2 x 2Tb Samsung HD204UI/Z4, SpinPoint EcoGreen F4EG SATA 3Gb/s, 32MB Cache, 8.9 ms - £110.39 Delivered @ Scan - HotUKDeals
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Good deal if you plan on buying more than one. Works out to be £55.20 each!

Offer is on Today Only so will expire on Monday 1pm. Price is only shown on the Today Only page and not product detail page. Use the link below to add directly to basket:

https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/Shop/AddToBasket.aspx?WebProductId=1457537

Free delivery for qualified AVForum and Hexus members (maybe other forum aswell but not quite sure).

Remember to update the firmware in these:
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/hdd/faqView.do?b2b_bbs_msg_id=386
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2 Likes #1
Good price but worth pointing out that these are grey imports and have no samsung warranty.

Amazon £57.61 each with full warranty.


Edited By: gavjbrown on Mar 19, 2011 13:55: .
#2
How long is the warranty on the amazon ones?
#3
leedale30
How long is the warranty on the amazon ones?

i think samsungs have a 36 month warranty against failiure...
#4
Great deal I got 2 of these a while ago for £115 so this is Hot. You still get a 3 years warranty with Scan though.
1 Like #5
Going to vote cold, despite posting a similar deal myself about a month ago.

Problem with this deal is that:

1) These are grey imports, so they will have no warranty with Samsung (usually 36 months), however they will have a 36 month warranty with Scan in its place

2) All these 2TB F4 Samsung drives produced before Dec 2010 are affected by a firmware issue, and require a firmware update. This update is not straightforward to apply. I am virtually certain that all the scan drives were produced prior to Dec 2010

3) Buying 2 drives simultaneously from the same source is not a smart move. They are likely to come from the same production batch. Therefore they are likely to fail at similar times. This is particularly dangerous if you are using one drive for data and the other for backup, or if you are using them in a RAID setup.

Cold.
#6
With the firmware bug needing to be patched I have to say that the saving over other drives seems too small to make up for the hassle involved.
#7
isn't the firmware bug only really needed if you plan to use these in certain raid configurations? For regular use, as storage drives, holding movies, games, whatever, that it is fine. I've used about half a dozen so far for various uses, and not a problem. If I was to use them for more advanced purposes then yeah fair enough, get the firmware updated....other than that, it shouldn't matter
#8
Satan
Going to vote cold, despite posting a similar deal myself about a month ago.

Problem with this deal is that:

1) These are grey imports, so they will have no warranty with Samsung (usually 36 months), however they will have a 36 month warranty with Scan in its place

2) All these 2TB F4 Samsung drives produced before Dec 2010 are affected by a firmware issue, and require a firmware update. This update is not straightforward to apply. I am virtually certain that all the scan drives were produced prior to Dec 2010

3) Buying 2 drives simultaneously from the same source is not a smart move. They are likely to come from the same production batch. Therefore they are likely to fail at similar times. This is particularly dangerous if you are using one drive for data and the other for backup, or if you are using them in a RAID setup.

Cold.


Website says 36 month warranty. Deal seems to be no longer there, unless I missed it
#9
just searched and believe the actual problem is

Problem: If the system writes to this disk and smartctl -a (5.40) is used at the same time, write errors are reported and bad blocks appear on the disk.


Edited By: Midnight Tboy on Mar 19, 2011 14:37
#10
if anyone thinks the firmware is hard to apply should not really be doing anything on a PC other than using it

Whirly - for many this will not just be about the saving. For most tasks this is the fastest standard SATA2 drive on the market. I have 2 of them already and have just ordered another 2 through another site (prefer to have a proper Sammy warranty)

I have voted hot as it is a good deal, just a shame that the warranty is not with Samsung though
#11
The bug exists in NCQ (Native Command Queuing) which is part of Raid and AHCI (Advanced Host Control Interface).

If you are not using Raid or AHCI then you don't need the firmware update.

The update is easy to apply and takes seconds. The last drive I bought was already updated.
Download the update from Samsung's website.
The drive has to be on sata channel 0 on default settings, you can change it but I wouldn't bother.

It is a DOS command, you can make a bootable usb drive with "HP USB Boot Utility".

Hope that helps.
#12
It's not as fast as the Samsung 7200rpm F3 drives (not the eco-green) but they only go up to 1TB.

I've heard of 4TB drives on the way.
#13
If I am planning on adding one of these to my WHS would I need to update the firmware?

As I understand it they don't really use RAID, but a different was of duplicating folders. I don't know that much about it though
#14
I got two of these last week from scan and the manufacturing date is 01.2011 so no need to worry about the bug. Warranty is direct with scan but I am using these to replace my DVD backups so I plan to write once and then disconnect, so they wont be used heavily (via USB3 dock when I want something). Capacity for the money is stunning.
#15
Gort1951
The bug exists in NCQ (Native Command Queuing) which is part of Raid and AHCI (Advanced Host Control Interface).

If you are not using Raid or AHCI then you don't need the firmware update.

The update is easy to apply and takes seconds. The last drive I bought was already updated.
Download the update from Samsung's website.
The drive has to be on sata channel 0 on default settings, you can change it but I wouldn't bother.

It is a DOS command, you can make a bootable usb drive with "HP USB Boot Utility".

Hope that helps.


What everyone forgets to mention (even Samsung) is that you have to ensure that the drive is operating in IDE mode (not AHCI) for the actual firmware upgrade process - otherwise the upgrade utility does not see the drive!
#16
CockneySpur
if anyone thinks the firmware is hard to apply should not really be doing anything on a PC other than using it


Here is a thread containing a guide to apply the firmware upgrade, together with some discussion:

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1597038

This isn't like installing a windows update, and many users have had problems applying the firmware upgrade. I think that for those who aren't that tech savvy, or those who just cannot be bothered with the hassle (like myself), it's best to avoid these drives until you can be sure to be getting one which isn't affected by this flaw.

As somebody who knows his way around a PC enough to have built his own, I have no desire to have to repair my HDD before I even use it. That is why I haven't not purchased this yet. I guess I have higher standards than you.

CockneySpur
Whirly - for many this will not just be about the saving. For most tasks this is the fastest standard SATA2 drive on the market. I have 2 of them already and have just ordered another 2 through another site (prefer to have a proper Sammy warranty)


This is clearly notone of the fastest SATA2 drives on the market - I would have thought that an 'expert' like yourself would have known that. It may be one of the fastest 2TB SATA2 drives on the market - and its triple platter configuration goes some way to helping that - but it is a hell of a long way from being one the fastest SATA2 drives on the market.
2 Likes #17
A word to the wise - avoid any hard drive that has "Z4" in the title - it means it's being sold in a region it wasn't intended for sale in and thus will carry no form of warranty whatsoever from the manufacturer.
#18
althought slightly more expensive @ Amazon - if you prefer their service. I ordered on thurs and they arrived today (FREE supersaver)#
Your text here

Edited By: andywedge on Mar 19, 2011 17:28: link
#19
CockneySpur
if anyone thinks the firmware is hard to apply should not really be doing anything on a PC other than using it

Whirly - for many this will not just be about the saving. For most tasks this is the fastest standard SATA2 drive on the market. I have 2 of them already and have just ordered another 2 through another site (prefer to have a proper Sammy warranty)

I have voted hot as it is a good deal, just a shame that the warranty is not with Samsung though


*coughs* I have a 600gb velociraptor and a 1TB WD Black in my gaming PC so I know a fast drive when I see it.

As for these sammy's. I intend to use them in a NAS so any speed advantage is irrelevant to me. Patching the firmware on these *is* a hassle for anyone...it's just less of a hassle if you are building a PC at the same time.
#20
I bought two of these just the other day, seem quiet for playing dvds from, very pleased.
(I believe there's a firmware update possibily needed for achi, I had no problems anyway but its easy to apply. here's what I did if it may help someone)

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-Instructions-
-Download the firmware from here Samsung Firmware update

-Make sure its the right model (can be seen under disk drives in your device manager)

-Shutdown your pc then switch on, was recommended somewhere on the net rather than reboot.

-Boot into dos, Alot of people create bootable usb drives these days I'm old school and/or lazy, booting from the windows 98 cd-rom with a usb drive plugged in will become the C: drive where the file can be easily run in seconds.

-simply type f4eg.exe, it should pick up the drives and run automatically.

-I can only speak for myself but all my hard drives run in ACHI and weren't on the "master" socket and the update worked successfully to both in one go. Didn't effect any data already on my drives, all seems well, easy peasy 8)
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Edited By: titanwars on Mar 19, 2011 17:21: Come to me jungle friends..
#21
Satan
3) Buying 2 drives simultaneously from the same source is not a smart move. They are likely to come from the same production batch. Therefore they are likely to fail at similar times. This is particularly dangerous if you are using one drive for data and the other for backup, or if you are using them in a RAID setup.

Cold.


Any actual proof that this is the case fella??
#22
IMO it's a great deal if you are a member of either the Hexus forum or AV Forum as you get this next day delivery for free as well.

I don't understand what the big deal is iabout the warranty, if the drive fails Scan will send you a new one exactly the same as Samsung would anyway. Who cares what region the drive was meant to be sold in, do they work differently depending where you live?

I upgraded the firmware on mine when I received them although I probably didn't have to as they had 2011 on them, but it was easy anyway.

I've also never heard that drives made at the same time will fail at the same time. Surely it's based on a number of different variables.
#23
if you want to be safer then drives from different batches are a good idea for some RAID configurations. If you're using a primary and backup then the second drive isn't likely to have been worked as hard. So no need to worry too much.

The theory goes in RAID that you're running two near identical drives for the same time on the same load. If one goes for whatever reason the other drive is more likely to fail for the same reason sometime in the future. At this point you've got your second drive working harder (man down!) and you come along and replace the dead drive in the array so the system has to rebuild the array which puts more strain than usual on the other drive.

Again, it's the theory and many people (including myself) have seen another drive fail on rebuilding an array. But for home use, it's not that big of a deal. Anyway you'll have backups, right?

Edited By: tapi on Mar 19, 2011 17:21
#24
grumpyone

What everyone forgets to mention (even Samsung) is that you have to ensure that the drive is operating in IDE mode (not AHCI) for the actual firmware upgrade process - otherwise the upgrade utility does not see the drive!

I updated both of mine in AHCI mode, one of which was manufactured September so it had the bug. In fact, this OEM Motherboard/ BIOS doesn't even support IDE legacy emulation mode.




Edited By: bluespace77 on Mar 20, 2011 03:49: .

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