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What do you think of this modest gaming PC build?

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Hi, I've never built my own PC but have always been interested in giving it a go. I've put together the below list which is at the top end of my budget. Comes to a total of £780 if I get everything… Read More
danielrobson50 Avatar
5m, 5d agoPosted 5 months, 5 days ago
Hi,

I've never built my own PC but have always been interested in giving it a go. I've put together the below list which is at the top end of my budget. Comes to a total of £780 if I get everything from Amazon. If possible I want to make it a bit cheaper but not sure how.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/nLDP7h

I'm looking to run games at 1080p but don't need any better. Need to find a monitor still.

Can anyone take a look and give me any advice?

Cheers!
danielrobson50 Avatar
5m, 5d agoPosted 5 months, 5 days ago
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#1
An i5 and RX480 is hardly modest, that's mid-range at the very least. If you want something more modest then look at a G4560 and a 460 or 470. Doing away with the fancy 650W semi-modular PSU and plumping for a standard 350W-450W model will also save you a bit.

You'll also need a retail copy of windows if you're building it yourself, OEM is only for building systems to sell. The price difference is minor though, about a fiver last time I checked.
#2
A very nice build! You can get the oem windows it's not only if you are selling the system once built.
#3
Cheers guys, i'll take a look at a cheaper CPU and GPU then. First time, so was just taking advice I could find online.

Yeah happy to get the regular retail copy of windows. Must have clicked the wrong one.
#4
Looks like a great build. Nice selection of parts. Is it worth seeing if ZEN effects Intel's prices at all when it comes out?
#5
The AMD you choose is an excellent mid range card and currently better for DX12 and Vulkan based games than the equivalent NVIDIA card which is good for the future.

But if you don't mind a top end budget card and don't mind playing 1080p games with moderate settings then the 1050Ti is worth a look. But to be honest the rig you have specced is very nice.
#6
EndlessWaves
An i5 and RX480 is hardly modest, that's mid-range at the very least. If you want something more modest then look at a G4560 and a 460 or 470. Doing away with the fancy 650W semi-modular PSU and plumping for a standard 350W-450W model will also save you a bit.
You'll also need a retail copy of windows if you're building it yourself, OEM is only for building systems to sell. The price difference is minor though, about a fiver last time I checked.

What's wrong with using an OEM license? I can't see any issue with that.
#7
absulute2012
EndlessWaves
An i5 and RX480 is hardly modest, that's mid-range at the very least. If you want something more modest then look at a G4560 and a 460 or 470. Doing away with the fancy 650W semi-modular PSU and plumping for a standard 350W-450W model will also save you a bit.
You'll also need a retail copy of windows if you're building it yourself, OEM is only for building systems to sell. The price difference is minor though, about a fiver last time I checked.
What's wrong with using an OEM license? I can't see any issue with that.
Technically, and OEM system builder license is meant for someone to build the computer and then sell it to the end user. By using this license yourself you are breaking the agreement with Microsoft that you agree to when installing windows.

However... it will function exactly the same as the retail copy of windows but will just be tied to the first computer you install it on (but I have had success moving them in the past).

In short, an oem license will work but you technically break the license agreement with microsoft.

Edited By: qwerty999bh on Jan 17, 2017 17:46
#8
qwerty999bh
absulute2012
EndlessWaves
An i5 and RX480 is hardly modest, that's mid-range at the very least. If you want something more modest then look at a G4560 and a 460 or 470. Doing away with the fancy 650W semi-modular PSU and plumping for a standard 350W-450W model will also save you a bit.
You'll also need a retail copy of windows if you're building it yourself, OEM is only for building systems to sell. The price difference is minor though, about a fiver last time I checked.
What's wrong with using an OEM license? I can't see any issue with that.
Technically, and OEM system builder license is meant for someone to build the computer and then sell it to the end user. By using this license yourself you are breaking the agreement with Microsoft that you agree to when installing windows.

However... it will function exactly the same as the retail copy of windows but will just be tied to the first computer you install it on (but I have had success moving them in the past).

In short, an oem license will work but you technically break the license agreement with microsoft.


How did you move your oem licence?

Edited By: kester76 on Jan 17, 2017 20:16: Grammar
#9
Take a look at benchmarks of the i3-6100... at half the cost of the i5-6500 wouldn't it be better to spend that ~£100 on something else? - So many people say to go for an i5, "just because it's an i5, and i5 is better than i3"... I've recently built systems for friends with an i5-6600k and an i3-6100, and to be honest, I don't think either of them would notice if I swapped them around.
#10
Also, I saw this link being posted recently, a good website to have a look at: http://www.logicalincrements.com/
#11
Thanks all, been really useful.

Still deciding if I need the i5, might save some money and drop to the i3. But to be honest think it will be worth keeping the i5 and the rx480.

Does anyone know much about the mother board? That seems to be the bit I have absolutely no clue on.
#12
Basically, a more expensive mobo has more features. More USB headers, sata ports, RAM slots, M.2 slot, RAID controller, a second LAN controller, etc. Some chipsets will offer better performance than others (but virtually nothing compared to the performance difference of getting the next CPU model up - so in other words, not much).

A lot of enthusiast builders pay way more than they need to on a mobo and don't use half of what they're paying the extra for, on the logic that the more expensive fancy looking one will be 'better'.
#13
danielrobson50
Thanks all, been really useful.
Still deciding if I need the i5, might save some money and drop to the i3. But to be honest think it will be worth keeping the i5 and the rx480.

Those people advising you to look at the i3 haven't kept up with recent developments. Since Intel added stopped disabling SMT on the Pentium branded chips at the Kaby Lake launch a week or two ago there's no good reason to go for a 6100/7100 for gaming as the G4560 is 90-95% of their performance for half the price.

danielrobson50
Does anyone know much about the mother board? That seems to be the bit I have absolutely no clue on.

They make no significant difference in performance, except analogue audio quality, so the main concern is what you're likely to add to the machine in future.

Edited By: EndlessWaves on Jan 18, 2017 20:26: typo
#14
Andaho
Take a look at benchmarks of the i3-6100... at half the cost of the i5-6500 wouldn't it be better to spend that ~£100 on something else? - So many people say to go for an i5, "just because it's an i5, and i5 is better than i3"... I've recently built systems for friends with an i5-6600k and an i3-6100, and to be honest, I don't think either of them would notice if I swapped them around.

The i3-6100 is around £120 at this time, you could take EndlessWaves advice from #1 and buy a KabyLake G4560 for only £65, looks like the performance is identical. Op won't need an aftermarket cooler with a budget cpu, so he could drop the Evo. Rx 470 would be a cheaper alternative to the 480, the model listed has the Reference cooler; aftermarket models run cooler and quieter.
#15
EndlessWaves
Those people advising you to look at the i3 haven't kept up with recent developments. Since Intel added stopped disabling SMT on the Pentium branded chips at the Kaby Lake launch a week or two ago there's no good reason to go for a 6100/7100 for gaming as the G4560 is 90-95% of their performance for half the price.
Oww, you're right: http://wccftech.com/intel-pentium-g4560-ultimate-budget-cpu-65-usd/

It does look good!
#16
bazzadotdoc
The i3-6100 is around £120 at this time, you could take EndlessWaves advice from #1 and buy a KabyLake G4560 for only £65, looks like the performance is identical. Op won't need an aftermarket cooler with a budget cpu, so he could drop the Evo. Rx 470 would be a cheaper alternative to the 480, the model listed has the Reference cooler; aftermarket models run cooler and quieter.
Indeed, it was a couple months ago since I last looked into it, and the last system I built with an i3-6100 it cost £90.

You said you only want 1080 gaming, so I also agree with #1, I think an RX 460 would be plenty good enough... If you go for the best bang-for-buck now, you'll save tons of money over getting an i5 and RX 480, and in a couple years time you could spend that saving on upgrading to new stuff that's faster than the i5/480.
#17
EndlessWaves
danielrobson50
Thanks all, been really useful.
Still deciding if I need the i5, might save some money and drop to the i3. But to be honest think it will be worth keeping the i5 and the rx480.
Those people advising you to look at the i3 haven't kept up with recent developments. Since Intel added stopped disabling SMT on the Pentium branded chips at the Kaby Lake launch a week or two ago there's no good reason to go for a 6100/7100 for gaming as the G4560 is 90-95% of their performance for half the price.
danielrobson50
Does anyone know much about the mother board? That seems to be the bit I have absolutely no clue on.
They make no significant difference in performance, except analogue audio quality, so the main concern is what you're likely to add to the machine in future.

Andaho
EndlessWaves
Those people advising you to look at the i3 haven't kept up with recent developments. Since Intel added stopped disabling SMT on the Pentium branded chips at the Kaby Lake launch a week or two ago there's no good reason to go for a 6100/7100 for gaming as the G4560 is 90-95% of their performance for half the price.
Oww, you're right: http://wccftech.com/intel-pentium-g4560-ultimate-budget-cpu-65-usd/
It does look good!

A particular game I will spend a lot of time playing is Ark: Survival Evolved. Will the G4560 and the RX 460 by okay with running the open world game? If they will, then I will save £200+ and swap for them.
#18
danielrobson50
EndlessWaves
danielrobson50
Thanks all, been really useful.
Still deciding if I need the i5, might save some money and drop to the i3. But to be honest think it will be worth keeping the i5 and the rx480.
Those people advising you to look at the i3 haven't kept up with recent developments. Since Intel added stopped disabling SMT on the Pentium branded chips at the Kaby Lake launch a week or two ago there's no good reason to go for a 6100/7100 for gaming as the G4560 is 90-95% of their performance for half the price.
danielrobson50
Does anyone know much about the mother board? That seems to be the bit I have absolutely no clue on.
They make no significant difference in performance, except analogue audio quality, so the main concern is what you're likely to add to the machine in future.
Andaho
EndlessWaves
Those people advising you to look at the i3 haven't kept up with recent developments. Since Intel added stopped disabling SMT on the Pentium branded chips at the Kaby Lake launch a week or two ago there's no good reason to go for a 6100/7100 for gaming as the G4560 is 90-95% of their performance for half the price.
Oww, you're right: http://wccftech.com/intel-pentium-g4560-ultimate-budget-cpu-65-usd/
It does look good!
A particular game I will spend a lot of time playing is Ark: Survival Evolved. Will the G4560 and the RX 460 by okay with running the open world game? If they will, then I will save £200+ and swap for them.
Not heard of the game myself, but a quick google: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/720349-budget-pc-first-build-help/

Sounds like you'd better raise your budget and include water cooling :P
#19
Just saw this article on Hexus... Interesting that they still use an i3-6100 in this build: http://hexus.net/tech/features/systems/101575-unleashing-full-potential-radeon-rx-460/

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