24" Samsung B2430L Widescreen LCD Monitor (1080p 70000:1 300cd/m2 5ms VGA/DVI) - £119.99 @ Scan (Today Only) - HotUKDeals
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24" Samsung B2430L Widescreen LCD Monitor (1080p 70000:1 300cd/m2 5ms VGA/DVI) - £119.99 @ Scan (Today Only)

£119.99 @ Scan
Keeps getting cheaper! In the Super Savers section. Free Del for AV Forum members. With the Samsung B2430L, you will be amazed at the choices. Whether it's how much energy you use or what colours… Read More
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Keeps getting cheaper! In the Super Savers section. Free Del for AV Forum members.

With the Samsung B2430L, you will be amazed at the choices. Whether it's how much energy you use or what colours you want on your screen, you can select your personal choices and then enjoy the brilliant display with breathtaking clarity. All these new features come down to greater personal choice and therefore greater effectiveness. The B2340L is your perfect work partner, letting you take control.
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#1
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#2
Anyone know if this LED backlight? 45 Watt power consumption according to dabs: http://www.dabs.com/products/samsung-syncmaster-b2430l-23-6--widescreen-1920-x-1080-5ms-dvi-d-vga-lcd-monitor-7394.html
#3
Guess it isn't - Samsung LED monitor at dabs (http://www.dabs.com/products/samsung-syncmaster-23--bx2340-widescreen-1920-x-1080-5ms-vga-dvi-d-led-monitor-73ZS.html) is 25 Watt indicating this isn't. Shame as otherwise good monitor.
#4
Dare I ask... How do you get free delivery if you're an AV Forum member?
1 Like #5
You need to just be a member there for two weeks. Just sit back and wait for it to activate - I gather it just matches the registered emails on both sites.

http://www.avforums.com/forums/scan_offer.php

This deal will definitely pop up again if you don't mind waiting!
#6
mamboboy
You need to just be a member there for two weeks. Just sit back and wait for it to activate - I gather it just matches the registered emails on both sites.

http://www.avforums.com/forums/scan_offer.php

This deal will definitely pop up again if you don't mind waiting!

Thanks for this. Will wait for it to pop up again!
#7
The Samsung monitors are good like this but don't look brillant in dual screen as the bezel is large.
#8
Think the other monitor deal (Acer) is better with 2ms response time perhaps?

Still good price for a samsung though.
#9
looks like the Acer is now sold out, no longer showing on the "today only" on the Scan website. Still this is a good deal, and a good make.

Edited By: rdann on May 11, 2011 16:06
#10
I'd avoid buying from scan. I have been waiting weeks for a refund for two faulty monitors.
#11
Max-Power
Think the other monitor deal (Acer) is better with 2ms response time perhaps?

Still good price for a samsung though.


The difference between 2-5ms response time is unnoticeable to the human eye... hell even rates up to 12ms aren't noticeable.

Edited By: mamboboy on May 11, 2011 16:45: f
#12
I had bought this monitor from Scan one month ago when it's £131.99. Great monitor! No dead pixel.

Though only VGA cable is provided, so you might need to get your own DVI cable. Also the power cord provided is in European version.
#13
Its a shame it has no HDMI otherwise I would have bought it
#14
mamboboy
Max-Power
Think the other monitor deal (Acer) is better with 2ms response time perhaps?

Still good price for a samsung though.


The difference between 2-5ms response time is unnoticeable to the human eye... hell even rates up to 12ms aren't noticeable.

Haha, you know that's balls, right? Plus, it's not about visible lag - It's also input lag.

I bet you're one of the people who believes the human eye can't see above 60fps.. When that's not true at all.

Edited By: EmSixTeen on May 11, 2011 16:59
1 Like #15

LCD screens with a slow response time are often unsuitable to play fast paced computer games. A worst-case response time of <16ms is sufficient for video gaming, and the difference between response times once below 10ms begin to become hard to perceive due to limitations of the human eye.


My previous monitor (Samsung 2232BW) had an 8ms response time, and I never, ever, ever saw any ghosting. That monitor also had a setting to 'switch on' the 2ms response... but I'd leave it off because it made no difference, at the cost of using up more power.
If you seriously think you could tell the difference between a monitor with 2ms response time and one with 5ms then you need to think about submitting yourself in for some genetic research as you must truly be superhuman...

Edited By: mamboboy on May 11, 2011 18:15: 2
#16
3ms difference is fairly big. Try playing Rock Band games with it being even 3ms off, I can promise that you'll notice a difference. If you don't game then you probably won't notice the difference but to claim it makesno difference at all just shows your ignorance.
3 Likes #17
Been PC gaming for about 12 years mate. Of course I've noticed ghosting on Rock Band games - because I've played them on LCD Televisions... which have worse response times than TN panel monitors.
Everyone has different opinions, and just like when I facepalm if somebody mentions a 1000:1 contrast ratio is poor, I'll facepalm when somebody claims that a 5ms response time isn't good enough. It's all clever marketing, it really is. If I could line up a series of monitors, covering the makes and models and just showing the screens... all of them varying from 2ms to 8ms I'd actually put my life savings and everything I own on the fact you simply would not be able to tell the difference.

Oh and this argument is completely redundant anyways. Remember I mentioned clever markerting? That Acer V243H's '2 ms' response time, is actually the G2G response - which is roughly 5ms proper response time, at best.


Edited By: mamboboy on May 11, 2011 20:27: f
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Just my input but i think youll find your all actually alittle form the truth. They will all claim 2ms or 5ms but the true lag is determined by the tv's processor and the number is more like 20 ms and up. The processor cant keep up with what the pixels could theroticaly do. So a 5ms monitor could end up being faster than a 2ms monitor, just like contrast ratios are complete nonsense, they test them difffernt etc. Check out you will see on there that ture lag on tv's that clam 5ms etc will be more like 30ms. I await to get shot down :(
#19
nice deal
#20
Sawb
Just my input but i think youll find your all actually alittle form the truth. They will all claim 2ms or 5ms but the true lag is determined by the tv's processor and the number is more like 20 ms and up. The processor cant keep up with what the pixels could theroticaly do. So a 5ms monitor could end up being faster than a 2ms monitor, just like contrast ratios are complete nonsense, they test them difffernt etc. Check out you will see on there that ture lag on tv's that clam 5ms etc will be more like 30ms. I await to get shot down :(

It’s a combination of the two surely; panel response time and input lag.
But I see what you mean in that people overly focus on response time but I think most LCDs with a low response time have a low input lag anyway these days. If you are a gamer though do your home work properly.
#21
mamboboy
Been PC gaming for about 12 years mate. Of course I've noticed ghosting on Rock Band games - because I've played them on LCD Televisions... which have worse response times than TN panel monitors.
Everyone has different opinions, and just like when I facepalm if somebody mentions a 1000:1 contrast ratio is poor, I'll facepalm when somebody claims that a 5ms response time isn't good enough. It's all clever marketing, it really is. If I could line up a series of monitors, covering the makes and models and just showing the screens... all of them varying from 2ms to 8ms I'd actually put my life savings and everything I own on the fact you simply would not be able to tell the difference.

Oh and this argument is completely redundant anyways. Remember I mentioned clever markerting? That Acer V243H's '2 ms' response time, is actually the G2G response - which is roughly 5ms proper response time, at best.


Not discounting your experience, there's nothing wrong with anything you've said here, but try doing consistent one frame links in SF4 with an 8ms response.. Not going to happen unless you've gdlk muscle memory.
#22
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Will this run Minesweeper (windows version) properly?
#23
Is this LED backlighted?

How would it be for gaming? I see a lot of discussion about the 5ms response but I'm not sure who to listen to

I got raped by ebuyer at easter when they canceled my order after taking payment for one of the Samsung monitors that they had on offer and think this looks an ideal replacement.

Also, any idea if it tilts?

Edited By: JustExtreme on May 12, 2011 12:02
2 Likes #24
DownHill911
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Will this run Minesweeper (windows version) properly?


Never tested such a demanding game before, i recommend you try it for yourself and report back to us.
2 Likes #25
DownHill911
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Will this run Minesweeper (windows version) properly?


Yes, but you'll need a Core i7 with 16GB of RAM to get an acceptable framerate.
#26
Manufacturer claimed contrast ratios and response times differ between manufacturers in how they obtain the figures making them a useless reference point for comparison. No one would compare a 3 litre Ferrari with a 3 litre Land Rover solely on engine size, that's an exaggeration for the purpose of illustration in this post, but in essence it works. Same goes for different cpu manufacturers and cpu speed. If you want to consider refresh times and contrast ratio then look at the reference techniques the manufacturer is using to come to those values. Lies or pushing the truth to the limit never get in the way of marketing to a consumer.
1 Like #27
Delivered yesterday. Brilliant, just brilliant.

Edited By: andythebrave on May 14, 2011 15:04

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