1 x Netgear XE104 85 Mbps Wall-Plugged Ethernet 4-Port Switch £24.99 (2 x £49.98) Delivered@Play - HotUKDeals
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Stumpled upon this when looking for a cheap homeplug set, and finding it to have 4 ethernet ports for £24.99 from play was an awesome bargain!

However, in order it to work you need 2. Which would mean 2 for £49.98, but thats still cheaper compared to some of the other homeplugs out there, heck even on play they've got the Home kit which has two of these for £99.99. So its definitely a saving and you get a couple ethernet cables with them to get you started!

A couple of these are perfect if your hooking your Xbox 360 up wirelessly or just your home network and they are very efficient and very well reviewed. Get your 360 hooking up to Live for cheaper than the official wireless adapter, and its got 4 ports so you can have upto 4 devices hooked up.

Next cheapest
Amazon.co.uk: £49.99 (Each)

Dont forget Quidco and 5% off for RAC Members!

Description:

Netgear XE104 85 Mbps Wall-Plugged Ethernet 4-Port Switch

No New Wires - that's what NETGEAR's Wall-Plugged Ethernet Bridge means to you as it uses what's already there - your home's electrical outlets.

Completely network your home by plugging in to the existing electrical outlets in every room. The XE104 85 Mbps Wall-Plugged Ethernet 4-port Switch makes a high-speed broadband connection available anywhere in the home without running any cabling, but rather turning each electrical outlet in your home into a 4-port Ethernet connection. Easily extend an existing Ethernet network to PCs in other rooms to maximize the use of all your peripherals. With a sleek new design, the XE104 rests while plugged into an ordinary electrical socket, without any component to step on or take up desk space. Get your LAN party underway in minutes, by linking up to 8 game consoles together using just two XE104 units. This product complements NETGEAR's other products, such as the WGR614 and WPN824 Routers.

Simple to install and use, and equipped with newly designed icon-based indicators to enable easy monitoring. Robust and rate-adaptive, the XE104 minimizes interference from other household appliances. So run your hair dryer, vacuum cleaner or TV, your network will automatically find the best data rate so that you can continue surfing, gaming or telecommuting.
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#1
thats a fookin bargain!

but can i have my xbox 360 and my pc connected to one of these at the same time?

i.e. can i go on xbox live and msn on my comp at the same time? or will i have to switch between em?

regards

yus
#2
yus786
thats a fookin bargain!

but can i have my xbox 360 and my pc connected to one of these at the same time?

i.e. can i go on xbox live and msn on my comp at the same time? or will i have to switch between em?

regards

yus

You certainly can since its got 4 ethernet ports on each homeplug you can have upto 4 devices connected up at same time.

A typical scenario would be, you have 1 homeplug in a socket in one room with your hooked up using ethernet to Xbox 360, PC, PS3, Wii etc...and have the other homeplug hooked up to the router in the other room. It works as though you have directly connect an ethernet to your router.

Heres a diagram of a typical setup from Netgear:

http://i41.tinypic.com/15irtu.gif

Hope that helps :D
#3
ooh thats great then :D

ordered with quidco and that RAC 5% off code so 9% off!
#4
The in built switch is nice if you need it although little switch boxes don't cost much anyway.

I'm getting these ZyXEL PLA-401 200Mbps - http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=311688 - £43.69 (free delivery being a member of AV Forums) - the same ones also available at misco aswell at a slightly higher price.

There are some newlink ones at scan which are at £40 but of course they don't include the 4 ethernet ports for those wanting multiple devices at the same time. The equivalent ones are at £55 so all in all a decent deal if you want multiple devices. (prices excluding delivery)
#5
Don't you have to be careful with these in regard the speeds they offer ? Only asking as i see these are 85mbps and i know the mother in law bought some recently that were 200 mbps . think very carefully about the sp[eed you want on the connecting machines , 85mbps on a pc is pretty useless IMHO .
#6
RamMalc
Don't you have to be careful with these in regard the speeds they offer ? Only asking as i see these are 85mbps and i know the mother in law bought some recently that were 200 mbps . think very carefully about the sp[eed you want on the connecting machines , 85mbps on a pc is pretty useless IMHO .



Agree with sentiments but not fact. Most people (including myself) use this to connect a cable modem, for example, to another room where the pc is. Since my cable modem can only download at 20mbps this way of connecting is upto 4 times faster.

I know you never actually get full throughput but I have never not got my full internet connection with this.

The thing to be aware is not to mix 85 and 200 mbps ones. also hope your neighbours 3 houses up aren't also using these or loads of different equipment on their circuits!
#7
RamMalc
Don't you have to be careful with these in regard the speeds they offer ? Only asking as i see these are 85mbps and i know the mother in law bought some recently that were 200 mbps . think very carefully about the sp[eed you want on the connecting machines , 85mbps on a pc is pretty useless IMHO .


85mbps is faster than 54mbps wireless for a start, even allowing for losses.

A wired connection will be 10 or 100mbps unless you've got Gigabit (although your PC probably hasn't got Gigabit capability anyway)

Your broadband connection will be slower than this at 0.5 to 8mbps or possible 24mbps if yopu've got a super dooper mega fast contract.

I've got 200mbps Zyxel Homeplugs and routers and am very happy with the speed - response times are so fast it's like the NAS drives are in the PC!

You won't get full speed AT your device with 200mbps Homeplugs however, as your speed will be device-limited by the network speed of the device you have got connected.

The ones the OP has posted are an excellent price as they have 4 ports.

My setup uses Zyxel 200mbps Homeplug 'cable' wireless routers as combined Homeplug/Switches/Wireless Access Points (which I got form PC World at a bargain £24.97 each), two stand-alone Zyxel 200mbps Homeplugs (£49 for two at Amazon), a Zyxel media streamer and my BT HomeHub. Everything now hidden away and not a wire in site!!
#8
sjaddy
also hope your neighbours 3 houses up aren't also using these or loads of different equipment on their circuits!


Homeplug signal will not pass through your electricity meter due to the circuitry in the meter, nor can it cross between phases.

Your Homeplug signal cannot pass to a neighbour's mains circuit unless you are on the same meter (eg in bedsits etc).
#9
These 85mbps plugs are fine for internet and streaming SD media however If you are wanting to stream HD media then the 200mbps ones are the ones to go for :)
#10
I hope you have more luck than I did with these, I had a pair of the 200Mb versions and the speeds were slower than 11g wireless, even when plugged into sockets only a few feet apart. Plenty of other people seem to have them working fine so I can only assume that my wiring was causing the problem (the house is very old).
#11
In my house the electric sockets I would want to use these in are already used for other things (TVs, Fridges, Reading lamps) etc. I heard the previous models would not work on a 4 gang extention lead. Anyone know if this newest version will work of an extention lead.

Thanks
#12
Devolo 1145 Homeplug duo Powerline twin pack
£39.13 in PCworld in their sale and online
#13
Plugging into the likes of a 4 gang extension is a no no. It reduces the signal quality [or similar] which becomes even worse if anything attached to that extension is turned on!

Best used on their own in a 'dedicated' socket. I have the 200Mb Zyxel ones and they are brilliant! :thumbsup:
#14
i have these on 4 gang extensions and work perfectly fine, many others report the same as well all over the internet
#15
These work fine on extensions and are really very good. I have a very good connection and live in a victorian house. I saw my bandwidth increase about 8x compared to wireless.

Also I chose these as I had concerns over wireless and the so far uncofirmed effects on young children. Then again, I'm scared of Moths so what do I know?
#16
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:EeeRRRRR.

I have no idea what I need here and if this is the right solution. I have a netgear wireless g router in a room upstairs which I have connected to the home pc by ethernet. The signal can be picked up downstairs by a laptop and an xbox which is fine. I do however am unable to pick up in a conservatory or outside the house. If I plug this in will I pick up an extended signal or do I have to use an ethernet cable from this plug in device.

Sorry to be an idiot.
#17
Hi,

Just adding my 2c. I tried these ethernet over power switches in my place and discovered that my house was wired in two entirely seperate loops back to the mains box and re-isolated there. I could only ever connect between two points on the same loop. Sadly for me, the devices i wanted to connect were on different loops so no joy for me.
#18
scribe76;4002799
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:EeeRRRRR.
I have no idea what I need here and if this is the right solution. I have a netgear wireless g router in a room upstairs which I have connected to the home pc by ethernet. The signal can be picked up downstairs by a laptop and an xbox which is fine. I do however am unable to pick up in a conservatory or outside the house. If I plug this in will I pick up an extended signal or do I have to use an ethernet cable from this plug in device.
Sorry to be an idiot.

Don't apologise ! No one knows everything:thumbsup:
This is a wired alternative to wireless. It isn't a wireless extender.
If you plugged one of these into a wall socket near your router upstairs and connected to the router via an ethernet cable, and then did the same for the laptop/xbox downstairs it would remove the need for wireless on that connection.
However, It wouldn't help with the conservatory or outside the house.
#19
Faythur
Plugging into the likes of a 4 gang extension is a no no. It reduces the signal quality [or similar] which becomes even worse if anything attached to that extension is turned on!

Best used on their own in a 'dedicated' socket. I have the 200Mb Zyxel ones and they are brilliant! :thumbsup:


Plugged into an extension lead is not necessarily a no no, just not recommended because it can, not will, reduce the signal quality. What IS a no no is plugging them into any surge protected extension. The surge protection kit reads these signals as spikes (because they are outside the normal range of standard electrical current), and blocks them. But agreed, the surest way to get the best signal is to plug directly into the mains socket on the wall (and also make sure the wiring in the socket is nice and tight).

You can also get routers with in-built Homeplug functionality (I have one), in which case you would then only need one of these to make it work.
#20
scribe76
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:EeeRRRRR.

I have no idea what I need here and if this is the right solution. I have a netgear wireless g router in a room upstairs which I have connected to the home pc by ethernet. The signal can be picked up downstairs by a laptop and an xbox which is fine. I do however am unable to pick up in a conservatory or outside the house. If I plug this in will I pick up an extended signal or do I have to use an ethernet cable from this plug in device.

Sorry to be an idiot.


I think this would do the trick for you, as long as you have a plug in / near the conservatory

http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline-pl-85pew.htm
#21
quick question, will it work with other manufacturer homeplugs??? anyone know, i want this but have the ones i have already in the house are not netgear
#22
scribe76
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:EeeRRRRR.

I have no idea what I need here and if this is the right solution. I have a netgear wireless g router in a room upstairs which I have connected to the home pc by ethernet. The signal can be picked up downstairs by a laptop and an xbox which is fine. I do however am unable to pick up in a conservatory or outside the house. If I plug this in will I pick up an extended signal or do I have to use an ethernet cable from this plug in device.

Sorry to be an idiot.



These will work as long as the mains sockets in the conservatory are on the same mains loop as the socket the other one is plugged into. As mentioned before, if you have different loops then it won't work. :)
#23
rockrat
quick question, will it work with other home plugs??? anyone know, i want this but have two other types already in the house


I had the same question but ordered it anyway. I'll let you know how I get on.
#24
System requirements: available RJ-45 Ethernet port
Windows 98, ME, 2000 or XP

Just seen this in the specs does this mean you can not use them with Vista
#25
rockrat
quick question, will it work with other manufacturer homeplugs??? anyone know, i want this but have the ones i have already in the house are not netgear


It depends on the chipset inside. Just found this on avforums, dated October 2008.

its not brands that you need to worry about its chipsets - the 2 main players you will come across are DS2 (Spanish) and Intellon (US)

14Mbbps and 85Mbps were all Intellon

So that suggests that at this speed, they will all work with each other.
#26
alankearn
System requirements: available RJ-45 Ethernet port
Windows 98, ME, 2000 or XP

Just seen this in the specs does this mean you can not use them with Vista


Yes, you can ,according to their website.

System Requirements:

* For device connection: Available RJ-45 Ethernet port
* To enable encryption: Windows® 98, ME, 2000, XP & Vista (click here to download Vista drivers)

http://kbserver.netgear.com/release_notes/d103084.asp
#27
this is a great deal, i love these things their genius
#28
I've got the ZyXEL and they are great. Are these as good as them?
#29
this could come in handy! we have 2 xbox's and one is in the same room as the router and the other is downstairs, with this it means i wnt have to pay £60 for a 360 Wireless Bridge ! nice find
#30
Chuck U
Yes, you can ,according to their website.

System Requirements:

* For device connection: Available RJ-45 Ethernet port
* To enable encryption: Windows® 98, ME, 2000, XP & Vista (click here to download Vista drivers)

http://kbserver.netgear.com/release_notes/d103084.asp



Thanks
I should have thought of checking the Netgear site.
#31
I got the 200m Zyxels from Scan. £50 for the pair and they are great, but I must say I like the 4 port switch on these.
banned#32
Ive got a pair of these bad boys, theyre superb, esp as the wireless signal is so poor in my flat

I stream hd content from my pc to netgear eva 8000 and its perfect
#33
"A couple of these are perfect if your hooking your Xbox 360 up wirelessly"

apart from the ethernet cable from your Xbox to the switch... wireless fail.
#34
Hi, I have a PC and router upstairs and will have a new PC in kids playroom downstairs so sounds like these will all the new one to connect via same router. As I don't expect to have anything else plugged in are these the best option or is there another solution without running cables ? Although I could possibly want to connect a laptop as well.

Any advise is welcome.
Thanks
#35
Chuck U
Plugged into an extension lead is not necessarily a no no, just not recommended because it can, not will, reduce the signal quality. What IS a no no is plugging them into any surge protected extension. The surge protection kit reads these signals as spikes (because they are outside the normal range of standard electrical current), and blocks them. But agreed, the surest way to get the best signal is to plug directly into the mains socket on the wall (and also make sure the wiring in the socket is nice and tight).

You can also get routers with in-built Homeplug functionality (I have one), in which case you would then only need one of these to make it work.


mine works fine if plugged into a surge protected extension lead! sorry to be difficult :thinking:
#36
If anyone needs a 200mbps version the ZyXEL PLA401 Twin Pack are still available at misco.co.uk for £48.92 for a twin pack. I've got 4 of these working great around the house on different things like satellite receivers, Xbox360 and PC's. All on extention leads with absolutely no problems.

Link to product is here: http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=289818&CatId=2328
#37
scribe76
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:EeeRRRRR.

I have no idea what I need here and if this is the right solution. I have a netgear wireless g router in a room upstairs which I have connected to the home pc by ethernet. The signal can be picked up downstairs by a laptop and an xbox which is fine. I do however am unable to pick up in a conservatory or outside the house. If I plug this in will I pick up an extended signal or do I have to use an ethernet cable from this plug in device.

Sorry to be an idiot.


If your netgear supports WDS then you can simply get another wireless router (that also supports WDS) and setup an access point downstairs to boost your rannge into your conservetory and garden.
#38
stefor
If anyone needs a 200mbps version the ZyXEL PLA401 Twin Pack are still available at misco.com for £48.92 for a twin pack. I've got 4 of these working great around the house on different things like satellite receivers, Xbox360 and PC's. All on extention leads with absolutely no problems.

Yep, I have the PLA 401's too. I have three of them, one next to the router, one on the top floor and one in the loft, all directly into the wall sockets. They work great and are so much more reliable than wireless.
#39
paul1063
Hi, I have a PC and router upstairs and will have a new PC in kids playroom downstairs so sounds like these will all the new one to connect via same router. As I don't expect to have anything else plugged in are these the best option or is there another solution without running cables ? Although I could possibly want to connect a laptop as well.

Any advise is welcome.
Thanks


If your router is a wireless router then get a wireless network card for the PC in the playroom. If it isn't wireless get a wireless router and a wireless card, much cheaper in total and also more usable if you are also getting a laptop (which is likely to have a wireless card build in).

HTH
#40
withabix
Homeplug signal will not pass through your electricity meter due to the circuitry in the meter, nor can it cross between phases.

Your Homeplug signal cannot pass to a neighbour's mains circuit unless you are on the same meter (eg in bedsits etc).

i thought electricity meters where a passive device,s ie current transformer and voltage measurment as you cant pass upto 60 amps though its circuitry

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