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#1
Wow brilliant! Includes server 2008 - nice one if you're a student!
Looks like if your kid is at High school and they sign up to dreamspark then your kid can download it too (or if you are at high school etc ...)
Heat & rep (even though i've got no way of getting this!)
#2
which ones are worth downloading?

I already have

VS 05
V PC
W server 2003.
#3
Thanks! Worked for me, you select your country then school/uni from the list then it takes you to the univeristy website to log in to verify that your a student.
#4
Thanks OP. My son will appreciate this info.
#5
This used to have Vista Business, XP Pro and Office on there (about a year ago), Office came off, then XP and Vista did too :(

Thank god I still have my key... :P
#6
imranmaz
server 2008 is nice...
havent used vs 2008 but the jump from 2003 to 2005 was big so it might be worth checking out if oyu code in .net

I use java with my linux box in NY at work now.... :-( soooooooooooooooooo sloooooooooowwwwwwww


I got :

XP pro
VS 05 (pretty good)
V PC
VISTA business
server 03

and a few other things free from my uni, but some of the things you listed are not on there. I might just download them for fun-zies and store them on my External HDD in case I ever need them.

I need to install Ubuntu on this machine when I finish this year of uni, then can I triple-boot lol.


vote hot btw, dont see why anyone would vote cold.
#7
anyone want to download me a copy
#8
I'm a student. Could I use one of these OS from Microsoft to replace the OS on my Aspire One?
#9
maddogb


The truth of the matter is MS make very good products but carry on business practices which leave the world a poorer place, this i fear is one of them.


There is no way any company (limited number of engineers / expertise) can compete with open source (freely available to anyone) products in the long run... this explains why MySQL was bought for $1bn by Sun Microsystems. And why Mozilla absolutely OWNS IE. This guy is 100% right in everything he has said about MS...

But I still think this is a good deal...but because of what this guy said I did not vote.
banned#10
rofl

Seriously, you're posting this deal like you're giving people free software for them to install on their home PC so they can play games and write letters to mum on a shiney new vista style OS.

These are SERVER OS's. They include stacks of server based services and applications, enhanced security layers, massively increased system resource requirements, etc. They are NOT for putting on home PC's as an alternative to getting a proper home OS like XP/Vista Premium. They will run like absolute **** and be a complete pain in the **** if you attempt to do this with them.

They are for students to install while they're on IT courses, so they can practice what they're learning. Its basically MS's way to draw students down into the MCSE route.
#11
Anarchist

These are SERVER OS's. They include stacks of server based services and applications, enhanced security layers, massively increased system resource requirements, etc. They are NOT for putting on home PC's as an alternative to getting a proper home OS like XP/Vista Premium. They will run like absolute **** and be a complete pain in the **** if you attempt to do this with them.



Well said. The comment that "Windows Server 2003 is like XP and Windows Server 2008 is like Vista" amused me a bit. Still a hot deal if you can take advantage, just don't expect either of these to be an o/s for day to day use like XP, Vista or Linux would be.
#12
im in secondar school, do i qualify
banned#13
KingsCross;4146761
I'm a student. Could I use one of these OS from Microsoft to replace the OS on my Aspire One?

imranmaz
yep you sure can


Worst, advice, ever.

Do NOT attempt to put these on a home PC, to use for general home applications/uses.
#14
imranmaz
yep you sure can


Oops just read the thread, software looks intensive...
#15
imranmaz
LOL dude... its free software man... that's it. that's all...

plus C# can do everything Java can if not simpler... I worked with C# for 14months.. worked with java for about 4years... I can do more in .net and faster than i can with java... at the end of the day people cuss MS... but linux is free.. why is it not number 1? cause the market doesnt like it.... think walking bare foot and walking with some comfortable shoes.. bare foot is free... but pay a little more and it makes things comfortable... but if you are a student you get those metaphorical shoes for free.

Africa isn't poor cause of MS. Africa wont get rich cause of linux so stop talking nonsense.


yes i can see money without conscience is an easy path, it's free so why not?, but if you are half as intelligent as you profess to be you know nothing is for free dude.
Also please refrain from referring to someones opinions as nonsense and implying they said things they didn't, it's simply bad manners.
#16
Don't most student get access to MSDNAA software, where you can get versions of vista, xp etc.
#17
Africa wont get rich cause of linux so stop talking nonsense.


He's not talking nonsense. He didn't even say Africa will get rich due to linux.
#18
Dreamspark has been around for ages... but is a great idea for students. Yes, it is blatant that all they are trying to do is to get students hooked on their products, so that buisnesses in the futute will have to fork out for their products, but apart from .net the other programming tools, what you will learn in them you can take away to other areas. Be warned with the upgrades though -MS like to chop bits and pieces in and out, so a piece of code that compiles fine in one version of something may not compile in another. MS's favourite trick that I have seen in VC++ is adding and removing libraries at random between versions.
On a side not the Linux comment I do not believe to be true - i think Linux is a better OS then Windows - it is the most commonly used OS on servers. I would say that is due more to the fact it is a) more powerful and b) a lot lot safer. I dont think price really comes into it.
On a second side note do not bother installing this as an OS on a home pc unless you know what you are doing - it really is not worth the hassle unless you dont mind messing around with it.
#19
Doesn't work with my sixthform details :(
banned#20
Seriously, this is just a way for MS to give exposure of their server OS's to IT students, so when they finish their training, and get jobs as systems analysts, they'll already be brainwashed into the MS culture (I'm not necessarily saying its a bad thing - I'm an MCSE myself). So, naturally they'll be more likely to install MS products, and pay MS lots more moneys.

Its a good deal, if you're sure the above is what you want. Its not a good deal if you're hoping to upgrade your windows 98 laptop/netbook that came with linux, to vista for free so you can have a nice aero desktop and send emails to mum.

They are NOT "like XP/Like Vista". On the surface they may look like it, but they aren't anything like it.
#21
This is brilliant. Thanks!
banned#22
Are there any limitations on the way I use the Microsoft tools I get through DreamSpark?
This software is the complete and professional grade versions of the tools, but you must use them in pursuit of increasing your education, skills, and knowledge in either science, technology, engineering, mathematics, or design.

OK, there you have it. Use it for any other purpose and its basically piracy and completely illegal.
#23
Thanks just logged in through the Newcastle uni gateway and my account's setup, you never know might have windows 7 on there before i leave uni :p
#24
zzzzzzzzz. Free software, er.. how can you complain?

I'm a programmer and I have to say, hands down, that Visual Studio is the best dev environment there is. Have you actually tried debugging on Linux? Have you? Really? If you had, then you would not be dissing this offer of Visual Studio 2008 Professional for free.
#25
Thanks OP I am a university student and these downloads will be handy.
#26
Hello, I've just started using Server 08 64bit instead of XP. This is quite good for gaming, once youve sorted out the changes. If you look at this link here, theres a guide on how to converte it so its even more like Vista.

http://www.win2008workstation.com/wordpress/


Or, you can use this "convertor" program, which does most of the hard work for you:

http://www.win2008workstation.com/wordpress/2008/07/17/windows-server-2008-workstation-converter/

Also, if you have a 64bit processor, you should download the 64bit version instead (not downloadable from dreamspark):

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=B6E99D4C-A40E-4FD2-A0F7-32212B520F50&WT.sp=_technet_,dcsjwb9vb00000c932fd0rjc7_5p3t&displaylang=en

You have to install the standard version (as with 32bit), and the cd key from Dreamspark will still work with the 64bit version.
#27
Quite nice to see M$ products at their true value.

A great chance to compare it with Linux, just to remind you how dire M$ is.

OK its probably good for gamers, but they like to sit playing with themselves at the PC!!!! :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling:
#28
potatouk
Don't most student get access to MSDNAA software, where you can get versions of vista, xp etc.


I'm doing my mcse and you get a trial that lasts 180days when you buy the study books. This really shouldn't have been posted as its for people studying for Microsoft qualifications and other I.T based jobs not for every tom dick and harry to install on there home PC Microsoft server is not for home its a network operating system designed for companies and may work at home but its for that that's what xp and vista home are for and from what i know if you don't have the right to use the O/S you can be prosecuted by Microsoft as you haven't paid for the software and they can track you through your ip address.
#29
Tom - Great site that, been using Server 2008 for a while now and recently used it to enable me to play games on it when I want. Oddly get higher framerates in games like GTA4 on Server 2008 than I did under XP or Vista.

Most games play with no problem at all especially once you've run through the workstation converter program - which incidentally doesn't impact much on any of the server based tools at all so you can still do work related stuff on it (which is why I have a full version of server 2008 at home!)
#30
imranmaz
I didnt say he did... I was making the point that MS didn't make Africa poor.. and so with the absence of MS.. using linux wouldnt make Africa rich


Africa is getting richer (Well East Africa at least) this is because of numerous economic factors, lower communication and technology costs is ONE of these factors. These lower costs are achieved ultimately through increased competition. But forget about Africa.

MS is an extremely anti competitive organisation...don't forget all the law suits.

Interestingly Gates foundation "gifts" also come with strings attached in developing nations, such as the inability to install any software not owned by MS on the networks including open source software.
http://aroundcny.com/technofile/texts/massa_bill.html

These practices are completely anti competitve and hence seek to make everyone 'poorer'...not just Africa.
#31
brilliant - just what i needed as the mrs. goes to uni then MS Server Y2K8 here i come!!!!!!!
#32
seriously - this is obviously at face value useful for people interested in either developing Microsoft products or evaluating their server products; and possibly testing them "other uses...!"
how can this be a bad deal - completely free if you have access to them and want them; no one has wasted any money on them if not: I would not know about it and be able to tell my brother - who is a student - about the good deals if it wasn't posted on this site. So thanks to the op for it. You don't have to love every deal ; it's like saying don't post makeup because of the males not wanting to purchase or don't post pet products because not everyone has a cat!

Another thing: if people really do want to test lots of Microsoft products there is always the £240 odd +VAT technet yearly subscription which allows you to download no - time -limit free evaluation versions of nearly all microsoft software for the sub. That does include Vista etc; and a proper retail license for Vista is not much less.

Lest not we forget that until 24th there is a free beta for Windows 7 available on Microsoft website for anyone who wants to try. That will work until August.
#33
polly69
I'm doing my mcse and you get a trial that lasts 180days when you buy the study books. This really shouldn't have been posted as its for people studying for Microsoft qualifications and other I.T based jobs not for every tom dick and harry to install on there home PC Microsoft server is not for home its a network operating system designed for companies and may work at home but its for that that's what xp and vista home are for and from what i know if you don't have the right to use the O/S you can be prosecuted by Microsoft as you haven't paid for the software and they can track you through your ip address.


It only says on the website that you have to be a student, which I am, and that website I posted above shows you how to use server 08 as a wokstation/gaming platform, complete with direct x 10. Games and programs ff work just fine. My dad also has it on his pc running under virtual machine in linux (btw hes also a student!)
1 Like #34
What it is:
A great deal for students needing development tools, has been around a while but doesn't seem to get publicised as much as I would have expected.

So much better than the express editions of Visual Studio :thumbsup:

What its not:
A way to get windows for free*.

*For most people at least.

Wouldn't recommend using a Server OS on normal machines unless you are fairly comfortable doing things yourself. i.e. solving problems, playing with settings. As far as I know there isn't a system restore to save you if it all goes wrong.

Installed server 08 a few days ago on my main desktop machine, not quite got round to playing with it yet but I dread to think the issues it would create if I set up a copy for my parents or something xD
#35
Thanks - will pass on to son, heat given
#36
wheres xp ? I cant seem to see it
banned#37
WTF happened to my post???
1 Like #38
The amount of rubbish in this thread is amazing..

The OS is a server OS but for 90% of people it will be just fine, they only browse facebook and use word and outlook anyways.. anyone who needs video acceleration and DX10 (ie gamers) will be the kind of people who know how to follow a 10 minute guide like: http://www.msfn.org/win2k3/ for example.

As for performance.. a PC that can play recent games has plenty of power to run these OSes just fine..

Microsoft arent developing home and server versions of OS'es seperate (except maybe server core) that would be an utter waste of time.. they did that up until Win Me but 2000 and above are all based on the NT core the same as server.


This is an AWESOME deal for students.. and theres no way Microsoft are going to come after you for using any of this software past the end of your student life, hell they probably dont even keep a record of the key being a student one - the software itself is identical to retail.. they have enough trouble with people who have blatent pirate copies! (Im still using loads of stuff I had to BUY as a student from MS when i was at uni (Win 2KPro and VS 6.0 costing me over £150) - In the VS 6 agreement that you had to sign and send off to get the discs it even states that you can use it after you are a student, you just cant distribute any of the code you make after being a student. Again the software is IDENTICAL to the pro version and theres no way they could tell even if they wanted too.

Linux is great.. at home i use a mix of windows and gentoo linux.. but why everyone needs to mention it in a thread about free microsoft software I dont get.

The simple fact is for most basic home use these OSes are probably MORE stable, less breakable and more secure.. they dont have all the bells and whistles.. but thats kinda the point. If you wantr all that stuff you can get it with these with some hacking (which means you are learning some stuff too- good work microsoft) if not then you can go and PAY for XP or VISTA.. your choice really..

This is a scorching deal. (Oh and for any non students remember you can get the express editions of most of visual studio 2008 for free as well - that evil microsoft eh.. giving you things for free)

(I dont even really like microsoft, but giving stuff away for free is awfully nice dont you think?)
#39
ODB_69
WTF happened to my post???


yeah my first post is missing too, even lost the rep off it lol, sfunny when its quoted all the way thru the thread ????, was late and tired but i don't think i put anything bad in there?
banned#40
maddogb;4148528
yeah my first post is missing too, even lost the rep off it lol, sfunny when its quoted all the way thru the thread ????, was late and tired but i don't think i put anything bad in there?

weird...

mine wasnt even going into the arguement...I just said some peeps are paranoid and posted a pic, then said OMG BILL GATES IS GONNA KILL US ALL with this pic:

http://yamuessincero.nireblog.com/blogs/yamuessincero/files/bill-gates-borg.gif

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