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Should I upgrade my Graphics card

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I have a Asus Crosshair IV Formula with a AMD 6 core 3300ghz phenom 11 (which I believe is the top CPU I could put in an AMD3 board) with a nvidia gtx 560 ti. Would I get much improvement by just upgr… Read More
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8m, 2d agoPosted 8 months, 2 days ago
I have a Asus Crosshair IV Formula with a AMD 6 core 3300ghz phenom 11 (which I believe is the top CPU I could put in an AMD3 board) with a nvidia gtx 560 ti. Would I get much improvement by just upgrading the gpu to this or should I update the motherboard and CPU as well. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated
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8m, 2d agoPosted 8 months, 2 days ago
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#1
I was looking at this
#2
Is that a 3.3Ghz turbo (1055T) or 3.3Ghz base clock (1100T)? The latter is the fastest AM3 CPU, although that board does have beta support for FX-81## CPUs:
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/CROSSHAIR_IV_FORMULA/HelpDesk_CPU/

A GPU upgrade with certainly boost performance in a fair number of games but others would be limited by the CPU.

The RX 470 is a good choice, and you'd get the extra smoothness of freesync when you next bought a new monitor.
#3
Upgrading everything would obviously be better . But I would of thought anything up to 480 or 970 wouldn't be bottlenecked at all . So depends on budget and what you want to play / what resoulution
#4
I use this site to gauge upgrades:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gpu-hierarchy,review-33383.html

As it says, you won't notice any great benefit unless the card you are looking to buy is at least 3 tiers above your current card. As your 560ti is in the 11th tier, you stand to gain a lot from moving up to a better card. What you may find soon though, is that your CPU creates the performance bottleneck. That too is getting pretty old.

My advice - unless you have enough money to replace the CPU, motherboard and GPU, just replace the GPU. It ought to bring you increased performance, however that CPU and mobo will still limit the most recent mid to top tier GPU's.

My recommendation - get a GTX 960 for the power and quiet benefits it brings. If you want sheer power at a cheaper price, get the 470 you mentioned.

Edited By: Hypertension on Nov 17, 2016 16:22
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Hypertension
My recommendation - get a GTX 960 for the power and quiet benefits it brings. If you want sheer power at a cheaper price, get the 470 you mentioned.

There's only a 15W difference between them, barely 10%. You'll see far more noise variation between individual coolers on different brands of cards then between the two as a whole.
#6
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/amd-radeon-rx-470,review-33625-7.html

AMD cards are so power inefficient in comparison - see the review for details - Just playing a BluRay disc created enough noise to be noticeable and annoying. No aftermarket cooler is going to make that noise go away.

Compare that to the GTX - They had to move the microphone 2 inches away as the noise was imperceptible:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/msi-geforce-gtx-960-gaming-2g,review-33260.html#p8

You have a good point though, because to some the extra benefit of raw processing power is king. To myself it has to be a balance of silence and power, which is why I bought the GTX970. Most of the time my fans don't even spool up!
#7
Hypertension
Compare that to the GTX - They had to move the microphone 2 inches away as the noise was imperceptible:http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/msi-geforce-gtx-960-gaming-2g,review-33260.html#p8

It's clearly a completely different test setup between the reviews, everything from the meter, to the distance, to the surroundings, to the case. Those numbers aren't exactly comparable between reviews.

They also specifically say that the Asus card is badly set up and recommend that Asus modify it. If you look at other reviews then you'll find that the Asus 470 produces loud results in comparison to other 470s, for example techpowerup found it 6dBA louder than the reference card's blower, which itself didn't get great reviews for quietness:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_470_STRIX_OC/23.html

Or if you look at somewhere like Kitguru that has reviewed multiple 470s you'll find the Asus one is the noisiest:
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/msi-rx-470-gaming-x-8g-review/27/

It's card manufacturer that determines volume, not chipset. For example you've got the 970 at the top of that chart and the 980 at the bottom despite the 980 putting out more heat.

I'm not sure why Tom's Hardwares blu-ray results are that high. Maybe they were using OpenCL/MadVR or some other heavy post-processing, from the same review as above Techpowerup found it using 16W to play back a blu-ray which is in-line with what you'd expect:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_470_STRIX_OC/22.html
#8
EndlessWaves
Is that a 3.3Ghz turbo (1055T) or 3.3Ghz base clock (1100T)? The latter is the fastest AM3 CPU, although that board does have beta support for FX-81## CPUs:https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/CROSSHAIR_IV_FORMULA/HelpDesk_CPU/
A GPU upgrade with certainly boost performance in a fair number of games but others would be limited by the CPU.
The RX 470 is a good choice, and you'd get the extra smoothness of freesync when you next bought a new monitor.
It is the 1100t black. I can't seem to update the bios to the latest firmware for the FX-81## CPUs and it says AMD+ next to it which makes me think it won't be compatible or even a great improvement over what I have already. Thanks for all the replies I think I will try the 470 from amazon
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EndlessWaves
Is that a 3.3Ghz turbo (1055T) or 3.3Ghz base clock (1100T)? The latter is the fastest AM3 CPU, although that board does have beta support for FX-81## CPUs:https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/CROSSHAIR_IV_FORMULA/HelpDesk_CPU/
A GPU upgrade with certainly boost performance in a fair number of games but others would be limited by the CPU.
The RX 470 is a good choice, and you'd get the extra smoothness of freesync when you next bought a new monitor.
It is the 1100t black. I can't seem to update the bios to the latest firmware for the FX-81## CPUs and it says AMD+ next to it which makes me think it won't be compatible or even a great improvement over what I have already. Thanks for all the replies I think I will try the 470 from amazon
Honestly I wouldn't bother. I upgraded from the 1100t black edition to a FX8350 and it's total crap for gaming. I also wouldn't recommend the CPU without watercooling or a big evo 212 heatsink/fan. It's good for applications but dire in single core operation. People are always talking about how newer games are using more and more cores but if you have a load of older games you're throwing money away. Best option is to go for a cheap 2nd hand i5 cpu+mobo and grab a 2nd hand GTX 960.
#10
It all depends on what games you play, some stress the cpu more than the gfx.

Have you tried o/c'ing the cpu?? I have my 1090T running at 3.775GHz after a basic overclock, temps have gone up a bit, but not a huge amount, from 40-45 to 50-55 under max load; from what I have read, 4.2 is possible with air cooling and even more with a watercooler set-up.

The RX470 (OC'ed MSI version), is supposed to be much quieter and much better than the stock AMD review copy Toms hardware had to play with, reaching only a few fps less than the RX480.

Just remember you wont get the full benefit of a new card, because you only have PCIE v2, not PCI3 v3 slots, about a 10% performance hit.
#11
EW - Your last post was interesting https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_470_STRIX_OC/22.html

It seems Techpowerup rated the power efficiency of the GTX 960 as around 40-200% better than that of the 470 (depending on load). Unfortunately it doesn't measure the 960 for noise...
#12
Hypertension
EW - Your last post was interesting https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_470_STRIX_OC/22.html
It seems Techpowerup rated the power efficiency of the GTX 960 as around 40-200% better than that of the 470 (depending on load). Unfortunately it doesn't measure the 960 for noise...

Your figures and definitions are both off there.

The page you linked to is power consumption, not power efficiency (that's the performance per watt page). The GTX 960 is less efficient not more. Even compared to the poor Asus version, the GTX 960 consumes 72% as much power but only delivers 67% of the performance. Work out the numbers for the reference 470 and the GTX 960 delivers just 70% of the performance for 86% of the power consumption.

To put it the other way around, the RX 470 delivers 23% higher fps per watt.

As for power consumption, your minimum percentage is way-off unless you're using the Asus card and your higher percentages are for lower power levels so correspond to only small actual amounts of 4W and 8W. Even when going full whack the difference in gaming is 16% or just 15W.

And if you're suggesting a 4GB GTX 960 then the extra memory will add 1-2W.
#13
Or this for £150?

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