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Speeding fine - Question

nick1981 Avatar
2y, 10m agoPosted 2 years, 10 months ago
Well after a long busy day at work - returned home to a pink notice of intended prosecution from South Yorkshire Police.

The notice tells me i was doing 35mph in a 30mph area.

Does anyone know the amount i'm likely to be fined?

Also is it at their discretion as to if you are offered to go on one of those speed awareness courses to avoid points on a licence ?
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2y, 10m agoPosted 2 years, 10 months ago
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#1
3 points £60 fine most probable outcome if you accept fixed penalty and have clean licence
#2
South York Police (especially Sheffield) is 'hungry', want your money. leave car at home & use public transport :-)
You will be fined £60/- + 3 penalty points. Yes speed awareness course is offered at their own discretion.
Sorry to hear that you have lost £60/ (or 65 if you are offered speed awareness course).
#3
Speed awareness course is offered if you haven't done one in the last 2/3 years I believe. In West Yorkshire the courses are £75, but for the extra £15 you avoid the points on your license
#4
I got fined £100 and 3 points, 35 was within the threshold for a speed awareness course but that varies between police divisions
#5
The speed awareness course is their option,if you agree to go on it and attend,you don't have points added to your licence, it remains just that,for two years you can't be caught speeding and do another course.You would then be fined and points added.
The course in Lincolnshire is £80 odd pounds.It's all a rip off! I was "caught" doing 34 in a 30 near to the 40 sign by a hand held machine my passenger and I did not see him and there is a low wall nearby which he could have been "standing" by.
They are supposed to be in full plain view of the public and in high viz clothing.
If mine was near a school or parked cars busy street I could understand it and would approve but not when my wife sees and clocks one of their "community vans doing,you guessed it 34 in a 30 zone!!!.
#6
I think theres few people who can say hand on heart that in a 30mph zone they religiously keep to 30.

However i wont waste the energy to dispute the case.

It sure is a bitter end to the day - ah well i can go to work next few days now to pay for it.
#7
Take the awareness. course. if you can because. you have. to disclose. conviction. to your. insurance. company. This. will more. than likely. to increase. your. premium
I thought. the fine was £100
#8
nick1981
I think theres few people who can say hand on heart that in a 30mph zone they religiously keep to 30.

However i wont waste the energy to dispute the case.

It sure is a bitter end to the day - ah well i can go to work next few days now to pay for it.

totally agree and the police themselves dont stick to speed limits when its not an emergency.
#9
I have also had similar .... Crossing from 40 to a 30 and they now regularly haunt the same spot.
I did the speed awareness course as the extra money was worth the saving when renewing my insurance as you don't have any points to advise insurance so save money on car insurance policy .
#10
some insurers ask if had a course now too so be aware when renewing
#11
Chatz
Take the awareness. course. if you can because. you have. to disclose. conviction. to your. insurance. company. This. will more. than likely. to increase. your. premium
I thought. the fine was £100

I. Think. Your. Keyboard. Is. On. The. Fritz
#12
fine is £100
#13
nick1981
I think theres few people who can say hand on heart that in a 30mph zone they religiously keep to 30.

However i wont waste the energy to dispute the case.

It sure is a bitter end to the day - ah well i can go to work next few days now to pay for it.

I thought you were 'allowed' a leeway of 10% on top of the speed limit? So this is all for 2 mph? I feel for you, I would be pretty miffed. Since all the cameras that are about now I do try to stick to the limit but it is easy to creep over it. I think a lot of people's attitude to tickets is if you do get one you have to consider all the times that you didn't.
Apt user name though. :p
#14
Usually it's 10% + 2 mph so 35 in a 30mph zone seems bad luck, put your query to these guys there's some good advice on there.
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?act=idx
#15
Sorry but does a 'long busy day at work' change the fact that you were caught speeding?

I do have sympathy, but it seems like you are just adding that as if to say you are above the law somehow due to your work commitment?
#16
I think the OP is saying that he returned home after a long, busy day and found the ticket waiting for him.

Ergo he sped on an earlier day, when he may not have worked long and hard.

His situation on arriving home to find the notice suggests tired resignation, and he asks a simple question or two.

Cut him some slack.
#17
therealpmuk
I think the OP is saying that he returned home after a long, busy day and found the ticket waiting for him.

Ergo he sped on an earlier day, when he may not have worked long and hard.

His situation on arriving home to find the notice suggests tired resignation, and he asks a simple question or two.

Cut him some slack.

You may be right, and I do have sympathy, but usually the speeding police will come on here and state the obvious, mind you, the speedo would probably have been more like 40 when OP was caught, most of the time they show a faster speed than you are actually travelling.
#18
Speaking from recent experience of the driver referral thing.

If you have had no previous speeding convictions in the last 3 years and are within the bracket of eligible speeds (which I'm certain you will be) you will be offered the course or a fixed penalty or court at your choice.

Now. A sp30 ticket is £100 and 3 points.

The course (Derbyshire) is £92 and no points. The cost can vary. But the outcome is the same. No points. No conviction.

Court. Take your chances. But they'll have your pants down.

Fill out the nip. They'll write back with an offer of the course. Job done. Don't dawdle as they can withdraw the offer if you take too long.
#19
South Yorkshire Speed Awareness Course

Go with an open mind and it's fine, put it down to experience and move on.

Having 3 points is no big deal, and most people these days do, but what happens if you get caught again? Your insurance will cost you more for starters.

It's a con, it's a money making exercise, it's driver education. It doesn't matter what you think. Turn up, pay up, shut up, and walk away with a clean licence and no inflated insurance premiums. IMO.

Arthur Scargill - Remember him? Lucky me, I was on the same course on the day with Arthur Scargill couple of years ago. Sounded like a nice bloke but gave me the impression as a know it all banging about his wealth & his house in the South of France & kept interrupting with questions of technicality of speeding with the speaker. Don't think he agreed been caught out. X)
#20
I did a course a little while, worth it to keep insurance and does make you look at your driving.

Re insurers asking about courses, the guys running the course told us they're explicitly not allowed to ask that so tell them to sod off and/or report them
#21
Ive got 3 points on my licence for doing 34 in a 30, I was offered the course but was so angry at the time and was too stubborn to do the course so just paid the fine, which was £60. I regret being a silly beggar and not taking the course cause there are implications such as when you come to fill out an application form for a job which requires a company car, then theres insurance etc.

Luckily it hasn't caused me too much hassle so having 3 points is no biggy but at the same time it can be a hindrance so I recommend taking the course if offered. But too answer your question directly id expect your fine to be £60.
#22
Thanks guys, some realistic and sensible advice.
#23
Reminds me I have to book my course. Its cheaper than the fine I guess. 37 in a 30. I didn't know it was 30 as there is no speed signage. I thought is was probably 40 as it was a dual carriageway with industrial units. I queried this and they just stated that it was a built up area with street lighting at less than 200ft apart so it is automatically 30 unless otherwise stated. First time in 16 years driving.
#24
nick1981
I think theres few people who can say hand on heart that in a 30mph zone they religiously keep to 30.

However i wont waste the energy to dispute the case.

It sure is a bitter end to the day - ah well i can go to work next few days now to pay for it.
money can be earned back. the points are the worst bit.u have them for 5 years ithink plus u have to say on ny application form ascriminal offence or convictions. better not look for a new job soon.
#25
mrwhitelabel
some insurers ask if had a course now too so be aware when renewing

I did a speed awareness course last year and was told if you declare that you had done a course they have been known to give you a discount on your insurance not an increase
#26
Takeaway driver Ala Udin not banned with 29 penalty points

Driver with 45 points not banned
Driver with 39 points not banned

oO Nothing new here. :( Just goes to show that hard working folks out there who can follow & abide the driving laws of this country at best they can but these hypocrites think they can get away easy with lame excuses.

Any jobs that don't involve driving? Take a bus/train/cycle/walk to work?

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