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I've been looking at booking an ultra all inclusive 5* resort in Makadi Beach, Egypt. I would fly in to Hurghada. I know that Sharm and Cairo aren't safe at the moment so have no plans on travellin… Read More
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5m, 3w agoPosted 5 months, 3 weeks ago
I've been looking at booking an ultra all inclusive 5* resort in Makadi Beach, Egypt. I would fly in to Hurghada.

I know that Sharm and Cairo aren't safe at the moment so have no plans on travelling whilst on holiday. I will literally stay in the resort as it has so much there and will go snorkelling.

I'm looking at going in February. I am aware that 3 planes have come down in the last year and there are terrorist warnings in place in Egypt but would you travel there if you weren't going to leave the resort?

Just interested in people's educated opinions.
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5m, 3w agoPosted 5 months, 3 weeks ago
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rogparki
You asked for educated opinion (which you haven't received so far !) . A small risk as compared to a minute risk in say Spain , The Canaries , Greece etc . Would you be happy to take any greater risk to save a few hundred quid ? Each to their own and bear in mind the current Foreign Office advice and also be aware it could change at any time .
No one can advise you on how much risk you should take (particularly the self styled "experts" on HUKD) Do your research and decide for yourself . Is the risk and worrying about the risk worth the few hundred quid you would save ? Your decision .

Not sure why you think the opinions that have been expressed so far aren't educated? The OP has specifically asked for advice and given he has asked for it on HUKD then presumably it is HUKD members he wants that advice from? Anybody can advise on how much risk the OP should take, it is of course entirely down to the OP what he/she does with that advice.

Are you just grumpy because it's work tomorrow? ;)

Edited By: Mildlytight on Oct 30, 2016 22:42

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#1
if it's cheap, but if your not leaving the complex why not go somewhere you consider safe.
#2
Yes, been to different parts of Egypt well over 10 times. Some of which was spent on a liveaboard diving boat.
#3
No chance.
#4
Personally not at the moment
#5
I wouldn't like to risk it, there's plenty of other places id consider first. Knowing someone who was in a terrorist situation, it's ruined their life.
#6
No not at present
#7
Not worth the risk
#8
You asked for educated opinion (which you haven't received so far !) . A small risk as compared to a minute risk in say Spain , The Canaries , Greece etc . Would you be happy to take any greater risk to save a few hundred quid ? Each to their own and bear in mind the current Foreign Office advice and also be aware it could change at any time .

No one can advise you on how much risk you should take (particularly the self styled "experts" on HUKD) Do your research and decide for yourself . Is the risk and worrying about the risk worth the few hundred quid you would save ? Your decision .
#9
rogparki
You asked for educated opinion (which you haven't received so far !) . A small risk as compared to a minute risk in say Spain , The Canaries , Greece etc . Would you be happy to take any greater risk to save a few hundred quid ? Each to their own and bear in mind the current Foreign Office advice and also be aware it could change at any time .
No one can advise you on how much risk you should take (particularly the self styled "experts" on HUKD) Do your research and decide for yourself . Is the risk and worrying about the risk worth the few hundred quid you would save ? Your decision .

Not sure why you think the opinions that have been expressed so far aren't educated? The OP has specifically asked for advice and given he has asked for it on HUKD then presumably it is HUKD members he wants that advice from? Anybody can advise on how much risk the OP should take, it is of course entirely down to the OP what he/she does with that advice.

Are you just grumpy because it's work tomorrow? ;)

Edited By: Mildlytight on Oct 30, 2016 22:42
#10
Yes. More likely to die in any European major city.
banned#11
Been to Egypt 3 times.

& let me tell you this.... If Sharm isnt safe the rest of Egypt isnt either.

Not just talking holidaying but your flight will also encroach dodgy fly zones.

Minimal risk but not worth it in my mind
#12
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. I went to Makadi bay in August. Jaz Aquaviva to be precise. I took the whole family, not on a whim, but did research and assessed the risk. F&CO advice is green light for that area. One of the best holidays I have had. Rebooked for same time next year immediately on my return. I couldn't recommend it enough, but do your homework and go where you feel comfortable. Tripadviser is a great place for genuine opinions from travellers who have been.
#13
The fact youre asking personally says it all , trust your own instinct
banned#14
antmatz
Tripadviser is a great place for genuine opinions from travellers who have been.

Tripadvisor is the worst place to find out if a holiday destination is currently secure & safe.

All you have is past reports & no current information.

That is VERY dangerous advice.
#15
YouDontWantToKnow
Been to Egypt 3 times.
& let me tell you this.... If Sharm isnt safe the rest of Egypt isnt either.
Not just talking holidaying but your flight will also encroach dodgy fly zones.
Minimal risk but not worth it in my mind

Thank you for telling us all!
banned#16
Graham1979
YouDontWantToKnow
Been to Egypt 3 times.
& let me tell you this.... If Sharm isnt safe the rest of Egypt isnt either.
Not just talking holidaying but your flight will also encroach dodgy fly zones.
Minimal risk but not worth it in my mind
Thank you for telling us all!

No problem!!!
#17
YouDontWantToKnow
antmatz
Tripadviser is a great place for genuine opinions from travellers who have been.
Tripadvisor is the worst place to find out if a holiday destination is currently secure & safe.
All you have is past reports & no current information.
That is VERY dangerous advice.

A bit out of context. Foreign & commonwealth office is clearly the place for CURRENT advice. I would disagree with you that reading opinions from people who have been, i.e. on tripadviser, is a good area to research when making that decision.
#18
threat of terrorism in Egypt: High
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/egypt/terrorism

threat of terrorism in UK: Severe
https://www.mi5.gov.uk/threat-levels


the only thing that really matters is ability to eliminate those threats before they happen. But then looking at the recent news of a 22yo guy supposedly claiming to be 16 and being let in from the jungle to the UK would make me think that anywhere but UK is safer
banned#19
mattsokolinski
threat of terrorism in Egypt: Highhttps://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/egypt/terrorism
threat of terrorism in UK: Severehttps://www.mi5.gov.uk/threat-levels
the only thing that really matters is ability to eliminate those threats before they happen. But then looking at the recent news of a 22yo guy supposedly claiming to be 16 and being let in from the jungle to the UK would make me think that anywhere but UK is safer

Good to point out matt but they are measured on 2 different scales.

Excellent point about the "refugee child".. Not for the first time either.

Hope all is well in your life & you have stopped fretting so much about Brexit.
#20
Even if you are not put off by the terrorist threat, a lot of folk are. If you just want to look at bright blue fish by yourself, then fair enough but if you want a chat at the bar then you might be struggling.
#21
Why not just go to somewhere relatively safe (i.e. non-islamic) where you will have a much more relaxing holiday. A holiday is the last place to take totally unnecessary risks.
#22
^ "non islamic"... Sorry but that's a bad statement!
I wouldn't go to any dangerous countries such as egypt/tunisia etc at present but you can't call all islamic countries unsafe, that's totally untrue!
banned#23
stevemack
^ "non islamic"... Sorry but that's a bad statement!
I wouldn't go to any dangerous countries such as egypt/tunisia etc at present but you can't call all islamic countries unsafe, that's totally untrue!

The Maldives are lovely

Yet a population 100% muslim

Edited By: YouDontWantToKnow on Oct 31, 2016 02:16
#24
stevemack
^ "non islamic"... Sorry but that's a bad statement!
I wouldn't go to any dangerous countries such as egypt/tunisia etc at present but you can't call all islamic countries unsafe, that's totally untrue!


Its a fact tho at the moment your average british person associates islamic countries with terrorism. Its of course untrue as the terrorists use it as a cover to do what they do but unfortunately thats where we are at the moment

To answer the ops question i wouldnt go at present far too risky
#25
My dad does all the time! He's nuts to be fair
#26
Indonesia, Malaysia, Turkey are all Muslim countries too. You can't tar them all with the same brush
#27
itsdavidjones1984
Indonesia, Malaysia, Turkey are all Muslim countries too. You can't tar them all with the same brush


I couldnt agree more the point i was making is at the present time thats exactly what most people are doing and to be fair you cant really blame them

Its a shame as theyre mostly nice countries with great people and their tourism has largely been ruined
#28
This Fco comment puts me off

Protests and demonstrations
Protests, marches and demonstrations can occur across Egypt, often on Fridays, but also at other times and with little prior notice. If you become aware of any nearby protests, marches or demonstrations you should leave the area immediately as the atmosphere can change quickly and without warning. Police may use water cannon, tear gas, birdshot or live ammunition for crowd control.

You should keep valid photographic identification with you at all times. Westerners, including British nationals, have been killed, raped and sexually assaulted in crowds – including at celebratory events as well as at demonstrations and protests.
banned#29
Don't do it. Spain is safe.
#30
YouDontWantToKnow
stevemack
^ "non islamic"... Sorry but that's a bad statement!
I wouldn't go to any dangerous countries such as egypt/tunisia etc at present but you can't call all islamic countries unsafe, that's totally untrue!

The Maldives are lovely

Yet a population 100% muslim


Exactly my point!

Too many people who stereotype sadly, just because of a minority group, people tar the whole religion with the same brush!
#31
Ps, I should add I'm atheist so any religion doesn't matter to me it's all nonsense but I still leave other other people to have their own beliefs, that's their prerogative!
#32
Are you sure you'd be ok cooped up in a hotel for the full stay?
If the weather is iffy or the sea is rough it really limits what you can do.
#33
The resort's would probably be dead etc. Probably be peaceful and relaxing but deserted with a lack of tourism.
#34
stevemack
Ps, I should add I'm atheist so any religion doesn't matter to me it's all nonsense but I still leave other other people to have their own beliefs, that's their prerogative!
To them you're an infidel ;).
#35
shauneco
stevemack
Ps, I should add I'm atheist so any religion doesn't matter to me it's all nonsense but I still leave other other people to have their own beliefs, that's their prerogative!
To them you're an infidel ;).


Judging by your previous comments about Muslims and the one above, I'd imagine you've got a quite a few terms to describe Muslims, which would probably make 'infidel' seem almost prudish.

I wonder if they go around thinking "there's an infidel'...'oh look another one'... 'wonder if she's an infidel'.

Ring ring "Hello Tesco customer service"
Muslim "Now look here, I only want to talk to a bona fide infedel....you see the needles on this Christmas tree have started fall off...."

Anyway i digress. OP I've been to Cairo after the protests and it was OK but I think if you're concerned enough to ask you'd be looking over your shoulder the whole time regardless of whether there is a genuine threat so please bear that in mind. Hope you have a great time where ever you go.
#36
I think a lot of people seem to forget about the amount of murders and crime that goes on in Western Worlds so you're not safe anywhere tbh.

Look at USA murder rate!
#37
I'm more than happy to just stay in the resort. It is a gorgeous resort and I can't imagine the weather would be "iffy" at that time of year. If the sea is rough then the 7 swimming pools will make up for that :)
#38
They were pretty desperate for holidaymakers money when there were a lot of people going.

Now there is hardly anyone going you will probably get a lot of attention.

If you are staying in the resort then it will be safer, just remember 5* doesn't always mean five star...
#39
sophieb1986
I'm more than happy to just stay in the resort. It is a gorgeous resort and I can't imagine the weather would be "iffy" at that time of year. If the sea is rough then the 7 swimming pools will make up for that :)
You do understand February is one of the coldest months right?
Get a bit of overcast and wind, you have a pretty meh weather.

I went to Egypt while back in late December (not to long after the Sharm El Sheikh bombings) and it was warm, but never really weather for any real time in the pool or sea.
It was a 4 or 5 * hotel, but it's pretty much dead that time of year and if your sticking within the walls there is only so many times you can have a walk along a beach and the grounds.

In the end we went on a few excursions and spend some cash at the spa. Even back then the excursions were interesting stopping by the local police station for armed guards and them having to check the toilets before anyone could use them.
#40
Of course I would. Sure bad things have happened, but name a country that is perfectly safe - oh wait, there isn't one. After all the crap that happened in France or years ago in the UK, did people stop visiting? No.

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