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Which dumbell set is better?

manzi Avatar
9y, 11m agoPosted 9 years, 11 months ago
Recently my docter has been has told me too burn some fat before my asthma begins to get worse so after asking around I think im gonna need a dumbell set to burn of the fat in my body, and hopefully turn it into muscles.

Since i have never bothered lifting weights before and an only 16 which dumbell set should i buy out of the selection below? (pls visit the links to see what they are like:thumbsup: )

18Kg Cast Iron Dumbell Set £20 (although some reviews say the bars give you blisters?) :
http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.100-8600.aspx

York 26kg Vinyl Barbell/Dumbbell Set (but im not sure if i need that big bar one as im just a beginer):
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3025343/Trail/C%24cip%3D42222.Sports%2Band%2Bleisure%3EC%24cip%3D42273.Home%2Bgym%2Bequipment%3EC%24cip%3D42286.Weights%2Band%2Bdumbells.htm

York 20kg Spinlock Cast Iron Dumbbell Set £30:
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3008243/Trail/C%24cip%3D42222.Sports%2Band%2Bleisure%3EC%24cip%3D42273.Home%2Bgym%2Bequipment%3EC%24cip%3D42286.Weights%2Band%2Bdumbells.htm

V-fit 19kg Triple Vinyl Dumbbell Set £14:
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3024382/Trail/C%24cip%3D42222.Sports%2Band%2Bleisure%3EC%24cip%3D42273.Home%2Bgym%2Bequipment%3EC%24cip%3D42286.Weights%2Band%2Bdumbells.htm

Oh and the cheaper the better it is for me! Also if you have any other suggestions pls post them up :thumbsup:

Thanks for your time :)
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9y, 11m agoPosted 9 years, 11 months ago
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#1
based on your age and the fact that you have never done weights I would recomend getting a dumbell set is a waste, you should join a gym and use a range of machines to get yourself fitter, rather then just lifing weights. A proper exercise is in order, not just a upper body work out.

Although if you still just want to take that option argos have a 20kg set I bought a while ago for £30 quid, it has ajustable weights which if used correctly will help you bulk up a bit
#2
IMO you should get the York 20kg Spinlock Cast Iron Dumbbell, even though they cost more than the rest they are worth it since they are cast iron instead of the cheapy plasticy ones and also York is a very good brand.
#3
Hmmm thx for the help. I would join the gym but im still at scholl and i need something small that will fit in my room so i can just do it in my spare time.
#4
Magic-man is the one your talking about in the 3rd link i posted?
#5
yep it is, its also made fully of metal with spin locks on, very good.

I think a gym is better for ya man, but if not go for that set, and do 3 sets of 10 reps once a day for each of the positions it shows in the instructions and you will tone up pretty fast. Probally best to start only lifting about 5k on each
#6
so do you thnik once i start to build up muscle my body fat should be reduced dramatically?

Also do the bars hurt your hand or are they ok?
#7
um when you start using them within about 2 weeks you will notice a difference in the shape and feel of your forearm, your arms will feel tenser and fat will be reduced, but obviously it could take longer dpeneding if you do it correctly and how much body fat you have, but its important to stress its not a cardio exercise.

the bars hurt a bit to start with, but my hands got used to it quickly
#8
go for the cast iron ones, you can always buy more disks, they will last a life time.

when i was a youth i couldnt afford to go to a gym, all i could afford was some dumb bells, then barbell, then bench.

you should be able to get a full body work out with the dumbells, you can do stomach, chest, arms, back and legs all quite easily with just dumbells.

you can also do cardio work with the dumbells as running up and down stairs holding the dumb bells is great for burning the excess blubber, strengthening the legs and getting the heart rate going.

do this before you actualy do any weight lifting, as your work out will be more effective with a faster heart rate ( for fat burning). you have to give yourself a long term goal though, dont go thinking you will be built like arnold within 6 weeks. you need to do a good 45 minutes per day if you want the fat loss, then when you want to improve muscle size, you will be moving to something slightly more complex but less days per week. as long as you keep going and dont miss many training sessions, you should be able to lose 2 stone in 3 months and make a big difference to the shape of your body.

also dont forget that just by lifting and excersising, you are not going to lose much weight, muscle weighs more than fat so dependant on how much fat you have, you may want to consider a high protein diet and cut out as much fat and junk as you can. tuna and chicken provide the cheapest big protein in a diet provided by parents as they normally purchase these things anyway. protein is the most important ingredient for muscle development, and the more muscle you have, the more quickly your body breaks down fat.

i would also invest in some leather lifting gloves, they are fingerless and apart from providing extra grip holding the bars, they also stop your hands from getting damaged.
#9
thx for the help brum
#10
hey brum - you lamount?
#11
magic-man
hey brum - you lamount?



no mate, or at least i dont think i do?:?

is it a name or a verb? , as in, 'i had a lamount this morning'.

:oops:
#12
My recommendation would be weight training 3 times a week, and cardio 3 times a week, plenty of protein, ensure you get enough carbs too. Eat a high GI food (White Bread, potatoes etc) and a portion of protein (a can of tuna - 25g or so) after weight training. This will prevent the body turning to muscle for an energy source.

Brum said pretty much it all. For cardio, why not try some skipping? Apparently, 3 times more effective than jogging, so 10 minutes would be 30 mins jogging.
#13
manzi
Recently my docter has been has told me too burn some fat before my asthma begins to get worse so after asking around I think im gonna need a dumbell set to burn of the fat in my body, and hopefully turn it into muscles.


You cannot turn fat into muscle, just as muscle does not turn into fat.

Lifting weights is not the most effective way of burning fat, you really need to do some walking/cycling/running/skiing for 30+ minutes a day AND evaluate your current eating habits.
#14
yh i guess your right erics but i cant really be bothered to to all that, as i want something that i will be able to do in my bedroom.

Any other suggestions as to which one to get?
#15
Spriggan
IMO you should get the York 20kg Spinlock Cast Iron Dumbbell, even though they cost more than the rest they are worth it since they are cast iron instead of the cheapy plasticy ones and also York is a very good brand.


I got that exact set for Christmas - I recommend them, although they are the first weights I have.
#16
ok thx for the help everyone. Also barbour9 do the bars hurt your hands?
#17
Ever heard of "You are what you eat?"

Seriously, it's true! Down that water (2.5 - 3 Litres per day), eat healthy fats, lower your carbs, loads more protein, cardio 3 times a week, and weight training for muscle gain. Muscle burns fat like mad, so build it up!

You cannot just do it in the bedroom mate, sorry! Changing your lifestyle is not a part time thing!

It's 1st Jan 2007 - make it your new years resolution! :-D
#18
Ok i WILL!

Thx for the advice MattC! Oh and what kind of easy cardio excersises can i do?
#19
manzi
Ok i WILL!

Thx for the advice MattC! Oh and what kind of easy cardio excersises can i do?


Start by walking whenever you can, take the stairs rather than lifts/escalators, ride a bike when its too far to walk (and the weather is favourable). Get your friends to join you in the activities. The key is not to do too much to soon, start gentle and build up, and try and incorporate it into your life. If you start off trying to do too much or have to go out of your way to use exercise machines you, it will end up putting you off and you won't make the time to do it. You need to build it into your lifestyle and that is best by making small changes rather than radical ones that you will soon give up on. When you start to see and feel the benefits you may get hooked and push yourself further/harder, but do this too soon and you'll ache and hurt and start to find excuses not to do it.

I think weights are the wrong approach if you are trying to address weight (fat) and asthma, cardio work will help you more. I've been to weightlifting clubs for many years and seen people who can lift heavy weights, but couldn't run around a football field for half an hour without oxygen!
#20
But weights are key to building muscle. And muscle burns fat like mad! Cardio works with muscle (assuming correct amounts of protein is used, else you will start to eat muscle away). The muscles are used when running. If they are larger, they consume more fuel, and so fat loss is burnt.

Infact, weight lifting shoots that metabolism up sky high, and so weight lifting morning will keep that metabolism high during the day, burning fat constantly.

I stress water again :p - Drink LOTS of it, your body cannot work properly without adequate water. Best way to know if you drank enough is if your urine is clear hahah :p
#21
MattC
But weights are key to building muscle. And muscle burns fat like mad! Cardio works with muscle (assuming correct amounts of protein is used, else you will start to eat muscle away). The muscles are used when running. If they are larger, they consume more fuel, and so fat loss is burnt.

Infact, weight lifting shoots that metabolism up sky high, and so weight lifting morning will keep that metabolism high during the day, burning fat constantly.

I stress water again :p - Drink LOTS of it, your body cannot work properly without adequate water. Best way to know if you drank enough is if your urine is clear hahah :p


I am of the opinion that weight training alone is an ineffective exercise programme to reduce body fat and increase over all fitness. I guess it depends what "fitness" goals you are after and the improvement that would have on asthma. I would have thought you would want a lean body type to reduce the oxygen demands, not to increase it by increasing body mass through muscle? I have seen people bulging with muscles try out for sport teams (rowing) only to fail because they do not have the conditioning that cardio work gives you. If you do do weights I would also try and do some good cardio work as well - it will also strengthen your heart and lungs more effectively than weight training alone. I can see the attraction of weight training as I was a gym-junking for 5+ years going 4+ times a week, fortunately I also had to ride 10 miles to work each day which was also a good cardio work out. I now do less weights and take part in triathlons.

Agree with the comment about drinking water, the majority of people do not drink enough water to be hydrated throughout the day. A guy at my sports club had some scales that measure hydration, amoung other things, and the majority of people were training well below recommended hydration levels.
#22
Hi,

Like other have said its not just about building muscle and exercising, what you eat is a vital part of getting fit and shredding the pounds.

I decided back in the summer to make a change and I know you see all these diet books etc that cost a fortune.

Well I can truthfully vouch for "the abs diet" its by David zinczenco - Mens health magazine editor.

I found this book great, its in fact two books that I bought that parner one another.

It has numerous pages on exercises with and without dumbells, many of which you can do at home, it has a full weekly workout plan.

More importantly it goes into detail about foods, what to eat and what to stay away from, but really not restrictive, in fact I found I was eating far more - but the right stuff! providing enerygy, protein, the right fats! - and actually eating six meals a day.


Check it out you can pick them up for a few pounds I got mine from amazon as a pair and cost a tenner ish.

It really is about a lifestyle change if you stick to it and you will see results in a matter of weeks its really not a diet gets great reviews by critics too.


Another tip get some protein shakes, taste great and an excellent suppliment to your diet get additional protein into your system. Good for pre and post work outs.

before you say it, no i dont work for them and am not on commission lol.

Just a great read with so much useful info and really worth the spend!
#23
is that Nourishment drink a protein drink? Oh and i would do more cardio exercise but my school works prevents me from doing it which is why i turned to weight lifting.

If i lift some weights everyday and drink and eat high protein foods should that lower the fat by turning it into muscle?
#24
You cannot turn it into muscle. How ever, it can be a fuel in the process of building muscle! Fuel is burnt, therefore the muscle will be burnt!
#25
manzi
is that Nourishment drink a protein drink? Oh and i would do more cardio exercise but my school works prevents me from doing it which is why i turned to weight lifting.

If i lift some weights everyday and drink and eat high protein foods should that lower the fat by turning it into muscle?


You can find the time for weight training but not cardio exercise??? How long do you think you will spend weight training? It sounds to me you are making excuses already.

I am sure you can make time, especially at weekends to take some cardio exercise, sure it may mean you have to give something else up but as someone else pointed out, its a lifestyle choice.

You could also walk to school if you don't do so already, perhaps leave a little earlier than usual and walk a longer route. May be it's not cool to exercise:whistling:
#26
i already take 15 mins walk to and from school so 30 mins everyday.

And does anyone know if the York 20kg Spinlock Cast Iron Dumbbell Set hurts your hands?
#27
manzi
i already take 15 mins walk to and from school so 30 mins everyday.

And does anyone know if the York 20kg Spinlock Cast Iron Dumbbell Set hurts your hands?


Thats a start then, on the way home you could take a longer route and up the pace so you are out of breath a little to increase the exercise.

Most weight training bars are textured to allow you to get a better grip on them. Until your hands toughen-up it possibly could make them a little sore to start with, but they will toughen up. When you first start you may be a little sore everywhere ("No pain, no gain" is often banded around gyms!) If you are worried you can buy leather gloves, or wrap some old toweling around the bar first.
#28
So the 18Kg Cast Iron Dumbell Set for £20 from Tesco is worth it compared to the York 20kg Spinlock Cast Iron Dumbbell for £30. AS its only 2kg difference and as far as im awar there the same except the York one has more better material for the weights?
#29
oh yh and i forgot to mention my school has ALOT of stairs - the most ive seen in my life, as my shool is very big, so will that 30 mins of walking a day and the stairs sort out my cardio work out?

So all i will need to do is drink more water and eat more protein, and lift weights?
#30
manzi
oh yh and i forgot to mention my school has ALOT of stairs - the most ive seen in my life, as my shool is very big, so will that 30 mins of walking a day and the stairs sort out my cardio work out?

So all i will need to do is drink more water and eat more protein, and lift weights?


Yes of course, drink more water, eat more protein, lift a weight and you will instantly become fitter, stronger, and leaner. Its that easy, I cannot imagine why people bother to even bother to get out of breath in the pursuit of fitness, health, and weightloss.:giggle:
#31
ok so your only 16, therefore your diet should not be so rigid, your still growing so need nourishment first an foremost.

as for turning the fat into muscle, this cant physiologically happen.

however, when a person first starts training with weights and cardio there is usually a period where bodyfat is burnt and muscle mass is increased, this is called the honeymoon period, it happens because your shocking your body and increasing fuel output as well as stimulating muscle for growth. thus it would seem your fat is turning to muscle.

as for your training, there loads of ways to train, if your doing weights and cardio do cardio after, your glycogen stores will be depleted from the weights and your body will turn to fat stores to fuel the cardio and burn more body fat.

dont listen when people say to do loads of reps and sets, muscles are not 'toned' thats just a word invented by fitness marketing people in the 80's.

if you want anymore info or some tips feel free to pm me.

oh and dietary fats are not bad, google 'essential fatty acids'.
#32
So i should drink water, lift weights for 1/2 hour a day, and walk where ever i can.

oH and is there any good online guides about how to lift weights to improve certain muscles?
#33
3 Litres of water if you can!

Lift weights 45 mins if you can.

Walk lots, try do some running/fast walking to increase intensity.

also: [url]www.bodybuilding.com[/url]

Consume your proteins too!!!!

Trial that for a month. If you want greater improvement in less time, you have to become more dedicated and make more changes!

The more you work, the greater your gain!
#34
lol i dont want to be taking supplements like that. I just want to turn fat into muscle thats it. I just want to do some weight lifting to improve my body fat.

Any does anyone know any more dumbell sets?
#35
You don't need supplements.

I gave you that site as it lists nearly every possible use for every possible weight/piece of equipment - how to do it properly without damaging yourself, and tonnes of videos!!
#36
oh sorry lol - i never realised. Thx for the help
#37
Why is your rep so RED manzi??!
#38
manzi
I just want to turn fat into muscle thats it.


You just don't get it do you? Oh well. You've had plenty of good advice in this thread but I suspect you'll ignore it and do nothing. Good luck.
#39
Why not grab this bargain instead? http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3353541.htm

I got that exact one two months ago and I've gone from about 14 stone to 12.5 in that time. Well worth considering if you have the space.

Let me just add that I drastically improved my diet and bought an exercise bike too.
#40
with regards the dumbells, 20kg is not enough, ideally you need to join a gym and realise that getting fit takes effort. make a choice, do you want your asthma to get worse or are you willing to realise what actually needs to be done to make it better and that it wont be easy.

also, dont go to bodybuilding.com, its full of idiots and very little advice.

if you really want some top notch advice about your diet and how to train, then visit [url]www.muscletalk.co.uk[/url]

its uk based site and has loads of helpful people and is very welcoming.

oh and one very last thing..... do you think its possible to turn butter (fat) into rump steak (meat/muscle) ??

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