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suspended2y, 2m agoPosted 2 years, 2 months ago
please can anyone advise

my son had a referral from school to attend an appointment for an assessment... was total of 3 hours with travelling to and fro etc 25 miles each way. I wasn't under the impression that this came off a childs attendance. Our son has been marked lower than 100% and this is the only instance. It wasn't as if we could be offered an evening or weekend appointment anyone else had this happen please or is this the norm. Thanks
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suspended2y, 2m agoPosted 2 years, 2 months ago
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#1
Why does the kid need %100 attendance?
#2
yes
#3
Normal but why worry anyway?
suspended#4
I am not saying he needs 100% I am just asking upon principle ?

As my son has special needs he potentially could have more than 1 appointment in any 1 year does that mean then his attendance could drop to 75% as he needs to attend appointments ?

I am just wondering
#5
It would be a authorised absence , kids sometimes need to have appointments in school times , it ruins their 100% attendance ....it happens , I wouldn't worry about it !

My son would have a 100% attendance if he didn't need to go to his orthodontist appointments but as you imagine they can't give every spotty 13 year old a out of school hours appointment X)

Edited By: OnPoint on Jul 04, 2014 16:19: ..
#6
Depending on if he's in primary or junior school but the attendance rate is usually 95%.

I think you should challenge the school considering the assessment has been requested by them. Or you could take your child to school get him marked in and go to your appointment ( I know, long winded but at least he won't lose his 100% attendance)
suspended#7
he did go to school in the morning hubbie picked him up after lunch 12.30pm and we went to assessment (that the school requested) couldnt go back before school finished as it was 50 mile round trip.. He is in reception
#8
Our school would mark this as a Permitted Absence which would still then come up as 100% attendance. Appointments such as dentist, doctor, clinics etc would be the same. I think it is a pity they have treated him this way as it is nice to end the term on 100% attendance - which we also award with a certificate.
#9
I guess he missed afternoon registration, and so has missed half a day ... you have to sign them out.

Why does it matter if he doesn't get 100%, is there a special certificate or prize for 100% attendance he is going to miss out on?
suspended#10
yes the school gives a 100% certificate makes me mad the school need not worry cause we are taking him out of school next year for a holiday ! so they can mark us down below 95% then the target.
[mod][Mod Team]#11
pinkladyof66
we are taking him out of school next year for a holiday

Why are you worried about his attendance for an appointment? Taking him out of school for a holiday will be far more detrimental to his education than the odd appointment.
banned#12
pinkladyof66
yes the school gives a 100% certificate makes me mad the school need not worry cause we are taking him out of school next year for a holiday ! so they can mark us down below 95% then the target.
why are you whining then? You obviously don't respect or value the education system
#13
AFtwenty
Our school would mark this as a Permitted Absence which would still then come up as 100% attendance. Appointments such as dentist, doctor, clinics etc would be the same. I think it is a pity they have treated him this way as it is nice to end the term on 100% attendance - which we also award with a certificate.

Having worked in the education system for a long time and seen the many different ways that people get marked down for different absences by various members of staff, all I can say is; if more schools marked their pupils correctly in these instances, the Government would spend less time and money on trying to improve school attendances and it would be a win win situation.
#14
I remember in primary school I wasn't given a 100% attendance certificate because on the very last day of the year I was pushed over during the dinner break and broke my arm. I was gutted.
#15
RossD89
I remember in primary school I wasn't given a 100% attendance certificate because on the very last day of the year I was pushed over during the dinner break and broke my arm. I was gutted.

thats horrible
#16
why post here, just write an email to the school secretary.
#17
Any time off for any reason will come off attendance. I wouldn't worry about it.
#18
OnPoint
It would be a authorised absence , kids sometimes need to have appointments in school times , it ruins their 100% attendance ....it happens , I wouldn't worry about it !

My son would have a 100% attendance if he didn't need to go to his orthodontist appointments but as you imagine they can't give every spotty 13 year old a out of school hours appointment X)

I am spotty and I am 19 :pX)
#19
Even if it's authorised I think it'll still affect your overall attendance, but not by that much. If this is a concern I'm sure the school can come to some agreement.
#20
If it was a school referred appointment in our school it would not affect attendance and if made aware they would have maintained the 100% rate. If the school is aware of the holiday form they may have considered it wasn't something you would be fussed about so haven't altered it to show attendance.
#21
We had a similar issue. Apparently schools must register a child absent if they are not present at am or pm registration (this is a requirement of the DfE). When questioning why their attendance was not 100% (hadn't been off sick, just attended a few health appts), we were told that the only way to avoid being marked as absent was to be present for registration then leave for the appt. When we pointed out that this would result in missing lessons rather than registration and assembly they said there was nothing they could do other than advise he missed lessons (to attend the appt) in order to not be marked absent. Crazy!!
#22
Mum2ConnornCerys
Any time off for any reason will come off attendance. I wouldn't worry about it.

But it shouldn't. If it was authorised by the school then it is still classed as attendance. A bit like work, if you are told to work off site you are still working even though you have not clocked in and get paid as normal.

OP, just arrange an appointment with the head and explain everything. I am sure this will be sorted out if you have proof the afternoon session was not logged because of a formal appointment arranged by the school. They should just amend your sons records on the computer and job done.

Hope you get it sorted because I know with kids simple things like this can mean a lot to them.

Good luck, ;)
#23
Rich_The_Fish
We had a similar issue. Apparently schools must register a child absent if they are not present at am or pm registration (this is a requirement of the DfE). When questioning why their attendance was not 100% (hadn't been off sick, just attended a few health appts), we were told that the only way to avoid being marked as absent was to be present for registration then leave for the appt. When we pointed out that this would result in missing lessons rather than registration and assembly they said there was nothing they could do other than advise he missed lessons (to attend the appt) in order to not be marked absent. Crazy!!

Wow just read that.

The problem with today's society is people can't think for themselves and feel they have to go by the book 100%, they are just too scared to use their initiative in case it upsets some pen pusher higher up. Totally nuts, you would think people in education would have the common sense to use their authority and overrule such incidents.

Edited By: NEtech on Jul 05, 2014 14:42

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