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Been looking at Aria and ebuyer as have google checkout offer but don't really know what I'm looking at Help Read More
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9y, 10m agoPosted 9 years, 10 months ago
Been looking at Aria and ebuyer as have google checkout offer but don't really know what I'm looking at

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9y, 10m agoPosted 9 years, 10 months ago
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#1
Probably something like this: http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/127034 or http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/116883 both under £40 after Google checkout.
#2
Thanks. I'm still hoping to find 1950pro for 70 before google checkout ends. LOL.

Anyone know how an ATI X800 GT All in wonder would stack up against these - speed wise?
#3
x800 is old news now mite be fast and everything but the technology aint there, different shaders and different compatabilities with new ones. id find a 1950 if it was me
#4
This is a good place to start for direct comparisons: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/graphics/charts.html

The two cards mega has suggested are decent budget graphics cards (the Radeon X1550 is identical to a Radeon X1300, just a different name). If Aria have the X800GT AIW on super-special (I got one for under £30 delivered from them the other day) its cracking in terms of what you get for the money - decent gaming performance (better than either of the two cards linked above on anything which doesn't require SM3), DVB-T and analogue TV tuner, radio and best of all the RF-Remote control. If you are using Vista the AIW ain't that great as its not got drivers for the TV, but for any other OS I reckon its easily the best card you will find for £30 at the moment. Looks like it isn't today, but it might be worth hanging on and checking aria every day to see if its in the super specials again as it has been quite often last few weeks.

One thing to consider is would you rather have a silent card or a fan based card. A silent card will likely be either a bit slower or more expensive than the equivalent fan based card, but graphics card fans can be quite noisy and irritating so its worth considering.
#5
tgbyhn10
Thanks. I'm still hoping to find 1950pro for 70 before google checkout ends. LOL.


Erm.....but then it wouldn't be under £40 as stipulated would it :thumbsup: :giggle:
#6
dcx - don't really think that is a fair point:

1. Budget is £40, Radeon X800 AIW has been as low as £29 delivered, I've not seen a 7600GT for under £50.
2. It doesn't really support more - the Radeon supports analogue TV, digital TV, radio, it has a remote control. Surely that is more support than the lack of support for the very few games requiring 256Mb VRAM and/or SM3.

There have been some really good graphics deals for under £40 - most notably the Radeon X1650 that were under £30 delivered, but I haven't seen anything in the last couple of weeks that has stood out. By all means spend a bit more and get a GeForce 7600GT, 8600 or X1650 Pro, X1950 etc but I personally doubt you'll find any of these for under £50 before GC runs out..
#7
megalomaniac
Erm.....but then it wouldn't be under £40 as stipulated would it :thumbsup: :giggle:


True, but who could resist at that price?
#8
If you need SM3 and for that price you may as well spend the extra £10 or so on an X1650:
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/121221 or 7600GT: http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/106578

Jah did make a good suggestion with the X800 though, it's cheap and quick if you don't need SM3.
#9
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[SIZE=2]This is the second time I've type this out, thanks to the ridiculous settings on this forum, logging me out after a few minutes. I love the site but for about the 20th time I lost my entire post when I pressed send. Please don't neg me as you are logged out far too soon.[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=2]here goes again - 2nd draft[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=2]Thanks for info on x800 shame about drivers, I will be using vista, are there any plans for drivers for vista? I did like that card for the money. I can get for £35 delivered aria back in stock now but not on special.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=2]7600gt looks great but if I'm going to spend that much I'd want it to be an ati card, sorry i forgot to say i was getting a crossfire board. [/SIZE][SIZE=2]I'm still happy to get an nvidia card if it's a good card but really cheap or a cheapo 7300 or similar to tide me over for now until I can upgrade [/SIZE][SIZE=2]to a better ati card / 2 ati cards. [/SIZE]

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[SIZE=2]I have been told that it's pointless using 2 low to mid range ati cards in crossfire and I'd be better off getting 1 1950 now. Is this right?[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=2]thanks for all the help and if anyone sees a really good deal in the next couple of days, would you let me know?[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=2]Thanks[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=2]Pete[/SIZE]
#10
In that case just get something cheap like the x1550 or 7300, by the time you get round to purchasing your higher spec card(s) the x1950's will be much cheaper, if not completely out of date.
#11
I didn't know crossfire was difficult to set up

Decided to just get a good card to start with, the human body can last for weeks on just water after all.

But which one?

Sapphire X1950GT 256MB GDDR3 DVI-I TV Out PCI-E Graphics Card £69.71 delivered

Sapphire X1950Pro 256MB GDDR3 DVI TVO HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card £84.33 delivered

Point Of View 7600GT 256mb DDR3 DVI HDTV TV Out PCI-E Graphics Card £59.64 delivered

Somebody tell me which one of these to go for I can't make up my mind.

I'm leaning toward the 1950GT at the moment but upset by the fact that the 7600GT stomps all over it in ms flight simulator.

or there is this card:

ATi Radeon X1950 PRO 256MB PCI-Express - 256MB DDR3, 256-Bit, 575Mhz Core, 1380MHz Memory

for £80.36 delivered but is this a no name brand or manufactured by ati?

AAAAGGGHHHHHHH!! I can't decide.
#12
Sapphire x1950GT if you're just a gamer, Sapphire x1950Pro if you want to watch anything in HD as well.
#13
megalomaniac
Sapphire x1950GT if you're a gamer, Sapphire x1950Pro if you want to watch anything in HD.


Can't the GT do HD then? I thought it would breeze that...

I read somewhere that the sapphire versions used the same core , is that not correct.

i know the GT memory and core are clocked lower and i don't think you get a crossfire bridge with the GT are there any other differences?

thanks
#14
It's nothing to do with speed, according to your info there's no HDCP compliant connection on that one, which I assume is why it's so much cheaper (there's not much difference otherwise, at least not £15 worth, hence me suggesting the GT). Vista downgrades everything that doesn't go through HDCP compliant connections, so no HDCP = no HD.

You have any links so we can double check if that's the case or not?
#15
OK thanks.
banned#16
If you have VISTA then steer clear of Nvidia as they have major driver issues and have done for 4 months now. Half Life 2 etc wont run for more than 5 minutes. Google it as its a major problem which Nvidia refuse to accept.

NVLDDMKM.SYS is the search word.

I wish I'd bought an ATI now! I'll never go near NVidia again.
#17
megalomaniac
It's nothing to do with speed, according to your info there's no HDCP compliant connection on that one, which I assume is why it's so much cheaper (there's not much difference otherwise, at least not £15 worth, hence me suggesting the GT). Vista downgrades everything that doesn't go through HDCP compliant connections, so no HDCP = no HD.

You have any links so we can double check if that's the case or not?


Sorry, here are the links

Sapphire X1950GT 256MB GDDR3 DVI-I TV Out PCI-E Graphics Card £69.71 delivered
Some sod's bought these now, come on which one of you did it?

Sapphire X1950Pro 256MB GDDR3 DVI TVO HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card £84.33 delivered
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/119203

Point Of View 7600GT 256mb DDR3 DVI HDTV TV Out PCI-E Graphics Card £59.64 delivered
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/106578

ATi Radeon X1950 PRO 256MB PCI-Express - 256MB DDR3, 256-Bit, 575Mhz Core, 1380MHz Memory £80.36 delivered
http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/ATi+Radeon+X1950+PRO+256MB+PCI-Express?productId=27035
is this last one a no name brand or manufactured by ati?
#18
tgbyhn10
Sorry, here are the links

Sapphire X1950GT 256MB GDDR3 DVI-I TV Out PCI-E Graphics Card £69.71 delivered
Some sod's bought these now, come on which one of you did it?

Sapphire X1950Pro 256MB GDDR3 DVI TVO HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card £84.33 delivered
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/119203

Point Of View 7600GT 256mb DDR3 DVI HDTV TV Out PCI-E Graphics Card £59.64 delivered
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/106578

ATi Radeon X1950 PRO 256MB PCI-Express - 256MB DDR3, 256-Bit, 575Mhz Core, 1380MHz Memory £80.36 delivered
http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/ATi+Radeon+X1950+PRO+256MB+PCI-Express?productId=27035
is this last one a no name brand or manufactured by ati?


ATI don't sell cards in this country so it will be some generic or other. However ATI do insist on approving all manufacturers themselves so it should be ok, unlike the toss you can get from some budget NVIDIA based cards.

The HDCP thing becomes a non-issue due to the sell-out, but if it's the one just I saw on eBuyer it is HDCP compliant (still need a compliant connection on your monitor mind, for HD in Vista). Anyway I notice the more expensive one is crossfire compatible as-well which is what you were looking for I believe.

For me 7600GT Vs X1950Pro is a no brainier (if it were a 78 on the other hand...) and I'd still go for the Sapphire myself as you know what you're getting.
#19
dcx_badass
I don't know what crap your using, but your doing something wrong, i've been using Vista for almost two years now and never had one problem, i've used 9 different builds including the retail, and the drivers work great and games run great. Your doing something wrong.

Personally i like Nvidia so i'd get the 7600GT, the Ati's i've had have had really bloated drivers(catalyst control centre) thats always slowed the pc down.


Vista driver issues are a well known and widespread problem for computer novice and expert alike, he's probably not doing anything wrong but is just unfortunate enough to have problematic hardware.

As for the Catalyst Control Centre, you don't have to install that, you can just install the drivers. But with NVIDIA you're stuck installing all the extras (NVIDIA Settings, nView etc.) whether you like it or not. Also Catalyst does have some very useful features like VPU Recover but then the NVIDIA stuff has useful features too, I use nView multiple desktops all the time for example.
#20
csiman
If you have VISTA then steer clear of Nvidia as they have major driver issues and have done for 4 months now. Half Life 2 etc wont run for more than 5 minutes. Google it as its a major problem which Nvidia refuse to accept.

NVLDDMKM.SYS is the search word.

I wish I'd bought an ATI now! I'll never go near NVidia again.


Personally I'd steer clear of Vista not NVIDIA, but that's a whole other debate :giggle:
banned#21
megalomaniac
Vista driver issues are a well known and widespread problem for computer novice and expert alike, he's probably not doing anything wrong but is just unfortunate enough to have problematic hardware.

Thanks for the support. Why are some other posters so obnoxious and think its all down to being a novice.

I'm a computer programmer of 22 years standing so I know my way around PC's. Nvidia accept that under certain conditions (unpublicised) their cards do not work under Vista. Mine's a new PC with Vista Business edition freshly installed and latest Nvidia drivers on a POV 7600GT. Authentic Half Life 2 but it crashes all the time. See NVIDIA.com forum for the complaints. One thread is on page 96 and has been running since Jan with still no resolution so its not like I'm the only one out there with the NVLDDMKM.SYS problem.
banned#22
dcx_badass
I don't know what crap your using, but your doing something wrong, i've been using Vista for almost two years now and never had one problem, i've used 9 different builds including the retail, and the drivers work great and games run great. Your doing something wrong.

Personally i like Nvidia so i'd get the 7600GT, the Ati's i've had have had really bloated drivers(catalyst control centre) thats always slowed the pc down.

I can see why you have a bad arse!
#23
1950GT is in stock http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/125020 (good old ebuyer and wierd stock system...) - 98 available ATOP. This is probably what I'd recommend given what you've said, its probably worth the extra spend over your £40 initial budget, you get a lot more card for your money.
#24
so what u deciding to do???
#25
flexo786
so what u deciding to do???


I kept looking at cheap cards then thinking if I just spent £10 more, then £10 more, then £10 more untill I ended up looking at the 1950pro again. Kept getting to the google checkout screen and backing out but got sick of doing that and pressed the "place your order button" for the sapphire x1950pro - didn't know I was going to do it till I got there. I know I spent more than the £40 target but in the end I thought, what's £85 over the course of my life? Nothing, so I did it and even if I've overspent, It's not going to kill me. I will be eating what's in the cupboard / freezer for the next few weeks though, no joke. LOL

I nearly went for the GT though, it was a close thing.

Thanks to everyone for all the help.

Pete
#26
tgbyhn10
I kept looking at cheap cards then thinking if I just spent £10 more, then £10 more, then £10 more untill I ended up looking at the 1950pro again. Kept getting to the google checkout screen and backing out but got sick of doing that and pressed the "place your order button" for the sapphire x1950pro - didn't know I was going to do it till I got there. I know I spent more than the £40 target but in the end I thought, what's £85 over the course of my life? Nothing, so I did it and even if I've overspent, It's not going to kill me. I will be eating what's in the cupboard / freezer for the next few weeks though, no joke. LOL

I nearly went for the GT though, it was a close thing.

Thanks to everyone for all the help.

Pete


ive been thinking the exact same but seeing as i dont play games that much i will be getting the 7600gs
banned#27
Just make sure your PSU has a P10 6 pin connector otherwise you'll need to replace your powers supply too! Dell owners - you have been warned.

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