with plaster boards, would you advise a frame and then the boards or just dot and dab the boards on the walls directly? don't mind the extra time it takes to dry. im just looking for a good finish overall. just wanted an idea of the major pros and cons of each.

again, many thanks for the responses and will leave question open for more advice before I close question tonight.


if ur keeping the house for a long time get it all removed and back to walls get a dpc if needs be and possibly rewire if that needs doing at same time I don't like plaster boards they feel cheap and children sometimes make holes in them as they think they are superhuman and can break walls etc sometimes also. as others have said the boards may come loose in the future especially if the walls are not very good, even currently. but best thing would be get a few qoutes for both and see the difference. u can do the first part yourself of taking back to bare walls if u wanted to save on costs though.
#16
o and other thing is if u doing it in 1 go with taking back to walls I wouldn't live at the property whilst having work done
#17
Also if you're thinking of having any extra plug sockets or other cables like ethernet or hdmi etc.. now is the time ;).
#18
shauneco
Also if you're thinking of having any extra plug sockets or other cables like ethernet or hdmi etc.. now is the time ;).

been quoted 4000 for a full rewire of the house. that inclues installation of house alarm, smoke alarms, about 70 double sockets and a number of switches.
#19
EN1GMA
shauneco
Also if you're thinking of having any extra plug sockets or other cables like ethernet or hdmi etc.. now is the time ;).
been quoted 4000 for a full rewire of the house. that inclues installation of house alarm, smoke alarms, about 70 double sockets and a number of switches.
I'm not sure if that's a good price or not, Just make sure you've got everything you require now rather than having to change it later. There might be other things to consider like perhaps led lights? etc.. etc..
#20
muddassarsardar
EN1GMA
many thanks for all the helpful advice!! yes, its my own house so that's why getting the best option. I am a traditionalist at heart and would love to render and skim the place might have to do room by room basis.
with plaster boards, would you advise a frame and then the boards or just dot and dab the boards on the walls directly? don't mind the extra time it takes to dry. im just looking for a good finish overall. just wanted an idea of the major pros and cons of each.
again, many thanks for the responses and will leave question open for more advice before I close question tonight.
if ur keeping the house for a long time get it all removed and back to walls get a dpc if needs be and possibly rewire if that needs doing at same time I don't like plaster boards they feel cheap and children sometimes make holes in them as they think they are superhuman and can break walls etc sometimes also. as others have said the boards may come loose in the future especially if the walls are not very good, even currently. but best thing would be get a few qoutes for both and see the difference. u can do the first part yourself of taking back to bare walls if u wanted to save on costs though.
I've got to ask for the story about what happened to make holes in the walls :3
#21
EN1GMA
shauneco
Also if you're thinking of having any extra plug sockets or other cables like ethernet or hdmi etc.. now is the time ;).
been quoted 4000 for a full rewire of the house. that inclues installation of house alarm, smoke alarms, about 70 double sockets and a number of switches.
70 double sockets ? oO
Phobia of gang extensions ? :)
#22
EN1GMA
shauneco
Also if you're thinking of having any extra plug sockets or other cables like ethernet or hdmi etc.. now is the time ;).

been quoted 4000 for a full rewire of the house. that inclues installation of house alarm, smoke alarms, about 70 double sockets and a number of switches.


seems expensive where abouts are u especially if the plasters going be off and stuff. I recon around 2k to 2.5k.should be a good price for electric work . what about the price for plastering .put a ad on my builder u will be able get good offers in put In a good description of the works needed. same with the plastering. got a few jobs done of mybuilder for a decent price electric full rewire for 1100 in 2011 for a large 4 bedroom house.

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