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8y, 9m agoPosted 8 years, 9 months ago
Moving into a flat with laminate floors in hall and lounge plus carpets in bedrooms. Need a vacuum suitable for both types of floors. Doubtless the new 'ball' cleaners from Dyson recommended by Which? are good but minimum of £230. Does anyone have any suggestions please. I tend to prefer uprights, just because that is what our family have always been used to!
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8y, 9m agoPosted 8 years, 9 months ago
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I know that you've expressed a preferance for an upright, but I still have to recommend a Henry. There is a good reason why you see them used to clean shops and in Centreparcs and even in my old Halls of Residence at Uni (many years ago!) - they are bloody good, and will last for ages. We got one just before Christmas and it's been fantastic. It's less than half the price of the Dyson and will last much longer. I'm sure their will be some who disagree, but I KNOW that there will be plenty who agree.
#3


I'm sorry I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one, we had an upright VAX before we got the Henry, and it was appalling on hard floors. I know that it wasn't the same model and so I shouldn't really compare, but the rotating brush on uprights are just no good for hard floors. Also, the reviews on Amazon look less than favourable!
#4
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Numatic-HVR200-22-Henry-Vacuum-Cleaner/dp/B00008Z9XZ/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=gateway&qid=1202660574&sr=8-1

I think you must agree that the reviews are somewhat more positive. I know it's not bagless or fancy but it does the job, and it does it very very well.
#5
Mike73
I'm sorry I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one, we had an upright VAX before we got the Henry, and it was appalling on hard floors. I know that it wasn't the same model and so I shouldn't really compare, but the rotating brush on uprights are just no good for hard floors. Also, the reviews on Amazon look less than favourable!


The unfavourable reviews are by people who have developed a fault with their product, same can happen with any brand. There are also highly praised reviews for it from those people; like me, who have a perfect one with no faults at all. It does what it says on the tin.
#6
I bought a Bissell Lift Off a couple of months back, it did better in reviews than all the dysons and I managed to find it for £99 inc. postage.
I have been really impressed with it, would definately recoomend it. My husband did loads of research and this one definately came out on top! It's fantastic with laminate and carpet, we have both.
#7
i have a vax its great also had a dyson what a pain to take apart to wash out the cyclon to many parts to go wrong
#8
esclad
The unfavourable reviews are by people who have developed a fault with their product, same can happen with any brand. There are also highly praised reviews for it from those people; like me, who have a perfect one with no faults at all. It does what it says on the tin.


I'm not saying it's bad, but if 2 out of 3 reviews on Amazon are regarding faulty vacuums then perhaps it's not the most reliable. We've been through loads of vacuums in the last 10 years and the Henry seems to be by far the most solidly built one and the best one that we've had. My parents have been through about the same number - including 3 dysons (I don't know why they still bother!)

Also, like I said, having used an upright on hard floors, I've now realised that they simply aren't as good in that situation as a cylinder cleaner.
#9
The slim Dyson 18 upright ideal - all floors... £199 at Comet at the moment

http://www.comet.co.uk/cometbrowse/product.do?sku=357073
#10
Just to back up what Mike has said,cylinder cleaners are better for hard floor surfaces,they are also lighter to use as you are just holding the hose etc and not pulling and pushing the entire cleaner with your hand.

Upright cleaners can scuff hard floors due to the rotating brush bar,cylinder cleaners work on suction only and tend to have a superior suction to uprights.The Numatic 'Henry' vacuum that he mentioned is a very good,reliable cleaner that should give you years of good service.

Other cylinders to consider would be Miele and Sebo,both very good makes

These are keenly priced Miele S380 £93.99 del
Sebo K1 £99.99 del

:)
#11
Yes, I know that only certain uprights are suitable for hard floors, otherwise would go for the basic dyson as have had mine for years and happy with it. But you have to be v careful with hard floors.
Is it much slower vacuuming with a cylinder? And you are dragging the cylinder around - is that likely to scuff the floors? The hard floors are laminate and that isnt repairable once scratched.
The Miele Pet and Hair (or some similar name!) came out best on Which? and these are cylinder, its just that, as said, we have always had uprights.
Does it take longer to clean floors with a cylinder?
#12
I just got a Henry had it a couple of yrs,got laminated in here and kids bedroom with carpets on stairs and in our bedroom.
#13
moneylover
Yes, I know that only certain uprights are suitable for hard floors, otherwise would go for the basic dyson as have had mine for years and happy with it. But you have to be v careful with hard floors.
Is it much slower vacuuming with a cylinder? And you are dragging the cylinder around - is that likely to scuff the floors? The hard floors are laminate and that isnt repairable once scratched.
The Miele Pet and Hair (or some similar name!) came out best on Which? and these are cylinder, its just that, as said, we have always had uprights.
Does it take longer to clean floors with a cylinder?

I have used both cylinder and upright cleaners.I currently have an upright but wish I had not been persuaded by my OH to get one(I was going to get a cylinder!)

My reasons for wanting another cylinder cleaner
1) I find them lighter to use(as mentioned above)
2) You can get into all the nooks and crannies better and underneath furniture etc(I am not one of those that moves the furniture every time I vacuum!!)
3) the suction is better
4)it would be better for the bit of laminate flooring that I have)
5) I am always bashing things with the heavier upright,such as skirting boards and furniture,maybe that is just me being clumsy!
6)cleaning stairs is much easier with a cylinder

it does not take any longer with a cylinder in my opinionand I do find that I tend to do a more thorough job with a cylinder cleaner.
As I say,I have used both so can speak from both sides.Also,I used to work in electrical retailing and my experience is that cylinder cleaners are far more reliable,the reason is(as I recall) that the dust goes directly into the bag or container,whereas with uprights the rubbish you are cleaning up travels over the motor before it goes into the bag/waste compartment.

If I was buying a cleaner today I would probably go for a miele,they are well made,relaible and efficient.
#14
My Miele Cat & Dog is brilliant and is also a Which best buy. :-D
#15
moneylover
Yes, I know that only certain uprights are suitable for hard floors, otherwise would go for the basic dyson as have had mine for years and happy with it. But you have to be v careful with hard floors.
Is it much slower vacuuming with a cylinder? And you are dragging the cylinder around - is that likely to scuff the floors? The hard floors are laminate and that isnt repairable once scratched.
The Miele Pet and Hair (or some similar name!) came out best on Which? and these are cylinder, its just that, as said, we have always had uprights.
Does it take longer to clean floors with a cylinder?


I gave up with mine. Much quieter than the Dyson, but slow and ineffective in comparison. For serious pet infestations the turbo attachment is no good and the power reduces quickly as the bag fills. The D18 brushes can be switched off easily for hard floors and it takes me half the time to do a much better job.
#16
If you can afford it, a Dyson looks quite good - loads of support.

We have a DC07. The motor has just failed after a lot of years of hard work and shifting lots of s**t.

Right, now check out my post about the service backup from Dyson. It's something you DON'T read about in Which? magazine.: http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/147235/fixed-price-service-for-dyson-vacuu/showthread.php?p=1600156#post1600156

In short, not only did they replace the motor and filter (which I knew were knackered and would have cost me about $60+ to buy and fit myself) but they also replaced ANOTHER £65 worth of bits 'cos the originals "looked a bit worn" AND a new cyclone (The bin bit)

Basically a new vacuum, all for £65.

The other caveats I'd suggest are:
- Check the weight. My DC07 is quite heavy
- Check the noise: When you shift that much air it does make a racket
- Check the size: The DC07 is a bit tall for the missus
#17
Can definately recommend Bissell Lift Off, the blue one. Came out extremely well in all the reviews, my husband spent ages researching! It's great for laminate and carpets, I have both! I paid £100 inc. delivery.
#18
Simply buy a dyson with the brush-bar turn off feature. I have laminate floors and never had a scratch or scuff when I use the dyson although I don't use the dyson much, as my girl-friend usally does it all.
#19
I'm a painter and decorator so I use different hoovers all the time. Most people have dysons and I have no idea why.
Dysons are rubbish!
Always breaking, need emptying every 5 minutes, mega expensive, the crevice tool/hose arrangement is a total pain. I'm sure its an emperors new clothes or keep up with the joneses thing.
Henry is king, they never break and will pick up anything.
They're £90 on amazon and worth every penny.

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