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Is the website http://bnefs.co legit?

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2y, 4m agoPosted 2 years, 4 months ago
There are some great deals, especially on first order, but I am unsure as it may be scam.
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2y, 4m agoPosted 2 years, 4 months ago
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It's a scam.

They claim they are Brand New Electronics For Sale LTD, but no such company name exists in Company House records.
Their "Verisign Secured" data is forged.
Their "Truste" data is forged.
The address listed on the domain "Whois" data is for an individual in Leeds.
The address listed on the website is a hotel in London.

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#1
It's a scam.

They claim they are Brand New Electronics For Sale LTD, but no such company name exists in Company House records.
Their "Verisign Secured" data is forged.
Their "Truste" data is forged.
The address listed on the domain "Whois" data is for an individual in Leeds.
The address listed on the website is a hotel in London.
#2
Thanks a lot for your answer, good job I didn't go ahead!
#3
Indeed it is a good job. I'm currently in a live chat session on their website. As soon as I asked for company registration details, they started ignoring me. I will report the site and operator to the appropriate authorities. People like that make me sick.

Here's a few basic checks you can perform to help decide whether a website is authentic or not.
1. Check the whois data for the website (easiest way is simply to type "whois xyz.com" (where xyz.com is the actual address)
- This should give you the type of registration (commercial or private non-commercial), the registered name, address and contact telephone number of the owner (any missing data is a big warning sign). If the data shows a "private registration" or hidden contact details, steer clear of the site, so far as buying from it goes.
2. Look for logos like the Verisign and Truste logos on the bnefs website. Click on them and see what happens. If they take you to a box which shows a the correct address for the issuer (so Verisign would be verisign.com or verisign.co.uk and Truste would be truste.com) it is authentic. If it shows nothing, or brings up a box with some other address - it is forged. If you click on the bnefs ones, you will see that in the address bar at the top, it shows the address bnefs.co - which means they are ones that the website owner has made themselves - fakes.
3. Look for https, and a padlock symbol in the address bar/status bar in your browser for registration details. When you are registering your name, address and so on, an online retailer should be using an SSL certificate to encrypt that data. If they do not, be worried.
4. Try contacting them an throwing a few leading questions. For instance, the bnefs site says that they are "bnefs ltd" and "brand new electronics for sale ltd". Limited companies must, on request give you their registered company head office address and company number. This is a requirement by law, and refusal to do so is an offence under company legislation. More often than not, if they refuse, it is because they don't have them and are pretending to be a limited company (a criminal offense).
5. You can check for the registered details on Company House's own website, though to be honest, I find the duport website is significantly easier. Just type the limited company name or number into the search box and if it exists, it will bring it up in the list below.
http://www.duport.co.uk/credit-reports/ <<- this is page I am referring to.
6. Check the street address on the website. GoogleMaps is a fantastic tool for this, showing you exactly what is at the address they have given. Then ask yourself if the building/area is appropriate for the site's claimed business. (ie - no electronics retailer is going to be working out of a hotel).

If you are not 100% comfortable, then walk away, now matter what the deal is. Better to keep your money, than lose it to a deal that is too good to be true.
#4
Once again, thanks a lot for your help. I did call them and the operator didn't really convince me... Defo not legit. I will get my Sony Bravia elsewhere! :)
#5
Don't know too much about internet and all of that stuff and I've purchased a ALIENWARE X51 R2-5476 Gaming PC two weeks ago and it seems that the product was delivered to my address in 5 working days.
Product was brand new... What to say... My luck ??
#6
janetellis872
Don't know too much about internet and all of that stuff and I've purchased a ALIENWARE X51 R2-5476 Gaming PC two weeks ago and it seems that the product was delivered to my address in 5 working days.
Product was brand new... What to say... My luck ??

of course it was. A member for all of 5 minutes X)
#7
Really don't care too much about this... any way... just saying my point of view. Don't like it? Then make a request from the moderators to delete my post:)
#8
benjammin316
janetellis872
Don't know too much about internet and all of that stuff and I've purchased a ALIENWARE X51 R2-5476 Gaming PC two weeks ago and it seems that the product was delivered to my address in 5 working days.
Product was brand new... What to say... My luck ??

of course it was. A member for all of 5 minutes X)
Sorry :p 10 minutes:3
#9
janetellis872
Don't know too much about internet

100% agree with that
#10
Raj32w
janetellis872
Don't know too much about internet

100% agree with that
would you like to give me a private lesson:{?
#11
janetellis872
Raj32w
janetellis872
Don't know too much about internet

100% agree with that
would you like to give me a private lesson:{?

Not really no, but if your going to use a fake picture to convince people to buy from this fake site at least at least make it more convincing.....
#12
Raj32w
janetellis872
Raj32w
janetellis872
Don't know too much about internet

100% agree with that
would you like to give me a private lesson:{?

Not really no, but if your going to use a fake picture to convince people to buy from this fake site at least at least make it more convincing.....
can I have a picture with you? maybe we will go to a drink tomorrow. Do you drink beer? After 6? respond in prv please.
#13
Offer declined and to prevent further spam on this thread im going to go ahead and ignore you
bye
janetellis872
Raj32w
janetellis872
Raj32w
janetellis872
Don't know too much about internet

100% agree with that
would you like to give me a private lesson:{?

Not really no, but if your going to use a fake picture to convince people to buy from this fake site at least at least make it more convincing.....
can I have a picture with you? maybe we will go to a drink tomorrow. Do you drink beer? After 6? respond in prv please.
#14
I ordered from them too( it was a SAMSUNG TV) . I've received the product only after 6 working days with "FREE Super Saver Delivery" ... I was a little bit disappointed about delivery time. I was thinking that the product will arrive to my address in 4-5 days...not 6!!!
#15
petersonmichael
I ordered from them too( it was a SAMSUNG TV) . I've received the product only after 6 working days with "FREE Super Saver Delivery" ... I was a little bit disappointed about delivery time. I was thinking that the product will arrive to my address in 4-5 days...not 6!!!
Oh wow, i'm going to order 3 expensive TVs from them now... Need to save EVERY penny :{
#16
petersonmichael
I ordered from them too( it was a SAMSUNG TV) . I've received the product only after 6 working days with "FREE Super Saver Delivery" ... I was a little bit disappointed about delivery time. I was thinking that the product will arrive to my address in 4-5 days...not 6!!!

you're not fooling anyone mate. notice how you capitalised the product name in both of your aliases posts? that's what they call 'a tell' my friend.
#17
it's absolutely a con.

1. Firstly all the prices are about 15-20% cheaper than anywhere else on the web for brand new products.
2. The you can find a special 15% discount on craigslist for being a first customer - for example here http://london.en.craigslist.co.uk/eld/4553641689.html
3 Some of the English in the correspondence has poor grammar
4. The addresses are not legit
5. You can only pay bank transfer - this is the weakest form of protection and you will not get your money back from your bank because you made the payment and will have to deal with the company, who will not give your money back.
6. I called up and spoke to someone after several attempts, I offered to pay in cash and collect in person but that was declined. I offered to pay by credit card (more protection for the buyer) and pay a surcharge but again that was declined.
7. When I questioned the whole transaction they guy said he would send me an email to re-assure me, which he did and I reproduce it below:

[i]"We sell all products online. At our address, we have the deposit, but we do not make any sale from there. All orders are processed online.
We accept PayPal, VISA & MASTERCARD payments. But for some IPs, like yours, because of the TRUSTe security, it seems that the option to pay via PayPal, VISA & MASTERCARD was deactivated. Regarding safety of buyer's payment, to be able to succeed into the online marketplace, our company enrolled at three fundamental online protection programs: TRUSTe, VeriSign, and Godaddy. Each buyer can check the certificates validity status of those services by clicking on each company logo. VeriSign offers the guarantee that all informations submitted on our website are 100 % confidential. TRUSTe offers the guarantee for buyer's payments, and GoDaddy offers the guarantee of safe, that our website does not contain any malicious viruses.
If you click on the TRUSTe logo, you will see a button named : "Get a Full Refund for My Order" . When you click on this button, if you have a payment with us via bank transfer, submit the on-line web application and your money will be refunded within 24 hours.
( This is just to ensure buyers that the payment is protected - we guarantee that all products are authentic, and returns are accepted within 14 days ).
Let us know if you will be able to complete the bank transfer online today, using your online banking.
As soon as we will receive the confirmation of your payment, we will reply with the exactly delivery time and date for your order."
#18
janetellis872
Don't know too much about internet and all of that stuff and I've purchased a ALIENWARE X51 R2-5476 Gaming PC two weeks ago and it seems that the product was delivered to my address in 5 working days.
Product was brand new... What to say... My luck ??

Funny how your name is the same as the name on the Domain owner details for BNEFS.co - before you changed it to private data (which is a breach of domain regulations for a trading website). You're right - you really don't know much about the Internet (or more accurately for you - the World Wide Web.

Don't worry though, the police, trading standards, your web host, and domain registrar have all been informed.
#19
dlee1
janetellis872
Don't know too much about internet and all of that stuff and I've purchased a ALIENWARE X51 R2-5476 Gaming PC two weeks ago and it seems that the product was delivered to my address in 5 working days.
Product was brand new... What to say... My luck ??

Funny how your name is the same as the name on the Domain owner details for BNEFS.co - before you changed it to private data (which is a breach of domain regulations for a trading website). You're right - you really don't know much about the Internet (or more accurately for you - the World Wide Web.

Don't worry though, the police, trading standards, your web host, and domain registrar have all been informed.
You forgot to tell his mum..
#20
muzzzzzzzzzy
You forgot to tell his mum..

Her mum would probably be very embarrassed and ashamed of what her daughter is up do. This website is a small part of a much bigger, organised scam.
#21
be careful of this company, BNEFS is fake, they are doing fraud, I made a complaint to the police.
#22
Hello,
Did you oorder from this company, and what did you order?

As I have ordered and they are now telling me that they cannot process but the refund will not be done immediately.
#23
joey2211
Hello,
Did you oorder from this company, and what did you order?

As I have ordered and they are now telling me that they cannot process but the refund will not be done immediately.

Report them to the following

http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/

The more people report them the better.
#24
dlee1
It's a scam.

They claim they are Brand New Electronics For Sale LTD, but no such company name exists in Company House records.
Their "Verisign Secured" data is forged.
Their "Truste" data is forged.
The address listed on the domain "Whois" data is for an individual in Leeds.
The address listed on the website is a hotel in London.
Just called this company few minutes ago, and they provided those details:
" Registration name : Euro Electronics
Registration Address : 134 Devonshire Rd
London W4 2AW
United Kingdom
Company registration number : 05061489 "

I would like to buy an expensive tv, it cost almost 2k pounds. Please advice if this company exists. Should I purchase the tv from them ? To be honest it is almost 20 % cheaper ...
#25
dlee1
It's a scam.

They claim they are Brand New Electronics For Sale LTD, but no such company name exists in Company House records.
Their "Verisign Secured" data is forged.
Their "Truste" data is forged.
The address listed on the domain "Whois" data is for an individual in Leeds.
The address listed on the website is a hotel in London.
Just called this company few minutes ago, and they provided those details:
" Registration name : Euro Electronics
Registration Address : 134 Devonshire Rd
London W4 2AW
United Kingdom
Company registration number : 05061489 "

I would like to buy an expensive tv, it cost almost 2k pounds. Please advice if this company exists. Should I purchase the tv from them ? To be honest it is almost 20 % cheaper ...
#26
TClaire
dlee1
It's a scam.

They claim they are Brand New Electronics For Sale LTD, but no such company name exists in Company House records.
Their "Verisign Secured" data is forged.
Their "Truste" data is forged.
The address listed on the domain "Whois" data is for an individual in Leeds.
The address listed on the website is a hotel in London.
Just called this company few minutes ago, and they provided those details:
" Registration name : Euro Electronics
Registration Address : 134 Devonshire Rd
London W4 2AW
United Kingdom
Company registration number : 05061489 "

I would like to buy an expensive tv, it cost almost 2k pounds. Please advice if this company exists. Should I purchase the tv from them ? To be honest it is almost 20 % cheaper ...

You'd been a member of this site for four minutes before posting this...
#27
TClaire
Just called this company few minutes ago, and they provided those details:
" Registration name : Euro Electronics
Registration Address : 134 Devonshire Rd
London W4 2AW
United Kingdom
Company registration number : 05061489 "

I would like to buy an expensive tv, it cost almost 2k pounds. Please advice if this company exists. Should I purchase the tv from them ? To be honest it is almost 20 % cheaper ...
TClaire
Just called this company few minutes ago, and they provided those details:
" Registration name : Euro Electronics
Registration Address : 134 Devonshire Rd
London W4 2AW
United Kingdom
Company registration number : 05061489 "

I would like to buy an expensive tv, it cost almost 2k pounds. Please advice if this company exists. Should I purchase the tv from them ? To be honest it is almost 20 % cheaper ...

6 minute member
#28
Mods should ban new members from joining such treads, especially company related ones.

Edited By: bargainBooze on Aug 06, 2014 21:18: edit
#29
You'd have thought after making the F5 mistake once they wouldn't make the same mistake again with their new account...

TClaire, we don't want to hear back from you next week how you went for it and received your goods. Don't bother.

Edited By: eayragt on Aug 06, 2014 19:16
#30
lol the design


Edited By: mudisoft on Aug 06, 2014 19:25
#31
Unfortunately I paid for a television from them on 11th July and didn't receive a television so I went and pressed the refund button they said about and nothing happened so I rang the company that had posted the refund button and they said it was not their responsibility to refund I would have to deal with the company who I now know is a scam. I lost £430.09 which is a sore lost when I am a single parent I was just trying to get a bargain and it backfired in a big way. They have since promised me on several occasions to refund and never have and I had never paid by bank transfer before so I didn't know I wasn't covered. I have been left pretty devastated by it all and my daughter was so disappointed as well. I have reported them to trading standards and to action fraud but that won't get me my money back. I wish I knew where this man is because I would go and face him and tell him what a fraudster he is. He was quick enough to talk me through the transfer process but when I ask him to transfer it back he says it is not so easy to do that with a business! totally fed up
#32
tag64
Unfortunately I paid for a television from them on 11th July and didn't receive a television so I went and pressed the refund button they said about and nothing happened so I rang the company that had posted the refund button and they said it was not their responsibility to refund I would have to deal with the company who I now know is a scam. I lost £430.09 which is a sore lost when I am a single parent I was just trying to get a bargain and it backfired in a big way. They have since promised me on several occasions to refund and never have and I had never paid by bank transfer before so I didn't know I wasn't covered. I have been left pretty devastated by it all and my daughter was so disappointed as well. I have reported them to trading standards and to action fraud but that won't get me my money back. I wish I knew where this man is because I would go and face him and tell him what a fraudster he is. He was quick enough to talk me through the transfer process but when I ask him to transfer it back he says it is not so easy to do that with a business! totally fed up

I am really sorry to hear your story tag64, I wish I had posted this before so that perhaps you could have seen it.
On the other hand, I am glad that at least this scam has been reported. Didn't expect so many comments to my post as I just joined the website (and unlike some people who commented above, I did it with genuine intentions!).
#33
tag64
Unfortunately I paid for a television from them on 11th July and didn't receive a television so I went and pressed the refund button they said about and nothing happened so I rang the company that had posted the refund button and they said it was not their responsibility to refund I would have to deal with the company who I now know is a scam. I lost £430.09 which is a sore lost when I am a single parent I was just trying to get a bargain and it backfired in a big way. They have since promised me on several occasions to refund and never have and I had never paid by bank transfer before so I didn't know I wasn't covered. I have been left pretty devastated by it all and my daughter was so disappointed as well. I have reported them to trading standards and to action fraud but that won't get me my money back. I wish I knew where this man is because I would go and face him and tell him what a fraudster he is. He was quick enough to talk me through the transfer process but when I ask him to transfer it back he says it is not so easy to do that with a business! totally fed up

That's really awful to hear about, have been the victim of this kind of fraud before, paying through bank transfer. The thing that really made me angry when it happened to me, was that I assumed I was covered paying via bank transfer (makes sense), and banks never supply information about preventing fraud or the fact that bank transfers are not secure. It would not be difficult for them to inform people of this. When I rang the bank to report what had happened, they simply didn't want to know and treated me like an idiot, offered no help or advice whatsoever, and actually spoke to me in a - stop wasting our time - tone.

Regardless of this, I went through the banks complaint system, not expecting to receive anything, and I didn't. So I then went to the banks Ombudsman, still not expecting to receive anything, and when the Ombudsman contacted the bank, the bank decided to offer me half the money I spent in compensation. So I would advise you to follow this route.

Secondly, make sure you make a full report to the Police fraud unit. If enough people make a complaint about the same person/company, they will look into it. This is what happened with me, and a year after the crime took place, I received an email from the Police that the suspect had been arrested and charged. Karma.
#34
Google earth - Street View

http://i59.tinypic.com/idujcn.jpg
#35
wow, hopefully the owner of the site gets caught. They're scumbags.


Edited By: jg213 on Aug 08, 2014 10:38
#36
Gordonc1960
Google earth - Street View

http://i59.tinypic.com/idujcn.jpg

The whole point is that the person (TClaire) who posted that address and company name has just registered on HUKD, obviously is the person running the scam, and is using Euro Electronics (a legitimate company which doesn't belong to them) to try and trick people into thinking the bnefs.co.uk website is a legitimate company. But there is absolutely no link between the bnefs.co.uk company and Euro Electronics, and the person who keeps making new accounts and posting false information should be banned by the moderators.
#37
Thanks napolink I wish I had seen this forum before I transferred my money I even rang the bank for advice but they didn't tell me I wasn't covered if I paid by bank transfer. Some people are saying they received the product they bought or are those postings being done by fake members? I just wish i could find this man!
#38
It's clearly a fake website, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to work this out. The design of the site and the spelling and grammar are awful, not to mention several other flaws.

It's embarrassing how anyone could think otherwise.
#39
Well unfortunately I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to computers and internet websites so I was taken in and it has taken me a lot to post my situation so yes you are entitled to your opinion but it doesn't help my already guilty state of being to have it rubbed in that I should be embarrassed to have been taken in! Everybody makes mistakes in life and unluckily for me this was one of mine and I have paid for it but I certainly won't be taking it lying down!
#40
tag64
Thanks napolink I wish I had seen this forum before I transferred my money I even rang the bank for advice but they didn't tell me I wasn't covered if I paid by bank transfer. Some people are saying they received the product they bought or are those postings being done by fake members? I just wish i could find this man!

It's extremely likely the person running the scam is setting up multiple accounts on this website and pretending they have had a good experience with the bnefs.co website, to try and trick people into purchasing from there. The best advice you can take is to learn from mistakes made buying online, and take extra precautions next time. One posters - dlee1 - who posted the 3rd comment on this thread, made an excellent list of checks you can make before buying.

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