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What type of drill(s) to get for home DIY?

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2y, 3w agoPosted 2 years, 3 weeks ago
What sort of drill is okay for general home DIY and for drilling into masonry for putting up curtain rail brackets?

This Ryobi Corded percussion drill is currently on special with an Amazon lightning deal for £74.99: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00I5T7KII

Would that be an okay all rounder drill or would it best to have a couple of different types of drills like the Hitachi pack http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hitachi-twin-pack-combi-drill-drill-driver-screwfix-129-99-2103287 ?

Getting a bit confused looking at SDS; impact; percussion; combi; hammer and rotary drills. Quite a few list masonry but it really depends on what the drill is like in real life use. Would prefer something which is built to last rather than cheap tat; is reliable and safe to use; and not likely fail/fall apart after a couple of uses. Don't want to spend loads of money as the drill(s) is/are likely to only be used occasionally.

There has been a few drills listed recently in Deals.

Some reviews can be mixed. I realise people tend to give poor reviews online because they were unfortunate in receiving a bad item.

Metal gears and a clutch for safety seem to be mentioned as being worthwhile.

Thanks for your help.
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2y, 3w agoPosted 2 years, 3 weeks ago
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banned#1
Good one
#2
Get a 18v Makita lxt. It will do everything.
Screwfix have a deal on at the mo.
#3
http://m.screwfix.com/p/makita-dhp459rmw-18v-4-0ah-li-ion-cordless-combi-drill-lxt-brushless-motor/8568f?filtered=true

Something like this.
Ive been through loads of drills. Keen diy er and amatuer joiner.
You'll just waste money if you buy cheap
#4
bosch are usually good for the money. hammer drill for walls , I use corded bosch sds pro hammer as decent rechargeable drills are expensive. sds has grooves to hold bit in place .
#5
I bought the cheapest corded drill from bnq not too long ago and it works fine for what I've used it for, putting up shelves, will mounted a tv, put up a blind. Oh and I'm a 26 year old woman aswel haha :p
#6
Should mention it was a hammer drill
#7
k8y1988
I bought the cheapest corded drill from bnq not too long ago and it works fine for what I've used it for, putting up shelves, will mounted a tv, put up a blind. Oh and I'm a 26 year old woman aswel haha :p

I got this @ £14.99 (or slightly less I think) http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/7106062.htm

It's done a few jobs but now just sits collecting dust in the cupboard - I don't see the point in spending loads on something your are going to use a few times in a few years unless you are "in the trade" and need something more reliable.
#8
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philphil61
k8y1988
I bought the cheapest corded drill from bnq not too long ago and it works fine for what I've used it for, putting up shelves, will mounted a tv, put up a blind. Oh and I'm a 26 year old woman aswel haha :p

I got this @ £14.99 (or slightly less I think) http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/7106062.htm

It's done a few jobs but now just sits collecting dust in the cupboard - I don't see the point in spending loads on something your are going to use a few times in a few years unless you are "in the trade" and need something more reliable.


Couldn't agree more!
#9
I bought a hammer drill from BnQ but it broke when i hammered in the first nail with it
#10
If money is tight, buy a quality main corded hammer drill with quality drill bits. I'm still using a 1970's B&Decker which my Dad built his house with. There are very few jobs in the house where a LiION is more convenient.

You only need an SDS if you need to do heavy work like punching through 8" of brick to run cables or pipes.

Edited By: airbus330 on Dec 30, 2014 23:16
#11
Cheap say 500w drill corded with hammer option for masonry. will do the trick, no more than £20. POINTLESS to buy £200 drill unless in trade.
#12
Gears, sds, £200, your only putting curtains up. It will take all of 20 seconds,then put it back in box for another year till you need it.Wear eye protection.
#13
Ashjac
I bought a hammer drill from BnQ but it broke when i hammered in the first nail with it

What did you do hit gold?
#14
As someone else has already said here, get some decent bits for it otherwise depending on what you're drilling into you could be there for sometime, especially if your house is like mine and the bricks are crazy hard. If you're drilling into breeze block I'd turn the hammer off
#15
Thanks for the suggestions.

Curtain rail brackets is just a small task which my parents need sorting out in their place. Their current drills don't get anywhere with getting the existing holes a little deeper.

I'll be moving soon so will likely need a decent drill(s) for different tasks around the new place.

£15 Argos drill gets rather mixed reviews....don't really want to be going back and forth to a store because it broke down. I supose the quality control may just be hit or miss at the factory. I'll look out for any deals and see what other suggestions get posted here.
#16
gr8t1
http://m.screwfix.com/p/makita-dhp459rmw-18v-4-0ah-li-ion-cordless-combi-drill-lxt-brushless-motor/8568f?filtered=true
Something like this.
Ive been through loads of drills. Keen diy er and amatuer joiner.
You'll just waste money if you buy cheap

I agree with this.. I bought one maybe 5 years ago and its still as good as new. Should last you forever if your only using it for the occasional DIY.
I have used my for everything from hanging pictures on the wall to drilling through concrete flags in the garden
#17
Deaa
gr8t1
http://m.screwfix.com/p/makita-dhp459rmw-18v-4-0ah-li-ion-cordless-combi-drill-lxt-brushless-motor/8568f?filtered=true
Something like this.
Ive been through loads of drills. Keen diy er and amatuer joiner.
You'll just waste money if you buy cheap

I agree with this.. I bought one maybe 5 years ago and its still as good as new. Should last you forever if your only using it for the occasional DIY.
I have used my for everything from hanging pictures on the wall to drilling through concrete flags in the garden

I've seen the following on Amazon but can't seem to find what the difference is between it and the Screwfix DHP459RMW model. Apart from a different case and being a fair bit cheaper:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Makita-DHP456RMWX-Li-Ion-Cordless-Battery/dp/B00G4609NM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420393318&sr=8-1&keywords=makita+456



Apparently it was only £127.99 on Xmas Eve so may wait and see if it drops down to around that again soon. Otherwise the Hitachi in the 2 pack seems similar specs.
#18
Diy use. I would recommend a 240volt hammer drill. Possibly a bosch with a keyless chuck. Then a good 5.5mm masonry bit for use with red plugs. 5mm bit for yellow. Battery's die so you won't get use out of a cordless drill although the cheep ones are handy for screws
#19
Thetarget.
Either of those drills are good drills. Just remember to buy a LXT model.
Then should you wish to buy another battery tool you can save money not needing the battery and charger as they are interchangeable.
#20
Had my Bosch corded drill for 20yrs and still going strong, saying that u can't use it for screwdriving. One of the above rechargeable recommendations would be good as a reliable all rounder.
#21
Most of the advice has been good on here - I'm a keen DIYer and also did a short spell working in the trade.

For cordless drills you need a decent make - Makita are my choice - cheap ones are just toys in comparison and false economy.

For a corded drill you can get away with much cheaper. My current standard corded hammer drill is just a B&Q type - from years ago and still works fine and has the power.

For heavy duty work corded SDS Drills are much better than standard corded drills - I've only ever bought cheap with SDS as I don't need them that regularly but then again I'm on my 3rd so perhaps should have spent a bit more!

One mistake a lot of people make when trying to put curtain rails up is that they try to drill into the steel RSJ above the window! Then they think the drill isn't powerful enough and they keep trying and blunt the bit.
#22
if u buy cordless I'd recommended a lithium ion battery
#23
delayed response
#24
Is a particular motor worth considering in a Makita or other brand? Makita combi drills seem to be canister, brushless, brushed motors.

I found this blog post which may be of use to some people: http://www.its.co.uk/blog/buying-guides/what-makita-drill-to-buy/

The 459 is brushless whilst the 456 has more torque but has a brushed motor.

Is it best to go for torque or go for a little less torque for a brushless motor?

Currently a deal has been posted for a Makita DHP453 at £78 + postage: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/makita-18v-li-ion-combi-drill-78-6-60-delivery-collect-store-hsstoolshop-2123360#comments

According to the link above that has a canister motor.
#25
Cant beat DeWalt drills.
#26
I looked at a Ryobi one but to be honest, the build quality was a bit pants. Ended up buying a B&D Li-ion one, which has been perfect for DIY tasks.

Have also found Hitachi ones to be pretty well made and De-Walt (Which are the same company as B&D).

If it were me I wouldn't buy a no-name drill. When you have chosen a model go and check it out in a shop. I did with the Ryobi and was disappointed when I saw it in the flesh.



Edited By: HudlUserDOTcom on Jan 21, 2015 08:09
#27
I don't know if this is any use, but it's a list I have compiled of who owns/makes what, with respect to power tool companies. Feel free to add to this list as you see fit:

Black and Decker:

*Black & Decker
*Dewalt
*ELU
*Porter cable

Makita Corporation:

*Makita

Techtronic Industries:

*Ryobi
*Craftsman
*Ridgid
*AEG
*Milwaukee
*Vax
*Bissell
*Dirt Devil

Bosch:

*Bosch
*Hawera
*Skil
*Dremel
*Rotozip
*Freud
*Vermont

B&Q:

*Mac Allister
*Performance Power

Lidl:

*Parkside

Home Retail Group (Argos/Homebase):

*Argos Value
*Challenge
*Challenge Xtreme
*Qualcast
*Spear & Jackson

Screwfix:

*Titan
*Erbauer

Metabo:

*Metabo




Edited By: HudlUserDOTcom on Jan 21, 2015 10:04: Added more info
#28
I'd personally recommend you get a 18V Lithium Ion cordless. All my drills are Bosch Professional corded and cordless. Don't personally like Ryobi and wouldn't buy that if it was going to be your only drill. Other than Bosch Professional I would recommend DeWalt and Makita. Don't buy Black & Decker or other DIY rubbish.

Try and buy one that's on offer. Not sure if the offers at Screwfix are genuine. Never been completely convinced. Good luck!
#29
HudlUserDOTcom
I don't know if this is any use, but it's a list I have compiled of who owns/makes what, with respect to power tool companies. Feel free to add to this list as you see fit:

Really useful post. Maybe you should add it as a new Misc thread if you haven't already done so?
#30
So does motor type make much of a difference in a DIY setting or is that just me over analysing things?!

So far I've gathered to go for:

*Proper brand like Makita, Dewalt, Hitachi for a Combi Drill

*SDS drill if required - may as well get a cheap brand as it won't be used much

*18V
*Li-on batteries for cordless drill
*LXT if getting a Makita drill

*Get some good quality drill bits

So what drill bits are recommended?

Are these worthwhile getting for masonry: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-Tungsten-Carbide-Tipped-Masonry/dp/B001SFZWD6
Were posted here: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/sealey-tungsten-carbide-tipped-masonry-drill-set-8-pieces-10-delivered-amazon-2117052

Currently £9.49 from Amazon so a little cheaper.

Or perhaps: http://www.amazon.co.uk/DeWalt-DT6952-QZ-Cylindrical-Plastic-Pieces/dp/B0013LEMT0/ref=cm_cr_pr_sims_t

Perhaps something like this for wood and metal: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-Titanium-Nitride-Coated-Pieces/dp/B009RM356I/ref=pd_sim_auto_2/280-7208975-8700255?ie=UTF8&refRID=1DFCSBZG7SWW4QJ1DT81

A bit tricky when reviews don't always state the kind of tasks they have been used on. Although the above two products do seem to get good reviews on Amazon.

Prices may of course be cheaper elsewhere.

Edited By: thetarget on Jan 21, 2015 12:15: added further link
#31
With regards to SDS drills, I'd recommend getting one with a clutch. I have a cheap one without and it damn near rips your hands off if the drill bit snags on something.

With regards drill bits, go for a quality brand. Generally if shopping somewhere like B&Q then Bosch or Piranha (B&D) or DeWalt (Piranha/B&D) will be just fine.

Bought a selection pack from Lidl a couple of years ago and they have been fine, too.

You can get some very fancy and expensive bits but they are probably overkill. Stick with basic, branded bits and you should be OK.

Do you have a proper DIY surplus store near you? If so they often have branded bits at marked down prices.
#32
Ordered yesterday:

Sealey Tungsten Carbide Tipped Masonry Drill Bit Set @ £9.49


Challenge Xtreme SDS plus Rotary Hammer Drill for £28.99

The above corded SDS mainly has good reviews and used to sell for £49.99. It is suppose to be brand new but old stock from Argos. Has a 12 month warranty. Hopefully won't get a dud.

Waiting to see if the Makita dhp or bhp 456 drops in price again on Amazon or any other good deals come along for a high quality drill.

Will have to look into getting some SDS drill bits.

Going to try the carbide bits on an old corded drill when they arrive and see if they do the curtain rail job.

Edit: Sealey Carbide tip drill bit + antique drill made the existing curtain rail holes deeper without much of an effort.

Edited By: thetarget on Jan 31, 2015 23:37: update of task
#33
Ordered: Makita DHP456RMWX 18V Li-Ion Cordless LXT Combi Drill with 1 x 4Ah Battery as £124.99 seems to be the best price at the moment:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/makita-dhp456rmwx-18v-li-ion-cordless-lxt-combi-drill-with-1-x-4ah-battery-amazon-2171419
banned#34
corded sds plenty of power.

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