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My Freind is here this evening and very upset doesn't want to post this on her account, she lives in a 3 bed privately rented home with partner and two children, he has said he is leaving for good tom…
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2m, 1w agoPosted 2 months, 1 week ago
My Freind is here this evening and very upset doesn't want to post this on her account, she lives in a 3 bed privately rented home with partner and two children, he has said he is leaving for good tomorrow! She has a job but no where near enough to pay it and other bills on her own. They are on no benefits, what can she do?
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2m, 1w agoPosted 2 months, 1 week ago
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hitmanx
what an idiot putting his kids in that position
sorry but with hardly any info on why he is leaving , the only idiots are the people blaming him without knowing anything

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#2
she should be able to get help towards rent and council tax unless she earns a ridiculous amount of money. best bet is citizens advice to be honest they will tell her everything she is entitled to.

just a bit of other advice try to get a council house as they are cheaper and are a lot more secure as a private landlord could decide to sell up at any time.
#3
also the direct gov website use to have a benefits calculator to tell you how much you are entitled to. hope this helps.
#4
She could possibly receive tax credits then should be able to get something towards the rent & council tax from her local council.
#5
Also if he is the partner ,he can't just avoid responsibility for her and the kids ,whether they are his or not . CAB are the first call who will advise on solicitors etc for the best course of action. I'm sure this is a lot more complicated than you would let on , but its not a blame game at this stage its ensuring the kids have a roof and a loving home .
#6
Lets not miss the point that it might be a joint tenancy agreement which he will of signed as well. He will be responsible for the rent as well even if he doesn't live there until he gets himself removed from tenancy agreement.
#7
make an appointment with citizens advice straight away, contact council tax and housing and fill in application forms as she may be able to receive some help now that she is on her own, but these things take time so apply asap, they can only say yes or no... they can also make a discretionary payment once the process has been gone through. so still worth it even.if they say no. christians against poverty or Step change can help her list her finances and budget what she can, they will priorities your income and outgoings and basically tell companies who is getting paid and who isn't. the advantage of this is that the companies accept their decision, but rarely are cooperative when they deal with you on your own, so they will advocate for free on your behalf. in addition when they priorities your debts, they always put rent first because it's vital... personally I recommend Christians against poverty because they can access additional fund raising for necessities such as food and transport, so go beyond the paperchase remit. However step change are also good. just can't get that personally involved beyond the paperwork. whatever happens, don't do nothing... get the forms applied for and the help appointments made, regardless of it being Xmas, because when it comes to sorting out rent with the landlord you can say..... I've applied for benefit and I've got Cap advocating for me, so it's much harder for them to be difficult and it stops them becoming personal, because they have to deal with professional bodies. please tell your friend to keep fighting, I, myself moved 2 years ago in an emergency house swap away from domestic violence. I moved on the 23 Dec, I was ill, on benefits due to ptsd and I only got 4 days notice to move. But I did all of the above. I got proper organic advocate on my behalf so I couldn't be bullied and so I could get on with rebuilding my life. I wish her lots.of luck and best wishes. I realise this is not a time when she will want to deal with these authorities but stay focused, build a new life on good solid foundation not borrowing and debt and the future will take care.of itself. hope it helps, Amanda
#8
Also, not immediately but if the poo hits the spinner then contact shelter. You cannot evict children from a house privately rented or or not if they have no where to go. Friend of mine lost 5 months rent as woman and kids in his house couldn't pay (same situation as ops friend) and shelter got involved and he couldn't evict them until the council found them a place, and they didn't pay the rent either.
#9
Speak to her council - they can help. Citizens Advice are also extremely helpful. Personally I'd inform your landlord he/she has an interest in resolving your friends' situation.


Edited By: mousebillhicks on Dec 12, 2016 01:32
#10
Thanks. Looks like CAB her best bet.
#11
He sounds like a right peach leaving her in the lurch at this time of year . Haven't any better advice than already given but sounds like she is better off without him unless there is another side to the story . She needs to deal with it now though not bury her head in the sand and just stop paying for things . Banks utilities etc can be much more helpful if you show you are helping yourself and actively seeking a solution
#12
Tell him to man the f up and be a father and take care of his kids and their mother. Short of that, I have nothing else useful to contribute, sorry!
#13
darkrev
make an appointment with citizens advice straight away, contact council tax and housing and fill in application forms as she may be able to receive some help now that she is on her own, but these things take time so apply asap, they can only say yes or no... they can also make a discretionary payment once the process has been gone through. so still worth it even.if they say no. christians against poverty or Step change can help her list her finances and budget what she can, they will priorities your income and outgoings and basically tell companies who is getting paid and who isn't. the advantage of this is that the companies accept their decision, but rarely are cooperative when they deal with you on your own, so they will advocate for free on your behalf. in addition when they priorities your debts, they always put rent first because it's vital... personally I recommend Christians against poverty because they can access additional fund raising for necessities such as food and transport, so go beyond the paperchase remit. However step change are also good. just can't get that personally involved beyond the paperwork. whatever happens, don't do nothing... get the forms applied for and the help appointments made, regardless of it being Xmas, because when it comes to sorting out rent with the landlord you can say..... I've applied for benefit and I've got Cap advocating for me, so it's much harder for them to be difficult and it stops them becoming personal, because they have to deal with professional bodies. please tell your friend to keep fighting, I, myself moved 2 years ago in an emergency house swap away from domestic violence. I moved on the 23 Dec, I was ill, on benefits due to ptsd and I only got 4 days notice to move. But I did all of the above. I got proper organic advocate on my behalf so I couldn't be bullied and so I could get on with rebuilding my life. I wish her lots.of luck and best wishes. I realise this is not a time when she will want to deal with these authorities but stay focused, build a new life on good solid foundation not borrowing and debt and the future will take care.of itself. hope it helps, Amanda
You sound like you have come through a lot and dealt with it well . Massive respect. Well done you
#14
thank you x
#15
Get tax credits.
#16
what an idiot putting his kids in that position
#17
hitmanx
what an idiot putting his kids in that position
sorry but with hardly any info on why he is leaving , the only idiots are the people blaming him without knowing anything
#18
if she can face it definitely tell her to apply for housing benefit from her council tomorrow to get the ball rolling on getting her some help towards paying her rent. At the same time request a discretionary housing payment form which is like a bit extra on top of any housing benefit she may get. Apply for tax credits. Tackle sorting her own income tomorrow and then get to CAB to tackle her ex and trying to get some money out of him. Any child maintenance type arrangement is income that is disregarded for housing benefit purposes. Good luck to her, can't imagine how she must be feeling
#19
wozukSilencer
hitmanx
what an idiot putting his kids in that position
sorry but with hardly any info on why he is leaving , the only idiots are the people blaming him without knowing anything

A "man" who walks out on children he has been responsible for - his or not - without seeing to their support is not a man but a child. If on the tenancy agreement he is also liable for the rent.

First thing to do is call tax credits The main telephone number is the tax credit helpline: 0345 300 3900 (textphone 0345 300 3909).The helpline is open 8am-8pm, Mondays to Fridays, 8am-4pm on Saturdays (closed Sunday, Christmas Day, Boxing Day and New Year's Day). Report change of circumstances.

Then phone council about council tax.

Then contact CAB or similar and see what advice they can offer.

She must continue to pay rent or be evicted. Council may not offer much help if "intentionally" homeless and not paying rent can be counted as intentionally homeless. They may provide accommodation as children are involved but not necessarily near her work and it may be a b&b.

Other thing she can do is manage with 2 rooms and let the 3rd bedroom.
#20
Get her to bang her details into the calculator here

http://www.entitledto.co.uk

That'll tell you what help she will get. Does he realise he'll get shafted first loads of child maintenance? Might be worth a mention.

Are any of the kids disabled or suffer from learning difficulties etc? If so start a DLA claim for them too.
#21
rogparki
Also if he is the partner ,he can't just avoid responsibility for her and the kids ,whether they are his or not . CAB are the first call who will advise on solicitors etc for the best course of action. I'm sure this is a lot more complicated than you would let on , but its not a blame game at this stage its ensuring the kids have a roof and a loving home .


​If they're not his kids that's total crap, you're only responsible for one's with your name on the birth certificate. I'm sure that's not the case here though.
#22
I know charity won't be a long-term solution but if you set up a gofundme.com account I will happily put in and share the story on social media.

Hopefully charity links aren't banned on hukd?
#23
darkrev
make an appointment with citizens advice straight away, contact council tax and housing and fill in application forms as she may be able to receive some help now that she is on her own, but these things take time so apply asap, they can only say yes or no... they can also make a discretionary payment once the process has been gone through. so still worth it even.if they say no. christians against poverty or Step change can help her list her finances and budget what she can, they will priorities your income and outgoings and basically tell companies who is getting paid and who isn't. the advantage of this is that the companies accept their decision, but rarely are cooperative when they deal with you on your own, so they will advocate for free on your behalf. in addition when they priorities your debts, they always put rent first because it's vital... personally I recommend Christians against poverty because they can access additional fund raising for necessities such as food and transport, so go beyond the paperchase remit. However step change are also good. just can't get that personally involved beyond the paperwork. whatever happens, don't do nothing... get the forms applied for and the help appointments made, regardless of it being Xmas, because when it comes to sorting out rent with the landlord you can say..... I've applied for benefit and I've got Cap advocating for me, so it's much harder for them to be difficult and it stops them becoming personal, because they have to deal with professional bodies. please tell your friend to keep fighting, I, myself moved 2 years ago in an emergency house swap away from domestic violence. I moved on the 23 Dec, I was ill, on benefits due to ptsd and I only got 4 days notice to move. But I did all of the above. I got proper organic advocate on my behalf so I couldn't be bullied and so I could get on with rebuilding my life. I wish her lots.of luck and best wishes. I realise this is not a time when she will want to deal with these authorities but stay focused, build a new life on good solid foundation not borrowing and debt and the future will take care.of itself. hope it helps, Amanda


Nothing but admiration for you - great advice
#24
A quicker response than CAB use a website called entitledto it's a government website put a few details in will tell you to the penny any help she can receive. Good luck x
#25
ThePasty
Also, not immediately but if the poo hits the spinner then contact shelter. You cannot evict children from a house privately rented or or not if they have no where to go. Friend of mine lost 5 months rent as woman and kids in his house couldn't pay (same situation as ops friend) and shelter got involved and he couldn't evict them until the council found them a place, and they didn't pay the rent either.
Every sympathy to the lady and kids in this situation but also for the landlords too as they are only trying to make a living too.
Some really good advice above.

Edited By: ciderno1 on Dec 12, 2016 08:35
#26
hitmanx
​what an idiot putting his kids in that position

hitmanx
​got to go with the info I have... He said he's going to walk out tomorrow? Shows exactly what you need to know.

There is nowhere near enough info to know "exactly what you need to know. " The OP does not say the kids are "his", they may or may not be. And for all we know the man may have caught his partner in a compromising position with the window cleaner (for the fifth time...) The "leaving for good" suggests there is previous history between the two but there is nothing in the OP to warrant the "man" being called an idiot and/or at blame. The man may well be the worst partner ever to exist but neither you or I have any info to substantiate that.
#27
Job centre as well maybe if children over 5.
As others said tax credits, council and citizens advice.
Good luck
#28
As others have said, not enough info. Are they his children? How long have they been in a relationship?
Are they both on the same page with regards to their status? She may regard it as a serious relationship, but he may not. He may be doing the right thing by not sharing Christmas with them; perhaps he doesn't want to be be a father figure at this special family time.
#29
pinkprincess1983
Job centre as well maybe if children over 5.
As others said tax credits, council and citizens advice.
Good luck
Thought they had stopped kids cleaning chimneys. oO
#30
dereklogan7
pinkprincess1983
Job centre as well maybe if children over 5.
As others said tax credits, council and citizens advice.
Good luck
Thought they had stopped kids cleaning chimneys. oO
Lol well chimneys need cleaning before santa arrives :)
banned#31
As a single adult, you get a 25% reduction in the council tax. The only other advice I have would be to earn more money.
#32
give these a call its free
http://rightsofwomen.org.uk/get-advice/
#33
buzzard
wozukSilencer
hitmanx
what an idiot putting his kids in that position
sorry but with hardly any info on why he is leaving , the only idiots are the people blaming him without knowing anything

A "man" who walks out on children he has been responsible for - his or not - without seeing to their support is not a man but a child. If on the tenancy agreement he is also liable for the rent.

First thing to do is call tax credits The main telephone number is the tax credit helpline: 0345 300 3900 (textphone 0345 300 3909).The helpline is open 8am-8pm, Mondays to Fridays, 8am-4pm on Saturdays (closed Sunday, Christmas Day, Boxing Day and New Year's Day). Report change of circumstances.

Then phone council about council tax.

Then contact CAB or similar and see what advice they can offer.

She must continue to pay rent or be evicted. Council may not offer much help if "intentionally" homeless and not paying rent can be counted as intentionally homeless. They may provide accommodation as children are involved but not necessarily near her work and it may be a b&b.

Other thing she can do is manage with 2 rooms and let the 3rd bedroom.


​agreed
#34
you don't get it do you... he should at least make sure that the kids are in a stable position... all people want to do is argued on here for attention
#35
should have made sure kids are in a stable position so the mother wouldn't have to ask a friend to post something on here... do you not get that
#36
I was in a similar situation 2 years ago, i worked 16hrs and had an almost 2 yr old son. My partner and i separated for roughly 3 months due to family stress (my son is disabled) .. anyway, i immediately filled out housing benefit forms, alerted tax credits and checked up on moneysavingexpert.co.uk to check what i was entitled to. Your friend could qualify for an emergency loan/payment if things are bad enough. Get her on the council list, the housing is so much cheaper (our house is about £350 cheaper than other private 3 bed houses in my town), she might not ever get an offer but being on it is better than nothing! She will be entitled to help with council tax - single person reduced price. She should also get working/child tax credits if she works and has the children on her own, depending on how much she earns it's likely she will get something. You might want to help her do it all, make a checklist of who you have to inform and as soon as this man leaves get it done. It was horrible for me when i went through it and put it off for a week, she needs to get it done asap and if you could help her do it it would be so much help for her and would take some of the stress off. It's such a horrible time to happen and the breaking up of a family is never pleasant, but she needs to get all of this sorted out and find out her financial situation asap so she can plan for her future and hopefully reduce the stress. Good luck to her and the children through all of this, i hope it's as easy as possible for them all :(
#37
GrantG182
Tell him to man the f up and be a father and take care of his kids and their mother. Short of that, I have nothing else useful to contribute, sorry!
If only! x
#38
She has just read through them all and we are grateful for so many responses. Sorry for lack of info 15 year relationship and both their Children. No she wasn't with the window cleaner but had to smile at that comment, he how ever was straying and has chose his new bird! Thanks all.
#39
WonkyDoctor
As a single adult, you get a 25% reduction in the council tax. The only other advice I have would be to earn more money.
Would you please explain how to earn more money when she will be having the Children herself 7 days a week with no family around to do childcare or unable to afford childcare. Sure she would love to earn mega bucks but that isn't very easy right now.
banned#40
louisebarker
WonkyDoctor
As a single adult, you get a 25% reduction in the council tax. The only other advice I have would be to earn more money.
Would you please explain how to earn more money when she will be having the Children herself 7 days a week with no family around to do childcare or unable to afford childcare. Sure she would love to earn mega bucks but that isn't very easy right now.

If she's really desperate for the money, she'll find a way. Those that don't, make excuses.

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