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Kogan have launched in the UK today selling a range of LED backlit LCD TV's with built-in PVRs (looks like you need to connect a USB hard drive for this function).
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brookheather#2
Link to other TV/PVR models in this range from 19" for £129:

http://www.kogan.co.uk/shop/category/led-tvs/
gr8h8me#3
It looks ok given hot
brookheather#4
Specifications
Model Number: KGNUKFHDLED24VAA
Panel Size (Diagonal): 23.6"/59.9cm
Panel Viewable: 23.6"/59.9cm
Panel Type: CMO Widescreen Full HD TFT-LED (Edge lit LED LCD panel)
Panel Response Time: 5ms
Panel Refresh Rate: 50/60Hz
Tuner: Integrated Digital Tuner
TV System: PAL/SECAM
Native Panel Resolution: 1920 x 1080 (Full High Definition)
Native Panel Aspect Ratio: 16:9 Widescreen
Aspect Ratios Supported: Panorama, 16:9, Letterbox 4:3, Auto
Signal Compatibility: 480i, 576i, 480p, 576p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
Colours: 1.06 Billion Maximum
Computer Supported Resolutions: 640x480 @ 60Hz, 800x600 @ 60Hz, 1024x768 @ 60Hz, 1366X768 @ 60Hz, 1920X1080 @ 60Hz
Actual Contrast Ratio: 1000:1 (ANSI)
Dynamic Contrast Ratio:
Brightness: 250 cd/m²
Viewable Angle: 170o (Horizontal) × 160o (Vertical)
Pixel/Dot Pitch: 0.2715mm (H) × 0.2715mm (V)
3D Comb Filter: Yes
Blu-ray Ready: Yes
Parental Lock: Yes
Inputs (Left Side)
HDMI: 2
VGA (D-sub): 1
SCART: 1
S-Video: 1
Audio In:
1
USB:
1
Inputs (Left Side)

AV (Composite): 1
Common Interface: 1
Antenna In: 1
Outputs (Left Side)
Coaxial Audio Out:
1
Headphone Out:
1
Other
Speaker System:
Built-In: 2 x 3W Speakers
Power Consumption:
Average: <60W
Standby: <1W
12V Compatible:
Yes (Adapter Sold Separately)
Dimensions of TV without Stand (approx):
W:58.3cm x D:4.7cm x H:37.7cm
Dimensions of TV with Stand (approx):
W:58.3cm x D:16.5cm x H:42.0cm
Dimensions of Box (approx):
W:65.5cm x D:14.0cm x H:50.5cm
Weight of TV with Stand (approx):
4.9kg
Weight of TV in Box (approx):
6.5kg
TV Stand:
Standard
Wall Mount Hole Pattern:
100mm x 100mm
Wall Mount Screw Size:
Metric M4
Side Buttons:
Power, TV/AV, Menu, Channel Up/Down, Volume Up/Down
Television Depth (approx):
Thickest: 4.7cm
Thinnest: 4.7cm
USB:

Supported Formats (USB):
AVI, MP4, DIVX4, DIVX5, XVID, MP3, WMA, JPEG, BMP
Supported USB Devices: Powered External Drives up to 1TB
PVR:

Built-in PVR Function:
Yes (through USB input)
Timeshift: Yes
EPG: Yes
jimbodo7#5
samsung panels are used in kogan tvs
wozwebs#6
Sounds good, contrast ration poor though?
Penny Saver#7
Expected dispatch December 8th... not actually in stock then?
wozwebs#8
Penny Saver
Expected dispatch December 8th... not actually in stock then?


Probably on the boat over from Oz as we speak!
Penny Saver#9
wozwebs
Penny Saver
Expected dispatch December 8th... not actually in stock then?


Probably on the boat over from Oz as we speak!


At that price they better have a whole ship load :)
buster13#10
These look really nice. I fancy the 26" model. Would need to see a few reviews first though.
KuchKuch#11
Looking at reviews of Kogan TV's suggest that they generally get 6/7 out of 10. So, while they may use Samsung panels, they don't produce the same quality.
wozwebs#12
£100 extra for 2 more in inches (26" vs. 24") seems a lot though
iscom#13
Looks a good deal was looking for a 22" monitor so maybe this is what am looking for. just wonder if they take payment now or when the TV in in stock?
copthis1 2 Likes #14
wozwebs
£100 extra for 2 more in inches (26" vs. 24") seems a lot though

2 more inches in other areas costs a lot more than £100 and a world of pain................
blackrat62#15
Clever misleading claim of LED screen - it is a LCD screen lit by LEDs. I note the asterix in the description etc but its a LCD TV all the same.
Rich44#16
blackrat62
Clever misleading claim of LED screen - it is a LCD screen lit by LEDs. I note the asterix in the description etc but its a LCD TV all the same.


Please tell me that was a joke
sicpuppy#17
Rich44
blackrat62
Clever misleading claim of LED screen - it is a LCD screen lit by LEDs. I note the asterix in the description etc but its a LCD TV all the same.


Please tell me that was a joke


Here we go...i'll let someone else give you the big speech on LED haha :P
fishmaster#18
Rich44
blackrat62
Clever misleading claim of LED screen - it is a LCD screen lit by LEDs. I note the asterix in the description etc but its a LCD TV all the same.


Please tell me that was a joke


No he's quite serious.
Rich44#19
Oh dear god
adam_2004#20
Small print .....

*Kogan LED televisions incorporate LED edge-lit or backlit technology (as the case may be) with LCD screens."

Edited By: adam787_1 on Nov 15, 2010 16:57
fishmaster 1 Like #21
LED is marketing speak for reeling in the dummies.
Besford 1 Like #22
You can do better at Tesco! Any company that seeks to mislead like this doesn't get my business.
pibpob#23
Rich44
blackrat62
Clever misleading claim of LED screen - it is a LCD screen lit by LEDs. I note the asterix in the description etc but its a LCD TV all the same.


Please tell me that was a joke
Try asking Obelix.
jonnypb#24
Very misleading deal for many. Some may think that they will be getting a fancy new generation led tv only to be disapointed when it turns out to be lcd.

Not in stock and for the price its nothing special. Would rather have the 22" lg listed a few posts above

New firm in uk, not in stock, misleading. Its a bit chilly
colintheuk#25
pvr is misleading, you need your own hard drive in the usb for this
simon2490#26
good deal for me. dont think they are a bad company personally as they clearly explain what LED LCD is on the site and within the product listing.
http://www.kogan.co.uk/led-tv/

looks like this site may have been hacked...hmm wonder why

Edited By: simon2490 on Nov 15, 2010 19:08: site update
brookheather#27
colintheuk
pvr is misleading, you need your own hard drive in the usb for this


I agree the phrase "built-in PVR" is misleading but it is potentially a neat feature just to add a USB hard drive - depends on the execution as to whether this feature is worth having.
mclassplanet#28
Another thing to consider is that the UK Freeview logo doesn't seem to be shown on the Kogan website in relation to these TV's, meaning that some or all of these sets may not have the interactive "red button" feature for UK broadcasts. Obviously you would have to buy one to be 100% certain, and this feature may not matter to you especially if you plan to use one as a second set or using it with an external box (Freeview HD, Sky, Virgin, etc.) - however it's still possible to select the BBC Red Button video stream manually even if the interactive elements are missing.
WantOne#29
brookheather


I agree the phrase "built-in PVR" is misleading but it is potentially a neat feature just to add a USB hard drive - depends on the execution as to whether this feature is worth having.


Know what you mean, but kinda disagree. Why when I buy a TV with built in EPG why do I then have to buy a seperate STB which fleeces me for the difference between a cheap 160Gb or 250Gb HDD when I can buy a 2.5" external for a fraction of the cost and share what I record across the TV's in my house.

I wish my new telly, which has a usb port, had an in-built PVR which I could plug my many USB devices into and record all the Freeview channels.

Heat for what looks like a good all rounder!


Edited By: WantOne on Nov 15, 2010 20:53
WantOne#30
Oh, and insofar as being misleading regarding the LED/LCD "miswording" . . . . . .

The first offerring from Amazon for example
Besford 1 Like #31
Many of the Tesco TVs have Samsung panels and PVR software with USB connections. Cheaper too and you know they'll be there if/when it goes wrong.

Over 200 degrees on this is plain crazy!
CodyO#32
blackrat62
Clever misleading claim of LED screen - it is a LCD screen lit by LEDs. I note the asterix in the description etc but its a LCD TV all the same.


Sorry if I am totally wrong but I thought that a LED tv was a LCD tv, they are just lit differently so that the LED TV is my energy efficent. So it is infact a LED tv.

Also can this record both visual and audio from say the HDMI/componant sockets, say an xbox 360?or is it just from freeview? Also will it record in HD as this is a Full HD tv?

Edited By: CodyO on Nov 15, 2010 23:54
DuncanCorps#33
Hrm, looks like these Kogan TVs are cheap box-shifting stuff with design flaws. This weblog post descirbes, in great technical details, how a 1080p Kogan TV tells its sources to send only 720p and then upscales it back to 1080p, sabotaging the picture quality;

* Kogan KGN1080P32VAA - Avoid this TV and any other with a CultraView CV119MA mainboard
dca860#34
They do a 22" for £20 less too - which suits the kids bedroom better TBO
Just ordered one
dca860#35
Besford
Many of the Tesco TVs have Samsung panels and PVR software with USB connections. Cheaper too and you know they'll be there if/when it goes wrong.

Over 200 degrees on this is plain crazy!


The panels are not everything - the electronics that drive them mean everything - and not everything Samsung produces is excellent - they sell their rubbish elsewhere funnily enough!
Incidentally, have you noticed that this is LED backlit - unlike the Teknica or whatever rubbish they sell in Tesco
My c/card protects this purchase.
dca860#36
colintheuk
pvr is misleading, you need your own hard drive in the usb for this


Not its not - it has all the software and hardware - just lacks the storage. It is plain enough.
dca860#37
jonnypb
Very misleading deal for many. Some may think that they will be getting a fancy new generation led tv only to be disapointed when it turns out to be lcd.

Not in stock and for the price its nothing special. Would rather have the 22" lg listed a few posts above

New firm in uk, not in stock, misleading. Its a bit chilly


There is no such thing as a LED display TV and this claim is no different to any other.
The back lighting using LED technology is very new and offers longer lasting, more reliable and displays blacks better (as it can dynamically vary in intensity) etc etc.

Take advantage of the newness of the company as their prices are unlikely to last.
pibpob#38
Easy enough to find the manual online.
nascent#39
pibpob
Easy enough to find the manual online.

Appreciate the help, but the manual doesn't answer my question.
brookheather 1 Like #40
PVR functions will only record the Freeview channels - it won't have an encoder to record external video sources.

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