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will I get full 52mbs fibre with a 200mbs power line?

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With my BT infinity due to activate next week, I was planning to buy a pair of power lines to connect my pc as it will be too far from the router. I can go wifi, but I'm pretty sure my cheap 3£ eBay w… Read More
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6m, 2w agoPosted 6 months, 2 weeks ago
With my BT infinity due to activate next week, I was planning to buy a pair of power lines to connect my pc as it will be too far from the router. I can go wifi, but I'm pretty sure my cheap 3£ eBay wifi dongle will throttle me.
Will a 200mbs power line give me my full fibre speed of 52mbs?
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6m, 2w agoPosted 6 months, 2 weeks ago
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Incase anyone is wondering, the answer is Yes. My line went active today and I was getting 52mbs via my 200mbs Powerline. The speed was the same via a direct Ethernet connection too.

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#1
Full speed as in your maximum line capacity?

Simple answer is no.

Speeds degrade as they travel through the cable and you will achieve about 80% of your connection if the wiring is good.

Also allot of powerline adapters have 100mbps Ethernet ports even tho there 300/500mbps which is silly. Check the spec of yours beforehand.
#2
AStonedRaichu
Full speed as in your maximum line capacity?
Simple answer is no.
Speeds degrade as they travel through the cable and you will achieve about 80% of your connection if the wiring is good.
Also allot of powerline adapters have 100mbps Ethernet ports even tho there 300/500mbps which is silly. Check the spec of yours beforehand.
well the net speed im estimated to get is a full 52mbs
#3
depending on the distance from your power socket to the other power socket (as thats why you are using the power line adaptors) it should more or less reach what you would get if you were connected directly to the router, however you need to factor the slightly higher lag/ping/latency/interference and sometimes unstable due to the quality of your electrical cabling/power line adaptors.
There's also a choice of 500mbs ones which will reach longer distances.
Or maybe go wifi repeaters that might work.
#4
ronzza
depending on the distance from your power socket to the other power socket (as thats why you are using the power line adaptors) it should more or less reach what you would get if you were connected directly to the router, however you need to factor the slightly higher lag/ping/latency/interference and sometimes unstable due to the quality of your electrical cabling/power line adaptors.
There's also a choice of 500mbs ones which will reach longer distances.
Or maybe go wifi repeaters that might work.
dont actually need a wifi extender as im only about 5 meters from where the router will be lol but its in the passage with a awall between the pc and it. and im in an flat so wiring should be ok, although not sure about the quality of them. i could run an etherwire but i dont really want to route 15m of wire around the edges of door frames.
#5
K0YS
ronzza
depending on the distance from your power socket to the other power socket (as thats why you are using the power line adaptors) it should more or less reach what you would get if you were connected directly to the router, however you need to factor the slightly higher lag/ping/latency/interference and sometimes unstable due to the quality of your electrical cabling/power line adaptors.
There's also a choice of 500mbs ones which will reach longer distances.
Or maybe go wifi repeaters that might work.
dont actually need a wifi extender as im only about 5 meters from where the router will be lol but its in the passage with a awall between the pc and it. and im in an flat so wiring should be ok, although not sure about the quality of them. i could run an etherwire but i dont really want to route 15m of wire around the edges of door frames.

Oh it's on the same floor? That means it's on the same circuit of the first powerline adapter. Speed will be flawless pal.
#6
AStonedRaichu
K0YS
ronzza
depending on the distance from your power socket to the other power socket (as thats why you are using the power line adaptors) it should more or less reach what you would get if you were connected directly to the router, however you need to factor the slightly higher lag/ping/latency/interference and sometimes unstable due to the quality of your electrical cabling/power line adaptors.
There's also a choice of 500mbs ones which will reach longer distances.
Or maybe go wifi repeaters that might work.
dont actually need a wifi extender as im only about 5 meters from where the router will be lol but its in the passage with a awall between the pc and it. and im in an flat so wiring should be ok, although not sure about the quality of them. i could run an etherwire but i dont really want to route 15m of wire around the edges of door frames.

Oh it's on the same floor? That means it's on the same circuit of the first powerline adapter. Speed will be flawless pal.


Yes sorry, I should have mentioned that. I was just more concerned if I'd get the full speed of 52mbs of my internet through the 200 powerlines.
#7
This all assumes that you get 52mbs speed in the first place....52mbs is an estimated speed only and despite what bt say on their website regards guaranteed minimum speeds etc, the chances are you'll end up with 35-43mbs unless you live above your local exchange.
I'm 0.8 miles from my exchange and recently upgraded from infinity1 to infinity2 with guaranteed minimum speed of 60-62mbs.....didnt happen...engineer came out when i complained and after tweaking at the exchange and in my home, told me the best speed i could get would be 45-48mbs tops
#8
BT gives you an estimated speed on infinity packages, infinty 1 @ 52 or infinity @ 72 i think.
The estimated speed is fairly accurate though for me.
#9
BT Infinity here, estimated was 76/20 achieved 75/19 on a 30ft wired Ethernet, I have another PC on Homeplugs which are 100mb (50mb each way) achieves 35mb so the 80% isn't far off.

If you get 200mb (100mb each way) I think you will get the 52mb full speed as it's only 50% of the plugs capability, my plugs are 25 feet away, I also run 2 more to 2 sky boxes, no problems at all.

That is if you get 52mb to the door which sounds like you have gone for infinity 1 which is a max of 52mb, if that is your estimate you probably can go faster on infinity 2, use the postcode and line checker on BT to see you full estimated speed.
#10
loosescrew
I'm 0.8 miles from my exchange and recently upgraded from infinity1 to infinity2 with guaranteed minimum speed of 60-62mbs.....didnt happen...engineer came out when i complained and after tweaking at the exchange and in my home, told me the best speed i could get would be 45-48mbs tops

For FTTC I believe it's the line length to the green roadside cabinet that counts rather than the phone exchange.

AStonedRaichu
Full speed as in your maximum line capacity?
Simple answer is no.
Speeds degrade as they travel through the cable and you will achieve about 80% of your connection if the wiring is good.
Also allot of powerline adapters have 100mbps Ethernet ports even tho there 300/500mbps which is silly. Check the spec of yours beforehand.

It's very sensible given that AV500 adapters typically achieve less than 100Mbps in practice. It might cut off twenty or thirty megabits per second in the best case, but if 90 is insufficient then 120 likely is too.

A set of AV Homeplugs like you're considering will tend to top out at 40-60Mbps so there's a good chance it'll slightly restrict your speed and it's worth considering going for an AV500 set instead.
#11
EndlessWaves
loosescrew
I'm 0.8 miles from my exchange and recently upgraded from infinity1 to infinity2 with guaranteed minimum speed of 60-62mbs.....didnt happen...engineer came out when i complained and after tweaking at the exchange and in my home, told me the best speed i could get would be 45-48mbs tops
For FTTC I believe it's the line length to the green roadside cabinet that counts rather than the phone exchange.
AStonedRaichu
Full speed as in your maximum line capacity?
Simple answer is no.
Speeds degrade as they travel through the cable and you will achieve about 80% of your connection if the wiring is good.
Also allot of powerline adapters have 100mbps Ethernet ports even tho there 300/500mbps which is silly. Check the spec of yours beforehand.
It's very sensible given that AV500 adapters typically achieve less than 100Mbps in practice. It might cut off twenty or thirty megabits per second in the best case, but if 90 is insufficient then 120 likely is too.
A set of AV Homeplugs like you're considering will tend to top out at 40-60Mbps so there's a good chance it'll slightly restrict your speed and it's worth considering going for an AV500 set instead.

Correct, my cabinet is 50 yards away hence the reason I get full speed.
#12
EndlessWaves
loosescrew
I'm 0.8 miles from my exchange and recently upgraded from infinity1 to infinity2 with guaranteed minimum speed of 60-62mbs.....didnt happen...engineer came out when i complained and after tweaking at the exchange and in my home, told me the best speed i could get would be 45-48mbs tops
For FTTC I believe it's the line length to the green roadside cabinet that counts rather than the phone exchange.
AStonedRaichu
Full speed as in your maximum line capacity?
Simple answer is no.
Speeds degrade as they travel through the cable and you will achieve about 80% of your connection if the wiring is good.
Also allot of powerline adapters have 100mbps Ethernet ports even tho there 300/500mbps which is silly. Check the spec of yours beforehand.
It's very sensible given that AV500 adapters typically achieve less than 100Mbps in practice. It might cut off twenty or thirty megabits per second in the best case, but if 90 is insufficient then 120 likely is too.
A set of AV Homeplugs like you're considering will tend to top out at 40-60Mbps so there's a good chance it'll slightly restrict your speed and it's worth considering going for an AV500 set instead.

I have the AV2000 and 300mbps cable broadband I lose about 1/3rd of my speed through the powerline adapter, no wifi tho in my bedroom.

As above I would go for the AV500+ as I believe those 500 and above have dual band beam forming.

Edited By: AStonedRaichu on Dec 05, 2016 15:34
#13
It's this pair by the way
BT Arcnet Powerline Adapter Twin Pack with Passthrough - 200Mbps £19.99 - Free Delivery @ My Memory http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/bt-arcnet-powerline-adapter-twin-pack-with-passthrough-200mbps-19-99-free-delivery-2565062
#14
its a good price for a pass through. :)
#15
ronzza
its a good price for a pass through. :)
YEH THE COME TO THIS PRICE EVERY FEW MONTHS AND I DO NEED PASS THROUGH AS IM LIMITED TO SOCKETS AND DONT WANT TRAILING EXTENSIONS.
SORRY FOR CAPS, TOO MUCH TO EDIT NOW LOL
#16
Where I live they bring the fibre cable straight to the house. I am on my isp's 75 Mbps package and I get slightly over that. I got the engineer to put the modem back of my TV and that's where the router is as most of my internet use is in the lounge. I get the full speed using my WiFi in the lounge too according to speedtests. Farthest point in the house though only gets 3mbps due to the carpy zyxel router they give out. Some tests prove that you get more loss using power lines compared with WiFi boosters. Same as most things is it will depend what you spend.
#17
Incase anyone is wondering, the answer is Yes. My line went active today and I was getting 52mbs via my 200mbs Powerline. The speed was the same via a direct Ethernet connection too.

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