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I have the OP3 dual SIM phone and currently on Three mobile (the rest of the family is also on Three). What I would like is a standby SIM other than Three in case of been stuck in areas which Three do… Read More
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5m, 1w agoPosted 5 months, 1 week ago
I have the OP3 dual SIM phone and currently on Three mobile (the rest of the family is also on Three). What I would like is a standby SIM other than Three in case of been stuck in areas which Three does not have coverage so I can still make/receive calls.

I'm looking at PAYG, but have a couple of questions:

* Does the allowance (talk, text and data) have a limited life?

* Recommendation of a good PAYG SIM with good coverage also.

** Just to further extend my intention. My whole family is currently on Three mobile, my concern is if the area we are visiting has no Three signal, then I have a stand-by SIM in case. Thanks for all the replies so far. **

Thanks in advance.
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5m, 1w agoPosted 5 months, 1 week ago
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I'd recommend O2 Classic Pay As You Go
5p/min/text/MB.

As the second slot is probably 2G only, you won't be able to use Tello or any other Three based network.

I'd recommend O2 in the second slot over any EE based network because Three and EE have pretty much identical 3G network coverage as they share each other's masts thanks to MBNL. An O2 or Vodafone based SIM would provide a good backup for the very few areas you can't pick up a signal from an MBNL mast.

And before people start going on that Delight Mobile offer cheaper rates at 3p/2p/1p, remember that Delight will wipe all your credit after a short while, regardless of whether you've used it or not. O2 top up credit lasts forever, as long as you make a chargeable call or send a text at least once every six months.



Edited By: preecey on Jan 11, 2017 10:36

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#1
Does the OP3 allow a memory card and second SIM at sane time? if yes, I'd go EE or one of the services that use the EE network. Plenty of links on HUKD as to what best deals are.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hukd-sim-only-thread-cheapest-sim-only-deals-free-sim-offers-2481975

Yes they are time limited, usually 3-6 months if you don't use and/or top up.

Edited By: dothedealnow on Jan 11, 2017 09:21: hotukd link
#2
try a giffgaff SIM, you can keep some credit on the account and as long as you make a chargeable call or text every six months or so then it keeps active. just don't bother with a goodybag!
#3
I use PAYG 3 and Asda PAYG in dual sim.
#4
I've had a Tesco SIM for almost 8 months. Topped up £20 initially and very very occasionally send a text or call. As above, I think most PAYG sims will require you to have some sort of activity in a 6 month period
#5
Can anyone recommend a decent sim with at least 200 SMS per month? Not bothered about calls or data as it's going to replace my house alarm sim card; so I just need something that sends mega cheap SMS messages and doesn't expire credit wise at the end of the month.

*cheapest I could find was Tello, who charge £4pcm for unlimited SMS, 100 mins/100mb.

Edited By: Scorpion on Jan 11, 2017 09:39
#6
dothedealnow
Does the OP3 allow a memory card and second SIM at sane time? if yes, I'd go EE or one of the services that use the EE network. Plenty of links on HUKD as to what best deals are.http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hukd-sim-only-thread-cheapest-sim-only-deals-free-sim-offers-2481975
Yes they are time limited, usually 3-6 months if you don't use and/or top up.


Thanks for the reply. I don't have a memory card for the OP3, so the other slot is free for another SIM.

Thanks for the link to the SIM deal, I'll have a thorough browse over that later.
#7
Op3 doesn't allow memory card using one myself
Other slot can only be used for sim
Using three contract n giffgaff now
#8
I'd recommend O2 Classic Pay As You Go
5p/min/text/MB.

As the second slot is probably 2G only, you won't be able to use Tello or any other Three based network.

I'd recommend O2 in the second slot over any EE based network because Three and EE have pretty much identical 3G network coverage as they share each other's masts thanks to MBNL. An O2 or Vodafone based SIM would provide a good backup for the very few areas you can't pick up a signal from an MBNL mast.

And before people start going on that Delight Mobile offer cheaper rates at 3p/2p/1p, remember that Delight will wipe all your credit after a short while, regardless of whether you've used it or not. O2 top up credit lasts forever, as long as you make a chargeable call or send a text at least once every six months.



Edited By: preecey on Jan 11, 2017 10:36
#9
Scorpion
Can anyone recommend a decent sim with at least 200 SMS per month? Not bothered about calls or data as it's going to replace my house alarm sim card; so I just need something that sends mega cheap SMS messages and doesn't expire credit wise at the end of the month.

*cheapest I could find was Tello, who charge £4pcm for unlimited SMS, 100 mins/100mb.
Tello won't work in your alarm system as they use Three, and Three doesn't permit the use of their SIMs in 2G devices.
#10
Scorpion
Can anyone recommend a decent sim with at least 200 SMS per month? Not bothered about calls or data as it's going to replace my house alarm sim card; so I just need something that sends mega cheap SMS messages and doesn't expire credit wise at the end of the month.

*cheapest I could find was Tello, who charge £4pcm for unlimited SMS, 100 mins/100mb.
Go here to compare all Pay As You Go network prices:

https://payg-petef.rhcloud.com

Remember Three, iD, The People's Operator and Tello won't work in an alarm system

Edited By: preecey on Jan 11, 2017 10:42
#11
This is almost a solution looking for a problem?
Would one not usually:-
Use a work SIM in slot 2
or
Use a sim optimized for the country you may be holidaying in
or
Use a combination of SIMs to provide best value for money?

I don't recall ever being in a situation where having a 2nd SIM in another network would have been anything more than "it's there so I'll use it" rather than a necessity.

each to his/her/combo own though I suppose, if its there why not use it for c£20 a year.
#12
preecey
Tello won't work in your alarm system as they use Three, and Three doesn't permit the use of their SIMs in 2G devices.
Thanks that's very very helpful !
#13
EE has the best coverage.
#14
Bigfootpete
EE has the best coverage.
Very very true, but the OP is using an MBNL based network already, and as a backup it's best that they use a Vodafone/O2 based network so they have the best of both worlds (MBNL is a mast sharing partnership between Three and EE - basically wherever you get 3G from Three you'll get 3G from EE and vice versa).


Edited By: preecey on Jan 11, 2017 10:54
#15
preecey
Bigfootpete
EE has the best coverage.
Very very true, but the OP is using an MBNL based network already, and as a backup it's best that they use a Vodafone/O2 based network so they have the best of both worlds (MBNL is a mast sharing partnership between Three and EE - basically wherever you get 3G from Three you'll get 3G from EE and vice versa).



Unless OPs Mrs is expecting, he is carrying the UKs nuclear codes, or is dealing illicit substances (joke) its a solution looking for a problem.......
#16
preecey
I'd recommend O2 Classic Pay As You Go
5p/min/text/MB.
As the second slot is probably 2G only, you won't be able to use Tello or any other Three based network.
I'd recommend O2 in the second slot over any EE based network because Three and EE have pretty much identical 3G network coverage as they share each other's masts thanks to MBNL. An O2 or Vodafone based SIM would provide a good backup for the very few areas you can't pick up a signal from an MBNL mast.
And before people start going on that Delight Mobile offer cheaper rates at 3p/2p/1p, remember that Delight will wipe all your credit after a short while, regardless of whether you've used it or not. O2 top up credit lasts forever, as long as you make a chargeable call or send a text at least once every six months.

Thanks preecey, that was a valuable information to have, so I may look into the O2/Vodafone route and do a little reading on this.
#17
dothedealnow
preecey
Bigfootpete
EE has the best coverage.
Very very true, but the OP is using an MBNL based network already, and as a backup it's best that they use a Vodafone/O2 based network so they have the best of both worlds (MBNL is a mast sharing partnership between Three and EE - basically wherever you get 3G from Three you'll get 3G from EE and vice versa).
Unless OPs Mrs is expecting, he is carrying the UKs nuclear codes, or is dealing illicit substances (joke) its a solution looking for a problem.......
I disagree.
Say you're on the motorway and your main network loses signal, and you really really need to make a phone call, having a second SIM in your dual SIM phone that's ready to use as a backup on a different network straight away is an absolute godsend.

I've been there a couple of times and it's an absolute joy. I sometimes lost Three signal but often had a couple of bars of TalkTalk (Vodafone) signal so could still make those vital calls.


Edited By: preecey on Jan 11, 2017 11:07
#18
if I'm broken down? I press the SOS button on my car and it calls breakdown for me.

There is nothing so urgent in life that you can't wait a couple of minutes to get a signal....

Solution looking for a problem.

Mist likely scenario is that your phone battery is dead, you forgot your charger so 2nd SIM no use. That's when I'd get my old charged Nokia out if the boot with its EE Sim in. :D
#19
preecey
dothedealnow
preecey
Bigfootpete
EE has the best coverage.
Very very true, but the OP is using an MBNL based network already, and as a backup it's best that they use a Vodafone/O2 based network so they have the best of both worlds (MBNL is a mast sharing partnership between Three and EE - basically wherever you get 3G from Three you'll get 3G from EE and vice versa).
Unless OPs Mrs is expecting, he is carrying the UKs nuclear codes, or is dealing illicit substances (joke) its a solution looking for a problem.......
I disagree.
Say you're on the motorway and your main network loses signal, and you really really need to make a phone call, having a second SIM in your dual SIM phone that's ready to use as a backup on a different network straight away is an absolute godsend.
I've been there a couple of times and it's an absolute joy. I sometimes lost Three signal but often had a couple of bars of TalkTalk (Vodafone) signal so could still make those vital calls.

That pretty much explains my need for the stand-by SIM. Thanks.
#20
@preecey, according to this, it seems that the 2nd slot supports 4G as well. Sorry it's not to correct you, just wanted to find out for myself :).
#21
On the OP3 both slots support 4G and you can allocate what services the phone uses of which SIM.....

Oh and good luck with the pregnancy, nuclear codes or calls from your mum that are so important (joke) :D when you are in the c2% of the country that three doesn't cover......
#22
dothedealnow
On the OP3 both slots support 4G and you can allocate what services the phone uses of which SIM.....
Oh and good luck with the pregnancy, nuclear codes or calls from your mum that are so important (joke) :D when you are in the c2% of the country that three doesn't cover......
There are other reasons for opting for a backup SIM in a dual SIM phone.

Take data for example. If you're on Vodafone or O2, and travel away from a town or city centre (like in the countryside), the likelihood is that you'll only get GPRS data, which is useless. If your main SIM is on either of those networks, an MBNL based SIM in the second slot will very likely be able to provide a reliable 3G connection even in remote locations.

Edited By: preecey on Jan 11, 2017 12:50
#23
preecey
dothedealnow
On the OP3 both slots support 4G and you can allocate what services the phone uses of which SIM.....
Oh and good luck with the pregnancy, nuclear codes or calls from your mum that are so important (joke) :D when you are in the c2% of the country that three doesn't cover......
There are other reasons for opting for a backup SIM in a dual SIM phone.
Take data for example. If you're on Vodafone or O2, and travel away from a town or city centre (like in the countryside), the likelihood is that you'll only get GPRS data, which is useless. If your main SIM is on either of those networks, an MBNL based SIM in the second slot will very likely be able to provide a reliable 3G connection even in remote locations.

Thanks Preecey, marked as best answer :).
#24
dothedealnow
On the OP3 both slots support 4G and you can allocate what services the phone uses of which SIM.....

Oh and good luck with the pregnancy, nuclear codes or calls from your mum that are so important (joke) :D when you are in the c2% of the country that three doesn't cover......

Thanks for confirming dothedealnow.

My surname is Trump.. so be careful with what you're saying ;). Have a nice day!!
#25
dothedealnow
if I'm broken down? I press the SOS button on my car and it calls breakdown for me.

And if you break down somewhere where the SIM your SOS button relies on doesn't have a signal?

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