1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 SATA2 7200RPM 32MB cache HD103SJ 3yr warranty @ aria £52.86 - HotUKDeals
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Limited stock available on their superspecials, so be quick. £52.86 if you get free delivery with aria (via their forums) otherwise its £61.03 inc delivery, which is still the cheapest ive found. Not a deal of the century but a very good price imo if you are looking to expand ur storage space.

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Description:
Key Features
MAX.500GB Formatted Capacity Per Platter Serial ATA II Interface Support Improved recording stability over temperature with PMR Advanced dynamic FOD control for best data integrity Intelligent compensation of external disturbance SATA Native Command Queuing Feature Device Initiated SATA Power Management Rotational vibration sensor Environment friendly product with RoHS compliance Improved performance with dual-ARM based firmware ATA S.M.A.R.T. Compliant ATA Automatic Acoustic Management Feature ATA 48-bit Address Feature ATA Device Configuration Overlay Feature NoiseGuard SilentSeek

Warranty Information
Warranty Type Aria Warranty Only
Manufacturer Website http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/main/supportSupportMain.do
Manufacturer Phone 0845 726 7864
Warranty Period (yrs) 3

Technical Details:
Product description Samsung SpinPoint F3 Desktop Class HD103SJ - hard drive - 1 TB - SATA-300
Type Hard drive - internal
Form factor 3.5" x 1/3H
Dimensions (wxdxh) 10.2 cm x 14.7 cm x 2.6 cm
Weight 0.63 kg
Capacity 1 TB
Interface type Serial ATA-300
Data transfer rate 300 MBps
Average seek time 8.9 ms
Spindle speed 7200 rpm
Buffer size 32 MB
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#1
I've had 3 Samsung HDD's in the last two years and all 3 have failed. A 1TB in 2 weeks, a 500GB in about 18 months and another 500GB in 2 years. In my experience they're not up to the job.

I'll stick to Western Digital.
#2
I agree with RedOnRed, my 1TB failed withing a year, disaster for the amount of data stored.... Looking to get a WD one as Samsung are replacing the F1 drive.
#3
RedOnRed
I've had 3 Samsung HDD's in the last two years and all 3 have failed. A 1TB in 2 weeks, a 500GB in about 18 months and another 500GB in 2 years. In my experience they're not up to the job.

I'll stick to Western Digital.


Good job then that Samsung Hard Disks come with 3 years warranty then!

So far not had any problems with Samsung HDs on builds I have done, cool and reliable drives, had a couple of Western Digitals go faulty...horses for courses.
#5
cicobuff;7725667
Good job then that Samsung Hard Disks come with 3 years warranty then!

So far not had any problems with Samsung HDs on builds I have done, cool and reliable drives, had a couple of Western Digitals go faulty...horses for courses.



I've had all 3 Samsung drives replaced without a problem. All are now WD and there's now no issues at all.

A 3 year warranty is little comfort when it comes to the hassle of replacing them. The simplest scenario is returning it, waiting for a replacement to come and then restoring an image - which is what i've done in each case, but even that's a total nightmare and results in significant down-time.

If you checkout the user HDD reliabilty survey at Tom's Hardware you'll find that most people put Western Digital top for reliability, then Seagate, Maxtor, Hitachi and Samsung last.
#6
RedOnRed
I've had all 3 Samsung drives replaced without a problem. All are now WD and there's now no issues at all.

A 3 year warranty is little comfort when it comes to the hassle of replacing them. The simplest scenario is returning it, waiting for a replacement to come and then restoring an image - which is what i've done in each case, but even that's a total nightmare and results in significant down-time.

If you checkout the user HDD reliabilty survey at Tom's Hardware you'll find that most people put Western Digital top for reliability, then Seagate, Maxtor, Hitachi and Samsung last.


just to clarify, they weren't samsung f3s though?
#7
zurich;7725911
just to clarify, they weren't samsung f3s though?



I'm not sure. Quite possibly not. Even if they were the base models they should've lasted longer. WD's Caviar Blue have a good reputation.
#8
Just to add my 2p worth. Make sure that you are getting 3 years warranty from the reseller/distributor!!

My friend and I have bought a batch of 4 Samsung F1 HDDs from "Scam", 1 failed after a month which they replaced without problem, but mine failed 17months later. I have returned the faulty HDD back to Scan, but because the F1 is now discontinued, they are only giving a partial refund due usage and age....huh!! I have raised this with their RMA and received rather an arrogant reply. Never going to shop in Scam again even though I've been a loyal customer for the past 20 years.

Anyway, hot deal (but rather high postage price). Heat+.
#9
RedOnRed


If you checkout the user HDD reliabilty survey at Tom's Hardware you'll find that most people put Western Digital top for reliability, then Seagate, Maxtor, Hitachi and Samsung last.


I don't go with Tom's Hardware as the defacto standard of surveys with drives. In theory any HD manufacturer have had faulty batches of hard drives, suspect controller chipsets etc etc.

According to that "survey" the two manufacturers that I have in my desktop PC are towards the lower end of the reliability spectrum, a Maxtor 400GB and Samsung 500GB, one has to be 4 years old, the other in its 3rd year, both going strong.

Yet in the 16 years of owning and building PCs the only 3 drives I have had fail in my own system builds are 2 WD and 1 Maxtor.

In theory the higher the storage capacity, the more platters, therefore the higher the chance of a crash, the F1 only had three platters, as do the F3s, less mechanical parts, less energy, quieter, cooler runnings and "theoretically" less chance of failure.

The most important thing with any manufacturer of hard disks is to check that OEM drives come with a 3 rather than 1 year warranty.
#10
cicobuff;7726177
I don't go with Tom's Hardware as the defacto standard of surveys with drives. In theory any HD manufacturer have had faulty batches of hard drives, suspect controller chipsets etc etc.

According to that "survey" the two manufacturers that I have in my desktop PC are towards the lower end of the reliability spectrum, a Maxtor 400GB and Samsung 500GB, one has to be 4 years old, the other in its 3rd year, both going strong.

Yet in the 16 years of owning and building PCs the only 3 drives I have had fail in my own system builds are 2 WD and 1 Maxtor.

In theory the higher the storage capacity, the more platters, therefore the higher the chance of a crash, the F1 only had three platters, as do the F3s, less mechanical parts, less energy, quieter, cooler runnings and "theoretically" less chance of failure.

The most important thing with any manufacturer of hard disks is to check that OEM drives come with a 3 rather than 1 year warranty.



Any survey is most definitely subjective and dependent on individual experiences. At the end of the day WD's will fail like any other drive potetianlly will but just perhaps not as prone or as often

My own experiences, both personal and in the industry, after building PC's for 18 years and being in IT for 12 is that i've had countless Maxtors fail, lots of Seagates and Hitachis but very few in fact if any WD's.
#11
RedOnRed
Any survey is most definitely subjective and dependent on individual experiences. At the end of the day WD's will fail like any other drive potetianlly will but just perhaps not as prone or as often

My own experiences, both personal and in the industry, after building PC's for 18 years and being in IT for 12 is that i've had countless Maxtors fail, lots of Seagates and Hitachis but very few in fact if any WD's.


Both of my failed WDs were the old EIDE 200 & 250GBs cannot remember the exact line, but both were in the same line.

Chances are that your Samsung drive fails are in the same line, all manufacturers have their duff lines, the most notorious of all was Fujitsu and how PC repairers loved making money on that when customers had many a failed Fujitsu hard disk due to an overheating Cirrus Logic control chip
#12
How do you go about getting the free delivery?
#13
So what are we thinking guys?

I need a 1 TB for my new build and these two come to the same price:

Samsung F3 vs WD Caviar Green

(I'm already buying something from Pixmania so I dont have to worry about postage)
#14
You do not get free delivery on this as per their terms, super specials are excluded.

http://forums.aria.co.uk/showthread.php?t=14881

As of 1st February 2010 (Fingers Crossed) Aria will be giving forum members who meet the below criteria free next day courier shipping, in order to get this you need to meet the following criteria:-

50+ Post (Not SPAM)
Contribute at least 50 or more post every month
Don't get yourself banned or suspended
The delivery address must be within the UK mainland, we shall also look into a free service for our Irish forum members too
Minimum spend of £20+VAT
Free Shipping will work on all prices including Deal4Today, but SuperSpecial deals won't have free shipping.
#15
Also, Gibbo hasn't announced that the Free delivery scheme has gone live yet so no one is getting free shipping at the moment, regardless of deal type :)

edit

Gibbo has posted this a little earlier after I made the above post...

Gibbo @ Aria
[size=3][color=green]Hi there

I've been testing FREE Shipping and it is now fully working.

Will make it live soon and give you instructions and an official announce to the world wide web will be tomorrow.
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#16
got this drive for this price last week.

the price goes up and down like a yo-yo! Also ..look out for the 1.5TB samsung drive which isnt alot more ... different warranty though.
#17
scan not much more with the free shipping (if you can get it)
#18
Frukoz
So what are we thinking guys?

I need a 1 TB for my new build and these two come to the same price:

Samsung F3 vs WD Caviar Green

(I'm already buying something from Pixmania so I dont have to worry about postage)


If you are using them for primary drives, dont get the caviar green. its a lot slower drive to save power, and as a result boots slower and is slower in general for copying and using etc; go for the Samsung instead. If you already have a primary drive that will be used for booting, and is a 7200rpm, then buy the green to use as storage for data and stuff, and you wont see the performance hit.

In theory the higher the storage capacity, the more platters, therefore the higher the chance of a crash, the F1 only had three platters, as do the F3s, less mechanical parts, less energy, quieter, cooler runnings and "theoretically" less chance of failure.


The F3s only use 2 platters so even less chance of a crash "theoretically".
#19
RedOnRed;7725811
If you checkout the user HDD reliabilty survey at Tom's Hardware you'll find that most people put Western Digital top for reliability, then Seagate, Maxtor, Hitachi and Samsung last.


You have to be registered just to see the results. Naff :roll:

People voting aren't putting Samsung last for reliability, there are just less votes for Samsung being their favourite. In essence this is just a popularity contest, and considering Samsung is the newest drive manufacturer in the retail sector it's not that surprising.

I've had a WD and an IBM fail on me in the past but I am willing to believe that was just an unlucky drive (WD). These days I now use Samsung and WD exclusively because they both combine good performance with low noise/vibrations and price.
#20
Its hot from me as I'm collecting parts for a new pc build and this will store all the pics of the wife!!
#21
cicobuff
..........
The most important thing with any manufacturer of hard disks is to check that OEM drives come with a 3 rather than 1 year warranty.


Sorry but the most important thing is to have backup's for your data - be it another hdd or dvds.:thumbsup:
banned#22
Not a bad deal. I probably will wait for a good 2TB deal though.
#23
Its not bad at all for 32mb cache as well.

It is true about the WD green ones they are slower so now i dont use mine as a main drive only as a storage unit now.
#24
Daniel_Saeed
Sorry but the most important thing is to have backup's for your data - be it another hdd or dvds.:thumbsup:


+1 and with windows 7 its dead easy to do as just a click and away is goes backed up :thumbsup:
#25
[QUOTE=EDEN188]Just to add my 2p worth. Make sure that you are getting 3 years warranty from the reseller/distributor!!

My friend and I have bought a batch of 4 Samsung F1 HDDs from "Scam", 1 failed after a month which they replaced without problem, but mine failed 17months later. I have returned the faulty HDD back to Scan, but because the F1 is now discontinued, they are only giving a partial refund due usage and age....huh!! I have raised this with their RMA and received rather an arrogant reply. Never going to shop in Scam again even though I've been a loyal customer for the past 20 years.
QUOTE]

All electrical items sold in the EC have a minimum warranty of two years. Beyond that you have to depend upon SOGA. I would dispute the partial refund.
#26
50 posts a month is a lot on a tech forum.

I have samsung and have had only one drive failure out of 6 drives.
I have two WD and no drive failures.

Maxtor = Maxdie and i wouldnt touch with a bargepole.
I have 1 hitachi was pleased with it, nuy its died avter about 8 months.

I have no problem with Samsung and the F3 gets great reviews. If you have a hd failure then you tend to remember it.
#27
dashforth;7730053
[QUOTE=EDEN188]Just to add my 2p worth. Make sure that you are getting 3 years warranty from the reseller/distributor!!

My friend and I have bought a batch of 4 Samsung F1 HDDs from "Scam", 1 failed after a month which they replaced without problem, but mine failed 17months later. I have returned the faulty HDD back to Scan, but because the F1 is now discontinued, they are only giving a partial refund due usage and age....huh!! I have raised this with their RMA and received rather an arrogant reply. Never going to shop in Scam again even though I've been a loyal customer for the past 20 years.
QUOTE]

All electrical items sold in the EC have a minimum warranty of two years. Beyond that you have to depend upon SOGA. I would dispute the partial refund.


this seems to be quite a common thing to do with scan from what i've been reading on their forums, with them issuing partial refunds rather than equivilant replacements for item. Post about one guy who was offered £123 quid for his less than 1 year old gtx 280 (£280 brand new) and are refusing to issue a replacement due to them not being made any more. Quite disgusting that they can attempt to get away with things like this
#28
PoisonJam;7728943
You have to be registered just to see the results. Naff :roll:

People voting aren't putting Samsung last for reliability, there are just less votes for Samsung being their favourite. In essence this is just a popularity contest, and considering Samsung is the newest drive manufacturer in the retail sector it's not that surprising.

I've had a WD and an IBM fail on me in the past but I am willing to believe that was just an unlucky drive (WD). These days I now use Samsung and WD exclusively because they both combine good performance with low noise/vibrations and price.



You don't have to register to see the results because i've already given them to you.
#29
Actually I wanted to see the numbers.

I agree with what someone else said about Tom's Hardware though... not a hardware site I rate and I wouldn't put much faith in people who put faith in TH (i.e. the forum members who voted in this pole) :p

Give me The Tech Report or AnandTech (even though it has an awful name) any day :thumbsup:
#30
PoisonJam;7730998
Actually I wanted to see the numbers.

I agree with what someone else said about Tom's Hardware though... not a hardware site I rate and I wouldn't put much faith in people who put faith in TH (i.e. the forum members who voted in this pole) :p

Give me The Tech Report or AnandTech (even though it has an awful name) any day :thumbsup:



Tom's Hardware which hard drive would you trust your data on survey?

43.2% Western Digital 176 Votes
37.8 Seagate 154 Votes
6.1% Maxtor 25 Votes
6.6 Hitachi 27 Votes
6.1 Samsung 25 Votes

969 Votes (562 blank votes)


Actually, I got the order wrong. WD, Seagate, Hitachi and Maxtor and Samsung joint last. Which is exactly how i'd rate in my real world experience.
banned#31
cicobuff
I don't go with Tom's Hardware as the defacto standard of surveys with drives. In theory any HD manufacturer have had faulty batches of hard drives, suspect controller chipsets etc etc.

According to that "survey" the two manufacturers that I have in my desktop PC are towards the lower end of the reliability spectrum, a Maxtor 400GB and Samsung 500GB, one has to be 4 years old, the other in its 3rd year, both going strong.

Yet in the 16 years of owning and building PCs the only 3 drives I have had fail in my own system builds are 2 WD and 1 Maxtor.

In theory the higher the storage capacity, the more platters, therefore the higher the chance of a crash, the F1 only had three platters, as do the F3s, less mechanical parts, less energy, quieter, cooler runnings and "theoretically" less chance of failure.

The most important thing with any manufacturer of hard disks is to check that OEM drives come with a 3 rather than 1 year warranty.


The F3 has only 2 platters, so should be theoretically faster then the F1's
#32
Btw that Toms Hardware survey is highly dubious to the extent that there are many reasons why WD could be top. IN technology terms Samsung is the newer player and not everyone will have tried them. I have no problems with them. Maxtor I do, have had 3 drives and theyeve all broken pretty quickly in the worst way.
#33
I have found in laptops the samsung drives are very good and get good ratings too, But desktops out of all of them maxor and seagate have been crap but WD so far very good
#34
Not a good price as they were only £55 last year.
#35
You would NEVER get free shipping with SS deals so it is just another promo gimmick.

AVOID – see my earlier post re non-existent support/misleading replies/crap service from Aria.
#36
I have two Western Digital drives that are in their 8th year of service. I have a further external 3.5" WD drive in it's 6th year and a further external 2.5" WD drive that is in it's 3rd year.

I have had only one WD harddrive fail on me - it was 7 years old.

Admittedly things could have changed, but WD have a fair amount of precedent for reliability in my mind.
#37
EDEN188
Just to add my 2p worth. Make sure that you are getting 3 years warranty from the reseller/distributor!!

My friend and I have bought a batch of 4 Samsung F1 HDDs from "Scam", 1 failed after a month which they replaced without problem, but mine failed 17months later. I have returned the faulty HDD back to Scan, but because the F1 is now discontinued, they are only giving a partial refund due usage and age....huh!! I have raised this with their RMA and received rather an arrogant reply. Never going to shop in Scam again even though I've been a loyal customer for the past 20 years.

Anyway, hot deal (but rather high postage price). Heat+.


Agreed about Scans RMA procedure I recently bought an Xtreamer Media Player and decided it was not up to scratch and as I was within my 7 day returns window I raised an RMA with them which they acted upon very quickly ... so far so good.;-)

As it was the Christmas period they said keep a hold of it until after the new year as our testing department won't be back til then. I returned the Xtreamer as requested but they refused a refund as the outer box had been slightly torn, after me showing them the Distance Selling Regulations stating that any returns did not even have to be in the original packaging they stuck to the party line and flatly refused a refund.:x

As I say I use them quite a bit but after that escapade I will be thinking long and hard about anything that I can get for the same price at another retailer.
#38
I hate it when retailers do that. They're just trying it on, especially companies as large as Scan. They know what the DSRs are, but still try to con their way out of them! It really annoys me! I hope you pursued the matter.
#39
Hot deal, shame its limited to only one drive. Just bought a couple from scan as I have free delivery but after reading the comments above I don't know if this was a wise move!

Just can't get over the performance of these drives : http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net
Look forward to putting these in my new i7 rig.
#40
LostBoy
Just can't get over the performance of these drives : http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net
.

Yeah but that's the problem: " the faster a drive is, the the faster it will fail and/or the more likely it is to fail."
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1670326
Samsung "excellent performance, poor after-sales service, low reliability" but Western Digital after-sales is equally dire.

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