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wanted : wired and wireless router

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9y, 2m agoPosted 9 years, 2 months ago
hi, the router must be able to do both from a single ethernet connection...

want to have wireless for my laptop and a wired connection for both my xbox 360 and playstation 3 when i finally get one.

best one possible. will pay around 100 maximum.

regards.
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9y, 2m agoPosted 9 years, 2 months ago
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#1
anybody?
#2
bump.
#3
narrowed it down to these 2 ...

http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=1500000701&productId=1500041261

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/0621496.htm

anybody any recommendations?

i'll never be more than 4 metres away from the router at all times. wanting to a pay a wee bit extra for quality and reliability.

will shop around for a better price, unless this is the best?
#4
Don't buy a draft N router unless you're buying all matching wireless hardware, the standard is not finalised yet so you may end up with a product that is no better than an 802.11g router availible at a fraction of the price......and you certainly shouldn't be buying one from Argos at those prices!

Have a look here: http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/store/8/cat/Wireless see if you like the look of anything.

Also do you need it to be ADSL / cable compatible, or just a straight router?

FYI what you said here: "wired and wireless router" "the router must be able to do both from a single ethernet connection..." doesn't make a great deal of sense as ethernet = wired LAN. I assume you mean you're connecting it up to another ethernet device like a cable modem?
#5
megalomaniac
Don't buy a draft N router unless you're buying all matching wireless hardware, the standard is not finalised yet so you may end up with a product that is no better than an 802.11g router availible at a fraction of the price......and you certainly shouldn't be buying one from Argos at those prices!

Have a look here: http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/store/8/cat/Wireless see if you like the look of anything.

Also do you need it to be ADSL / cable compatible, or just a straight router?

i had no intention of buying from argos mate :giggle:

definitely not at those prices!

i dont know what compatability, im a techy dunce. i'll explain my situation...

i just bought a new laptop, (HP 6715B) and want to go wireless. i've upgraded from a desktop so already have a wired connection in my bedroom (i keep modem underneath stairs and run an ethernet cable up to avoid cluttering cables). All i want is a good router that will be able to connect my laptop at a decent speed, lets say...4mb/6mb (im on a 20meg line at all times) and be able to wire my xbox 360 and PS3 at full speed.

the router must have good reviews and be reliable as it will be used everyday.

lifetime guarantee or a few years at least.
#6
"FYI what you said here: "wired and wireless router" "the router must be able to do both from a single ethernet connection..." doesn't make a great deal of sense as ethernet = wired LAN. I assume you mean you're connecting it up to another ethernet device like a cable modem?"



i run a gigabit ethernet cable from my modem which is kept underneath my stairs.

i want to split the signal from the ethernet cable to accomodate my laptop through wireless, but also have a wired connection for a 360 and PS3



is that a bit clearer?
#7
I see, any wireless router should do it then. Personally I'm a fan of Zyxel hardware, but any should do the job.

If the wireless is built into your laptop then go for an 802.11g compatable one as that'll be what is in the laptop and they are a hell of a lot cheaper than 802.11n routers. Plus as the g standard is ratified (unlike n which is still a draft standard) you can be sure that you can mix and match different manufacturers hardware without hassle. Although draft n routers will support the g standard it's not worth the extra money imho, it may be faster but you wont be able to use it if your laptop only supports 802.11g :thumbsup:.
#8
heres a link to the laptop i own...

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/HP_Compaq_Business_Notebook_6715b_GB835ET/version.asp

any advice on which one to buy?
#9
Cool it supports WPA2 encryption: http://h20331.www2.hp.com/Hpsub/cache/295457-0-0-225-121.html. So ideally you want a router that supports that for maximum security.

I have one of these: http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/109521 which is a good bit of kit, but you won't need the built in ADSL modem and by the sounds of it your range requirements wont be too high so you could save some ££ with something like this: http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/90827
#10
What type of internet do you have? Is it Virgin Media or does it come through your phone line?
#11
jakaraka
What type of internet do you have? Is it Virgin Media or does it come through your phone line?

virgin media.
#12
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#13
fitzybhoy
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Don't worry about what jakaraka said, that is irrelevant to your set-up and what you described you want it to do. You just need something to deal with an Ethernet connection from your modem and distribute it via wireless and wired LAN to a laptop and games consoles, right? Which means you can buy pretty much any wireless router you like, ADSL compatible, Cable compatible or otherwise that part doesn't matter (although one designed for cable, like that Linksys I mentioned, may be easier as they're often designed to do that out of the box)........ :thumbsup:

Just make sure it's 802.11g compatible (as that is the max your laptop can handle there is no point getting a faster draft n based router because a wireless network can only be as fast as it's slowest connection) and WPA2 compatible (for security), and has at least 3 Ethernet ports (4's usual), also a firewall would be preferable to if your modem doesn't already have one.
#14
megalomaniac
Don't worry about what jakaraka said, that is irrelevant to your set-up and what you described you want it to do. You just need something to deal with an Ethernet connection from your modem and distribute it via wireless and wired LAN to a laptop and games consoles, right? Which means you can buy pretty much any wireless router you like, ADSL compatible, Cable compatible or otherwise that part doesn't matter (although one designed for cable may be better as they're often designed to do that out of the box)........ :thumbsup:

Just make sure it's 802.11g compatible (as that is the max your laptop can handle there is no point getting a faster draft n based router because a wireless network can only be as fast as it's slowest connection) and WPA2 compatible (for security), and has at least 3 Ethernet ports (4's usual), a firewall would be preferable to if your modem doesn't already have one.

so this router isnt suitable?

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Belkin_N1_Wireless_Router_F5D8231UK4/version-1.asp
#15


That's fine, it would work for your purposes, you'd just be wasting your money as it can go a hell of a lot faster than your laptop would allow. Basically your wireless network can only ever be as fast as the slowest thing connected to it, in this case your laptop at a maximum of 54 Mbit/s. Meaning you might as well get a slower 54 Mbit/s (802.11g) router which are often less than half the price. Plus like I said earlier 'daft n' is called that because the standard hasn't been agreed yet, meaning that router isn't guaranteed to work at full speed with anything apart from other Belkin draft N hardware.
#16
megalomaniac
That's fine, it would work for your purposes, you'd just be wasting your money as it can go a hell of a lot faster than your laptop would allow. Basically your wireless network can only ever be as fast as the slowest thing connected to it, in this case your laptop at a maximum of 54 Mbit/s. Meaning you might as well get a slower 54 Mbit/s (802.11g) router which are often less than half the price. Plus like I said earlier 'daft n' is called that because the standard hasn't been agreed yet, meaning that router isn't guaranteed to work at full speed with anything apart from other Belkin draft N hardware.

one last question before i put this on my wishlist...

will i be able to run say, xbox live and surf at the same time?

ps, i think this router is worth the cash because of the lifetime warranty.

seems pretty solid built aswell.
#17
Warranty isn't particularly important with routers, as unlike TV's, Computers etc. there's very little that can go wrong, a good one should last you a long long time. The Belkin lifetime warranty apparently equates to 5 yrs max and applies to all Belkin hardware not just the draft N stuff. Obviously it's your call on the draft N one but in my honest opinion you would be throwing money down the drain, as you wont be able to use it to its full capabilities. So I'd say you would be better with a cheaper one.......Note cheaper does NOT mean lower quality in this context, most draft N routers review very poorly (particularly the Belkin ones....) and often don't come close to the speeds advertised.

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/90827 3 yrs warranty and a fraction of the price and reviews well.
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/103185 Very popular with cable users, reviews well, very flexible due to Linux based firmware, 3yr warranty half the price.
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/48546 3 yrs warranty, a fraction of the price and reviews ok.
etc. etc.

There are literally 100's of 802.11g routers available for around half the price of that draft n router, many of which will actually perform better with your 802.11g laptop. Google "draft n roundup" or similar for a whole host of articles saying exactly that and more. Your best bet is to decide 5 or so you like the look / price of and Google for some reviews (model number +review will usually dig up a few) :thumbsup:
#18
megalomaniac
Warranty isn't particularly important with routers, as unlike TV's, Computers etc. there's very little that can go wrong, a good one should last you a long long time. The Belkin lifetime warranty apparently equates to 5 yrs max and applies to all Belkin hardware not just the draft N stuff. Obviously it's your call on the draft N one but in my honest opinion you would be throwing money down the drain, as you wont be able to use it to its full capabilities. So I'd say you would be better with a cheaper one.......Note cheaper does NOT mean lower quality in this context, most draft N routers review very poorly (particularly the Belkin ones....) and often don't come close to the speeds advertised.

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/90827 3 yrs warranty and a fraction of the price and reviews well.
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/103185 Very popular with cable users, reviews well, very flexible due to Linux based firmware, 3yr warranty half the price.
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/48546 3 yrs warranty, a fraction of the price and reviews ok.
etc. etc.

There are literally 100's of 802.11g routers available for around half the price of that draft n router, many of which will actually perform better with your 802.11g laptop. Google "draft n roundup" or similar for a whole host of articles saying exactly that and more. Your best bet is to decide 5 or so you like the look / price of and Google for some reviews (model number +review will usually dig up a few) :thumbsup:

i've seen the one on the middle link creep up before.

from what i've read its the best to go for.

i also pm'ed you.

would you say that the linksys one is the best that i can get??
#19
fitzybhoy
i've seen the one on the middle link creep up before.

from what i've read its the best to go for.

i also pm'ed you.

would you say that the linksys one is the best that i can get??


It's supposed to be a good bit of kit, mainly because it is very flexible. You can download custom firmware to add features to it, I think most people stick this: http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/ddwrt.php on it. Read up on it first to see if you can take full advantage of the flexibility as I don't think you get WPA2 support out of the box you have to add it, also I think there are a few different versions of the hardware but I don't think you can go wrong with one of those.
#20
megalomaniac
It's supposed to be a good bit of kit, mainly because it is very flexible. You can download custom firmware to add features to it, I think most people stick this: http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/ddwrt.php on it. Read up on it first to see if you can take full advantage of the flexibility, also I think there are a few different versions of the hardware but I don't think you can go wrong with one of those.

think i'll go for it then mate.

wheres the cheapest place i can get it? :whistling:
#21
Taking postage into account and if you're not buying anything else with it then probably eBuyer or Amazon, I havn't got time to look at the mo I'm afraid....try scan.co.uk, aria.co.uk. komplett.co.uk, tekheads.co.uk and overclockers.co.uk

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