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What would you do if a first aider was undermined by another first aider at work in front of an injured party and other work colleagues? Read More
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2y, 9m agoPosted 2 years, 9 months ago
What would you do if a first aider was undermined by another first aider at work in front of an injured party and other work colleagues?
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2y, 9m agoPosted 2 years, 9 months ago
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banned#1
Trust your gut and do what you think is right. Question the persons reason for undermining you.
banned#2
Spit in his sandwiches when he's not looking. But that's just me.
#3
leelee6781
Trust your gut and do what you think is right. Question the persons reason for undermining you.

What I think is right is to step down as a first aider as I feel people would have lost faith in my ability to deal with an emergency even though I dealt with the situation in the correct way.
[mod][Mod Team]#4
Depends entirely on whether or not they were correct
#5
were they right with the knowledge they applied in the first aiding?
#6
Did the First Aider who 'undermined' the other make the correct decision on how to deal with the injured person? :{

If not and it was just done to aggravate, tell the person to have a quiet word with them first to let them know that they did not agree with the manner in which it was dealt with - see if it could be sorted out that way before taking it any further.

...and Toast :)
banned#7
MrToast
leelee6781
Trust your gut and do what you think is right. Question the persons reason for undermining you.

What I think is right is to step down as a first aider as I feel people would have lost faith in my ability to deal with an emergency even though I dealt with the situation in the correct way.

Sounds a bit like a hissy fit tbh.
banned#8
#9
A guy at work today had his wedding ring rip through his finger, I was the first first aider at the accident, I was dealing with the injury in the correct manner. I had a bandage in my hand ready to strap up the injury until the ambulance arrived when another first aider come over and just took over got there own bandage and proceeded to strap his hand up.

I was dealing with the situation and felt that the other person felt the need to intervene with no explanation, later today they thanked me for my help infront of everyone and took the praise for helping the guy.

Maybe I am over reacting.

Edited By: MrToast on Jul 29, 2014 17:52
#10
MrToast
What would you do if a first aider was undermined by another first aider at work in front of an injured party and other work colleagues?

Say nothing, race home and ask the misk population of a shopping bargains site?
banned#11
MrToast

Maybe I am over reacting.

you got it.
#12
What was the problem in detail?
Was the initial FA'der wrong/Was the 2nd one right? or were they both right and it was a difference of opinion on how to come to the same conclusion?
#13
toshapetriji
MrToast
leelee6781
Trust your gut and do what you think is right. Question the persons reason for undermining you.

What I think is right is to step down as a first aider as I feel people would have lost faith in my ability to deal with an emergency even though I dealt with the situation in the correct way.

Sounds a bit like a hissy fit tbh.

How does it sound like a hissy fit when the other person made me look like I dont know hope to act in an emergency, make me look inadequate as a first aider.
#14
MrToast
A guy at work today had his wedding ring rip through his finger, I was the first first aider at the accident, I was dealing with the injury in the correct manner. I had a bandage in my hand ready to strap up the injury until the ambulance arrived when another first aider come over and just took over got there own bandage and proceeded to strap his hand up.

I was dealing with the situation and felt that the other person felt the need to intervene with no explanation, later today they thanked me for my help infront of everyone and took the praise for helping the guy.

Maybe I am over reacting.

I didn't know it was you, you were asking for :D

Well if you did feel undermined the very fact that they praised you after shows that they were grateful, maybe you're just having a bad(ish) day X)
banned#15
MrToast
toshapetriji
MrToast
leelee6781
Trust your gut and do what you think is right. Question the persons reason for undermining you.

What I think is right is to step down as a first aider as I feel people would have lost faith in my ability to deal with an emergency even though I dealt with the situation in the correct way.

Sounds a bit like a hissy fit tbh.

How does it sound like a hissy fit when the other person made me look like I dont know hope to act in an emergency, make me look inadequate as a first aider.

because your reaction was this.

What I think is right is to step down as a first aider

Just don't apply for a job in A&E please.
#16
mclovin9091
What was the problem in detail?
Was the initial FA'der wrong/Was the 2nd one right? or were they both right and it was a difference of opinion on how to come to the same conclusion?

No the initial one, me, was doing everything correctly, the second should have been there too assist.
banned#17
I feel a thread backfire coming on..
#18
Well if the injured person gets a infection or something, makes a complaint and the other 1st aidier dealt with it, not your problem lol.
#19
KillFelix
I feel a thread backfire coming on..

I have been on misc too long to care :D
banned#20
MrToast
mclovin9091
What was the problem in detail?
Was the initial FA'der wrong/Was the 2nd one right? or were they both right and it was a difference of opinion on how to come to the same conclusion?

No the initial one, me, was doing everything correctly, the second should have been there too assist.

Well then between the pair of you, you did a great job. Be happy no one died. The next one will be yours.
banned#21
MrToast
KillFelix
I feel a thread backfire coming on..

I have been on misc too long to care :D

My Spidey senses are tingling. Just be prepared for it haha ;)
[mod][Mod Team]#22
Sounds like you were more concerned about being in the spotlight over the well-being of the injured person.
#23
BeerDrinker
Sounds like you were more concerned about being in the spotlight over the well-being of the injured person.

It has nothing to do with that, I was dealing with the injury in the first place, that was my concern.
#24
MrToast
A guy at work today had his wedding ring rip through his finger, I was the first first aider at the accident, I was dealing with the injury in the correct manner. I had a bandage in my hand ready to strap up the injury until the ambulance arrived when another first aider come over and just took over got there own bandage and proceeded to strap his hand up.

I was dealing with the situation and felt that the other person felt the need to intervene with no explanation, later today they thanked me for my help infront of everyone and took the praise for helping the guy.

Maybe I am over reacting.

tbh sounds like you must have been a bit slow?

if you assessed and hadn't yet bandaged before the other guy got his bandage out and did it then they saved some blood loss?
you should have had the bandage on before they managed to go and get one, standing up for your 'patient' is part of looking after them so should have taken charge.
#25
stepping down means the other one was correct
#26
fawkes99
stepping down means the other one was correct

How so?
#27
By the sound of your initial explanation in #9, it may well have been that the other first aider didn't even know you had a bandage ready - after all, you have said that you hadn't applied it - maybe they thought you were applying pressure or elevating the injury to minimise blood loss and they decided to step in with the bandage?

Whichever way it was, and to be honest we may never get to the bottom of this saga without the other first aiders explanation, I think you are maybe making a mountain out of a very small, but perhaps bloody, molehill.
#28
I wouldn't even be bothered as it would have nothing to do with me so why would I be.
#29
MrToast
A guy at work today had his wedding ring rip through his finger, I was the first first aider at the accident, I was dealing with the injury in the correct manner. I had a bandage in my hand ready to strap up the injury until the ambulance arrived when another first aider come over and just took over got there own bandage and proceeded to strap his hand up.

I was dealing with the situation and felt that the other person felt the need to intervene with no explanation, later today they thanked me for my help infront of everyone and took the praise for helping the guy.

Maybe I am over reacting.

Honestly from my point of view, I can see how you are disappointed however maybe you are overreacting a little.

You probably have better things to worry about, so don't let it get to you and just move on! Your friends and colleague will not think any less of you and if they do, well more fool them!

Edited By: joshp on Jul 29, 2014 19:01
#30
Hell if thats all it is, all you need to worry about is; Am i going to be sue'ed? and seen as the answer is most likely no then forget it.
#31
MrToast if you enjoy being a first aider, don't step down, that would really be a shame and a waste of the training you have received. I think you should have a quiet word with the other first aider, explain that you were actually in the process of dealing with the casualty and were about to apply a bandage, when he came and took over. Tell him that you felt somewhat undermined by this and you would appreciate if in future he would assist rather than taking over. You can tell him this in a nice gentle manner. He sounds like a pushy type, so he should be able to take being told to know his place in a nice manner. I know it will probably feel awkward to do this but maybe do it when you are both in the same area rather than go looking for them specifically. If you don't, they might do it again and it might make you look incompetent to any staff in the vicinity. ugh, pushy people!
#32
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#33
The main thing is that the injured person got correct first aid - that should always be the number one priority and you should feel good that you and the other first aider did that, however pushy they appear.
I guess you aren't in it for the glory, and just remember that your work colleagues may depend on your skills one day.
#34
Op, I'd give yourself a couple of days for the emotion you have to cool down. Re assess how you feel in a weeks time.
#35
I learnt a long time ago never take on these jobs like first aider or fire warden or colleague reps. The reason the person done it was because the person was an ass hole. Let it go let it go turn away and slam the door.
#36
I'd demand compensation. You've been made to look a fool in front of your peers and as a result are suffering from the trauma of it all.


Maybe put the news on the TV, have a look at people in other countries with actual problems, then realise your being pathetic and get on with your life.

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