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SD card as a permanent storage device on a laptop?

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2y, 4m agoPosted 2 years, 4 months ago
Hi, I recently bought a Sony Vaio Flip which came with a 128gb SSD inside. I don't really want to clutter it up with music/movies/pictures etc. so I was wondering since I have a SD card slot, could I use an SD card (around 64gb-ish) as a permanent storage device on the laptop? If so, what should I look for when buying the SD card? Is it a good method for what I would use it for (storage)? Thanks.
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2y, 4m agoPosted 2 years, 4 months ago
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#1
So what will you use the storage for if it's not for movies and music?

An ssd, as I'm sure you are aware will read/write data much faster than an sd card

It's like buying a fast car, then using a bike as you don't want to get your car dirty
#2
Why not buy a bigger ssd, using an sd card would be nonsensical or use a cloud based storage.
#3
benjammin316
So what will you use the storage for if it's not for movies and music?

An ssd, as I'm sure you are aware will read/write data much faster than an sd card

It's like buying a fast car, then using a bike as you don't want to get your car dirty
The laptop came with a lot of premium applications that I'd like to keep but it takes a good chunk out of the 128gb, leaving me with around 58gb of space (after vaio/windows updates). I'd like to install more of my own applications which would eat up more space. Does an SSD perform slower if it's 80-90% full? I can't remember remember where I read that, so I don't know if it's exactly true. Might look into a 256gb SSD in future, but at the moment I'm just looking to save space on the 128gb SSD.

Edited By: 0racle on Jul 19, 2014 12:46
#4
Yes you can use your SD card slot for additional storage and it's probably a sensible option

With SSD yes they are faster but what is best practice is reducing write/rewrite thereby increasing it's longevity (lifetime)

I have my OS and software on my SSD and anything else (including browser history/temp files) on my hard drive (in your case SD card) There is no real benefit in having media files, docs, on an SSD except that by storing them elsewhere will improve longevity of SSD
#5
Yes but buy a 128gb sd card
#6
philphil61
Yes you can use your SD card slot for additional storage and it's probably a sensible option

With SSD yes they are faster but what is best practice is reducing write/rewrite thereby increasing it's longevity (lifetime)

I have my OS and software on my SSD and anything else (including browser history/temp files) on my hard drive (in your case SD card) There is no real benefit in having media files, docs, on an SSD except that by storing them elsewhere will improve longevity of SSD
markhuges
Yes but buy a 128gb sd card
dcx_badass
We've just done this, got the 128gb sd card deal which arrived this morning. Then 128gb ssd for apps, 128gb sd card for files.
Thanks. Yeah I will aim to put all the files I regularly create/delete on the card to increase the lifespan of the SSD. Will look into a 64/128gb card online. Do you have any recommendations on which one to buy in terms of read/write speeds and reliability?


Edited By: 0racle on Jul 19, 2014 13:26
#7
0racle
philphil61
Yes you can use your SD card slot for additional storage and it's probably a sensible option

With SSD yes they are faster but what is best practice is reducing write/rewrite thereby increasing it's longevity (lifetime)

I have my OS and software on my SSD and anything else (including browser history/temp files) on my hard drive (in your case SD card) There is no real benefit in having media files, docs, on an SSD except that by storing them elsewhere will improve longevity of SSD
markhuges
Yes but buy a 128gb sd card
dcx_badass
We've just done this, got the 128gb sd card deal which arrived this morning. Then 128gb ssd for apps, 128gb sd card for files.
Thanks. Yeah I will aim to put all the files I regularly create/delete on the card to increase the lifespan of the SSD. Will look into a 64/128gb card online. Do you have any recommendations on which one to buy in terms of read/write speeds and reliability?


No recommendations for you - IMHO depending on your system I doubt you will see much speed difference (for the geek of course they will explain all but honestly most everyday users can use any class as it's being used for storage).
#8
philphil61

No recommendations for you - IMHO depending on your system I doubt you will see much speed difference (for the geek of course they will explain all but honestly most everyday users can use any class as it's being used for storage).
Just checked the manual of the laptop. It says it supports SDXC and Ultra High Speeds upto 128gb. I'm looking around for 64/128gb that fits that description across the internet. Found a few. I'd be mainly using to access my music through Spotify, watch movies through VLC etc. to save space on the SSD.

Edit: can't justify buying a 128gb SD card (costs around £60 atm), would rather buy a 256gb SSD in the future. Will look for 64gb ones, they're about £25-30 atm :)




Edited By: 0racle on Jul 19, 2014 15:38: edit
#9
dcx_badass
I bought the 128gb 600x one in deals for £30. I bought two, going to speed test and error check it this evening.
Ah nice! Do let know me know what results you get, thanks.
#10
0racle
dcx_badass
I bought the 128gb 600x one in deals for £30. I bought two, going to speed test and error check it this evening.
Ah nice! Do let know me know what results you get, thanks.
If you do get an SD card remember to back up your music, if the card gets corrupted you will have lost all your music otherwise.
#11
dereklogan7
0racle
dcx_badass
I bought the 128gb 600x one in deals for £30. I bought two, going to speed test and error check it this evening.
Ah nice! Do let know me know what results you get, thanks.
If you do get an SD card remember to back up your music, if the card gets corrupted you will have lost all your music otherwise.
I make sure that every music file I have on my laptop, is on my phone too :)
#12
0racle
benjammin316
So what will you use the storage for if it's not for movies and music?

An ssd, as I'm sure you are aware will read/write data much faster than an sd card

It's like buying a fast car, then using a bike as you don't want to get your car dirty
The laptop came with a lot of premium applications that I'd like to keep but it takes a good chunk out of the 128gb, leaving me with around 58gb of space (after vaio/windows updates). I'd like to install more of my own applications which would eat up more space. Does an SSD perform slower if it's 80-90% full? I can't remember remember where I read that, so I don't know if it's exactly true. Might look into a 256gb SSD in future, but at the moment I'm just looking to save space on the 128gb SSD.
surely your apps just get loaded into memory when you run them so keep them on your SD card (except memory resident programs). Its your video files and others accessed frequently you want on the SSD.

and you can delete the windows updates cache once they are installed. Just create a dos batch file and stick this in it and run it. Cleared about 10GB of HDD space for me.

net stop wuauserv
CD\
CD %Windir%
CD SoftwareDistribution
DEL /F /S /Q Download
net start wuauserv

Edited By: chocci on Jul 19, 2014 17:40
#13
chocci
[quote=0racle]
surely your apps just get loaded into memory when you run them so keep them on your SD card (except memory resident programs). Its your video files and others accessed frequently you want on the SSD.

and you can delete the windows updates cache once they are installed. Just create a dos batch file and stick this in it and run it. Cleared about 10GB of HDD space for me.

net stop wuauserv
CD\
CD %Windir%
CD SoftwareDistribution
DEL /F /S /Q Download
net start wuauserv
Yeah might eventually do that. Will most likely run spotify through SD card as that seems to build up a large directory within the AppData folder. I'm assuming due to the recovery files that came with the laptop is occupying a lot of space inside the SSD. I have created a USB recovery device, but will need to get my hands on a optical drive to create disc backups before I delete the recovery media (19-24gb).

I cleared most caches, starting from the windows store cache to the windows update one, but the latter only freed 95mb for me. Most likely because it's a new laptop, although I did install about 1.6-2gb worth of windows updates. Thanks for the tip though!

dcx_badass
It's legit and nice and fast (probably limited by my card reader):

Test finished without errors.
You can now delete the test files *.h2w or verify them again.
Writing speed: 33.7 MByte/s
Reading speed: 60.0 MByte/s

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Komputerbay-Secure-Digital-Extended-Capacity/dp/B00CX8SJDM/

Got mine for £26.48 from Flubit.
That's actually quite decent for the price! Decent write/read speeds too. Although, I'm not too familiar with the brand, it does have good reviews. I have been looking at a 80/40MB/s 64gb transcend card that has more or less great reviews without any lost data issues according to people. Will decide what I eventually buy at the end in the morning :) Thanks.

Edited By: 0racle on Jul 21, 2014 01:44
#14
dcx_badass
It's legit and nice and fast (probably limited by my card reader):

Test finished without errors.
You can now delete the test files *.h2w or verify them again.
Writing speed: 33.7 MByte/s
Reading speed: 60.0 MByte/s

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Komputerbay-Secure-Digital-Extended-Capacity/dp/B00CX8SJDM/

Got mine for £26.48 from Flubit.
Eventually went it for this SD card. I will test it once I get it and post results. Hopefully it doesn't fail on me down the line. Thanks.
#15
Well I did receive the 128gb SD card and it's a legit one. Just found out that my built-in card reader may be limited to speeds upto 50MB/s even though it supports SDXC (UHS-I) cards, so I'm receiving 38MB/s write speeds and 45MB/s read speeds which I'm happy with. Did buy a transcend 64gb 90MB/s card as well the day after to double check, and that gave me 42MB/s write speeds and 45MB/s read speeds. In one of the US sites for Sony, the specs of the laptop states UHS sdr50 for the card reader whatever that means, which I'm guessing is a max speed of 50MB/s.

Edit: read/write speeds of the two cards I had tested with: http://postimg.org/image/5w81psv3x/full/

Edited By: 0racle on Jul 24, 2014 15:06
#16
0racle
Yeah I will aim to put all the files I regularly create/delete on the card to increase the lifespan of the SSD.

Why are you planning to keep the SSD for the next hundred years?

While it's true their lifespan is determined by the number of times they get written to, it's not short enough that you need to do anything to increase it. It'll easily outlast that laptop, and several replacement laptops besides.

Edited By: EndlessWaves on Jul 25, 2014 15:46

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