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Hi, our 6 yr old son has very dry skin and mild eczema on face and hands.. doctor said its very common in this season and put E45.. now when we went to buy E45 there are so many options.. We bought th… Read More
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7m, 1w agoPosted 7 months, 1 week ago
Hi, our 6 yr old son has very dry skin and mild eczema on face and hands.. doctor said its very common in this season and put E45.. now when we went to buy E45 there are so many options.. We bought the red one which is Intense Recovery. But it doesnt mention eczema. However, the blue tube i.e. dermatological mentions eczema.. bit confused which one we should put on our boy? and if the intense recovery (Red) one is fine ?
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7m, 1w agoPosted 7 months, 1 week ago
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#1
cut out aspartame from his diet and ensure he drinks bottled water - this helped me.
#2
Hi my daughter suffers with eczema. E45 never worked for her. I recommend Aveeno cream or bath oil
#3
Hi, my 9 year old son suffered really and with eczema and we used E45 and oilatum for years nothing seemed to clear it.
A friend of mine mentioned Aveeno, it costs around £7.00 a bottle but can be given on prescription. It has worked miracles there are plenty of different types but I got the sensitive skin/dry skin. We have been using this for 2 months now and his face is completely free of eczema. Totally worth every penny.
Hope this helps
#4
What are you washing his face with ?
#5
My son had eczema and we tried a few creams that didn't work like e45, aveeno etc but we found cetraben worked well and he hasn't had any flare ups in a few years. He now uses norwegian formula for dry and sensitive skin after a bath and that keeps his skin nice and soft.
#6
Make the doctor give you a prescription for Balneum/Balneum+ medicated bath oil, use 2 caps per bath, and the longer he is in there the better, and try and get a referral to see a paediatric dermatologist, have a bath at least every other night until his skin starts to improve and PAT dry, dont rub. Dont be fobbed off with generic NHS stuff, it is nowhere near as good.

We lather our daughter up with Lidl "Cien" body lotion after her bath, with their intensive hand lotion for any particularly dry areas.

E45 isnt actually much use on its own, and is rather greasy; and there are medical reports that suggests it thins the skin, so shouldnt be used on young children.

Avoid all normal soaps and shampoos, genuine Tea Tree Oil products are usually OK on my daughter; also avoid Biological washing powders; Fairy, or Lidl/Aldi non bio are the best UK ones I have found - avoid anything with perfume.

We buy a lot of products from Lidl, they tend to be better quality, and have fewer additives in them, the Germans wont buy crap.

There is a range of soaps, shampoos and washing liquids by a US company called Puraderm, but you have to buy it directly from their US website, and it is rather expensive.

We have also tried Teana tea tree oil shampoo without any skin irritation.

You can try looking up "bleach baths", or take him swimming for an hour or so every week in a chlorinated pool, then a Balneum bath when you get home. They do actually work, although it does sound extreme until you read up on them.

Avoid man made fibres; use plain cotton or silk next to the skin - you might be able to get a prescription for silk body suits and leggings for night time use if you have a good doctor, they cost about £160+ each otherwise. Confuses the hell out of the girl at Boots when you take the prescription in!!


Has he been checked for a milk allergy?? If positive, then avoid beef, as it can contain the same proteins, also avoid mango as it is known to make the skin itchier.

Egg allergy - avoid hair conditioners, as they are usually full of the stuff.

This from a life long eczema sufferer.

Edited By: Gentle_Giant on Nov 19, 2016 20:20
#7
Asking a pharmacist would be your best bet.
#8
I'm a sufferer to. I use epaderm cream as you can wash hands and face with it. Brilliant cream as recommended by a dermatologist and o moisturise all over with it. E45 is very good though, although I had a reaction to it. Also consider cod liver oil tablets or krill oil tablets. Brilliant for the skin and you should notice them working in 14 days. Cheap from supermarkets. Just 1 a day will do.
#9
lisajoa5
Hi my daughter suffers with eczema. E45 never worked for her. I recommend Aveeno cream or bath oil
She may be allergic to lanolin in the E45, Aveeno & Cetaphil are lanolin free.
#10
I use cetaphil, available on perscription.
#11
Diprobase is good but what's good for the goose is not always good for the gander . If it is troublesome , get the doctor to prescribe a cream and try them all till you find one that works for him . You could end up spending a fortune otherwise
#12
Aveeno gets my vote! Helped our daughter out brilliantly when she was a baby, luckily she has now grown out of the dry skin condition, depending on age you can actually get it on prescription from your doctor
#13
Skin sensitivities vary from person to person, and unless anyone in here is a doctor or a pharmacist, it's a bit dangerous to offer out recommendations.

Just on this though, E45 has always aggravated my skin and it's certainly not as passive a cream as some would have you believe. Ask your doctor about Aveeno and whether it would be suitable for your child. I have used it for ages and it's the only moisturiser I can put on my skin - but again, very important to consult your doctor first.

Bear in mind that the sensitivity of the skin varies significantly from one part of the body to another, so don't assume that a cream that works on the hands won't be upsetting on the face.

I'm sure you know all this, but also avoid any of the sodium laureth/loryl sulphates. Awful stuff for us eczema sufferers.
#14
Maybe I should point out that I am a nursery nurse, so have been dealing with babies/young children and eczema for over 30 years.

As I said before, the doctor should NOT be fobbing you off with E45, ask to see the dermatologist at the local hospital and follow his advice, but Balneum has worked for all of the children I have dealt with - although creams have been prescribed on top, the oil opens up the pores and allows the creams/ointments to work more effectively.

BE CAREFUL with what creams get prescribed, many are steroid based, which can damage/age the skin if used for too long - hence avoiding them with my daughter.

My skin was wrecked by steroid creams when I was a child, the skin on my hands and feet looked 70 years old by the time I was a teenager.

Seriously, look up bleach baths, they arent as scary as they sound, and can give a huge improvement to the skin in only a few treatments - a swimming pool is like one giant, mild, bleach bath.
#15
Double bass is a better cream to uses I believe e45 make a it flare up even more
#16
My son developed it behind his knees and e45 did not help. I found that Sudocrem calmed it but only steroid cream stops a flare up. Anyone ever noticed that suncream helps? my boys eczema has disappeared since our holidays and I can only put it down to having suncream on every day.
#17
Gentle_Giant
Maybe I should point out that I am a nursery nurse, so have been dealing with babies/young children and eczema for over 30 years.

As I said before, the doctor should NOT be fobbing you off with E45, ask to see the dermatologist at the local hospital and follow his advice, but Balneum has worked for all of the children I have dealt with - although creams have been prescribed on top, the oil opens up the pores and allows the creams/ointments to work more effectively.

BE CAREFUL with what creams get prescribed, many are steroid based, which can damage/age the skin if used for too long - hence avoiding them with my daughter.

My skin was wrecked by steroid creams when I was a child, the skin on my hands and feet looked 70 years old by the time I was a teenager.

Seriously, look up bleach baths, they arent as scary as they sound, and can give a huge improvement to the skin in only a few treatments - a swimming pool is like one giant, mild, bleach bath.


Agree with you about bleach baths, my mother said that swimming pools seemed to calm my brothers eczema when he was a child.
#18
E45 isn't much use, I've suffered with Psoriasis since I was young, when I had a very big flare up I ended up using UVB/UVA treatment and still do to this day, went from having an entirely covered core (I'm not kidding), to almost nothing as long as I stay on top of it.

There's lots of forums that advise on ways to help, I use Doublebass which is 100x better as a daily moisturiser than E45, also using non-bio and no softeners on clothes is a good tip, along with shower gel/shampoo without parabens or SLS (TK Maxx usually have a very large selection, alternatively use Halos and Horns from Morissons).

There's a lot more you can do, I'd suggest looking at the Psoriasis forums, I know you say its eczema but I was wrongly diagnosed as that when I was younger, but they can essentially be treated in the same way anyway.
#19
jo888
Gentle_Giant
Maybe I should point out that I am a nursery nurse, so have been dealing with babies/young children and eczema for over 30 years.
As I said before, the doctor should NOT be fobbing you off with E45, ask to see the dermatologist at the local hospital and follow his advice, but Balneum has worked for all of the children I have dealt with - although creams have been prescribed on top, the oil opens up the pores and allows the creams/ointments to work more effectively.
BE CAREFUL with what creams get prescribed, many are steroid based, which can damage/age the skin if used for too long - hence avoiding them with my daughter.
My skin was wrecked by steroid creams when I was a child, the skin on my hands and feet looked 70 years old by the time I was a teenager.
Seriously, look up bleach baths, they arent as scary as they sound, and can give a huge improvement to the skin in only a few treatments - a swimming pool is like one giant, mild, bleach bath.
Agree with you about bleach baths, my mother said that swimming pools seemed to calm my brothers eczema when he was a child.

Salt water also helps, but obviously if the skin is cracked, the salt will sting; were you having a beach holiday??

I noticed this many years ago, you dont even have to go into the water, as there is plenty of salt laden air coming in on the breeze.
A a child, we lived in Weston Super Mud, and it wasnt until we moved to the Midlands when I was eight, that I remember my eczema getting really bad.
#20
Gentle_Giant
jo888
Gentle_Giant
Maybe I should point out that I am a nursery nurse, so have been dealing with babies/young children and eczema for over 30 years.
As I said before, the doctor should NOT be fobbing you off with E45, ask to see the dermatologist at the local hospital and follow his advice, but Balneum has worked for all of the children I have dealt with - although creams have been prescribed on top, the oil opens up the pores and allows the creams/ointments to work more effectively.
BE CAREFUL with what creams get prescribed, many are steroid based, which can damage/age the skin if used for too long - hence avoiding them with my daughter.
My skin was wrecked by steroid creams when I was a child, the skin on my hands and feet looked 70 years old by the time I was a teenager.
Seriously, look up bleach baths, they arent as scary as they sound, and can give a huge improvement to the skin in only a few treatments - a swimming pool is like one giant, mild, bleach bath.
Agree with you about bleach baths, my mother said that swimming pools seemed to calm my brothers eczema when he was a child.

Salt water also helps, but obviously if the skin is cracked, the salt will sting; were you having a beach holiday??

I noticed this many years ago, you dont even have to go into the water, as there is plenty of salt laden air coming in on the breeze.
A a child, we lived in Weston Super Mud, and it wasnt until we moved to the Midlands when I was eight, that I remember my eczema getting really bad.


yes we was! I was expecting it to get really bad with sea and sand most days but it vanished! I assumed it was the suncream but guess your right about salt water!
#21
jo888
Gentle_Giant
Maybe I should point out that I am a nursery nurse, so have been dealing with babies/young children and eczema for over 30 years.

As I said before, the doctor should NOT be fobbing you off with E45, ask to see the dermatologist at the local hospital and follow his advice, but Balneum has worked for all of the children I have dealt with - although creams have been prescribed on top, the oil opens up the pores and allows the creams/ointments to work more effectively.

BE CAREFUL with what creams get prescribed, many are steroid based, which can damage/age the skin if used for too long - hence avoiding them with my daughter.

My skin was wrecked by steroid creams when I was a child, the skin on my hands and feet looked 70 years old by the time I was a teenager.

Seriously, look up bleach baths, they arent as scary as they sound, and can give a huge improvement to the skin in only a few treatments - a swimming pool is like one giant, mild, bleach bath.


Agree with you about bleach baths, my mother said that swimming pools seemed to calm my brothers eczema when he was a child.


Really? I swim twice a week and my skin is on fire when I get out. Feet, back of legs. Neck and hands. I'm slapping the moisturiser on before and after. Guess like other comments, each person is different. My knees have gone so swimming is the best for me
#22
wayners
jo888
Gentle_Giant
Maybe I should point out that I am a nursery nurse, so have been dealing with babies/young children and eczema for over 30 years.

As I said before, the doctor should NOT be fobbing you off with E45, ask to see the dermatologist at the local hospital and follow his advice, but Balneum has worked for all of the children I have dealt with - although creams have been prescribed on top, the oil opens up the pores and allows the creams/ointments to work more effectively.

BE CAREFUL with what creams get prescribed, many are steroid based, which can damage/age the skin if used for too long - hence avoiding them with my daughter.

My skin was wrecked by steroid creams when I was a child, the skin on my hands and feet looked 70 years old by the time I was a teenager.

Seriously, look up bleach baths, they arent as scary as they sound, and can give a huge improvement to the skin in only a few treatments - a swimming pool is like one giant, mild, bleach bath.


Agree with you about bleach baths, my mother said that swimming pools seemed to calm my brothers eczema when he was a child.


Really? I swim twice a week and my skin is on fire when I get out. Feet, back of legs. Neck and hands. I'm slapping the moisturiser on before and after. Guess like other comments, each person is different. My knees have gone so swimming is the best for me


i guess everyone is different. Im lucky because my sons eczema has stayed away so far and school swimming lessons didnt cause a flare up but yes my mothers adamant that somehow the swimming pool calmed my brothers eczema down. She also would not have squash in the house because that irritated it
#23
jo888
wayners
jo888
Gentle_Giant
Maybe I should point out that I am a nursery nurse, so have been dealing with babies/young children and eczema for over 30 years.
As I said before, the doctor should NOT be fobbing you off with E45, ask to see the dermatologist at the local hospital and follow his advice, but Balneum has worked for all of the children I have dealt with - although creams have been prescribed on top, the oil opens up the pores and allows the creams/ointments to work more effectively.
BE CAREFUL with what creams get prescribed, many are steroid based, which can damage/age the skin if used for too long - hence avoiding them with my daughter.
My skin was wrecked by steroid creams when I was a child, the skin on my hands and feet looked 70 years old by the time I was a teenager.
Seriously, look up bleach baths, they arent as scary as they sound, and can give a huge improvement to the skin in only a few treatments - a swimming pool is like one giant, mild, bleach bath.
Agree with you about bleach baths, my mother said that swimming pools seemed to calm my brothers eczema when he was a child.
Really? I swim twice a week and my skin is on fire when I get out. Feet, back of legs. Neck and hands. I'm slapping the moisturiser on before and after. Guess like other comments, each person is different. My knees have gone so swimming is the best for me
i guess everyone is different. Im lucky because my sons eczema has stayed away so far and school swimming lessons didnt cause a flare up but yes my mothers adamant that somehow the swimming pool calmed my brothers eczema down. She also would not have squash in the house because that irritated it

It is a chlorinated pool or a brominated (spl??) pool?? (ie, uses bromine instead of chlorine). The latter are rare, but there are a few around, I used to get a very mild burning sensation in brominated pools, but nothing beyond that, even after many hours of exposure.

I would also suggest trying a different pool, as the chemical load in yours might be excessive - hence the issue.

I remember a pool local to me having to be evacuated, because they had pumped so much chlorine into the water, chlorine gas started forming on the surface. (Chlorine being cheaper than paying someone to keep the pool clean).

Also, try NOT putting the moisturiser on, it might be reacting with the chemicals in the pool.

Edited By: Gentle_Giant on Nov 20, 2016 21:39

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