£25 for chiropractic consultation and treatment session worth £175 at Same Day Chiropractic – save 86% on a 50-point body check, analysis, x-ray and treatment! (London) - HotUKDeals
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* This kgbdeal includes a consultation with 50-point body check, a one-hour full structural analysis and x-ray and a one-hour treatment

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If you’re days are distracted with back or neck pain, today’s kgbdeal might help to soothe your aches away. Our kgb Agents have teamed up with the professionals at Same Day Chiropractic who will work their magic hands to put a spring back in your step! For just £25, instead of the usual £175 you will be treated to a full consultation with body check and one-hour treatment, saving you 86%.

what’s in the deal?
- Full consultation with 50-point body check (£50)
- Full one-hour structural analysis with x-ray (£80)
- One-hour treatment (£45)

about Same Day Chiropractic
This team of world class professional chiropractors are based in London and specialise in back and neck pain treatment. They can also provide treatment for whiplash, pregnancy pain, sciatica and slipped discs.
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1 Like #1
If Chiropractic is/was part of 'real' medicine then just like Orthopaedic Surgeons, Physiotherapists, Radiologists etc etc, there would be Chiropractic 'Doctors' in every NHS hospital. Chiropractors can help in certain cases to alleviate pain but I'm very suspicious of ANYONE who asks me to sign a waiver before they start 'treating' me. Yes you will sign a waiver when undergoing an operation but if I go to my GP I don't get asked to sign a waiver. If my GP sends me to see a Physiotherapist I don't sign a waiver... etc etc.

Edited By: Blasphemous on Feb 16, 2011 20:37: Spell check.
banned 2 Likes #2
Cold. Chiropractic can cause more problems than it solves
#3
POintless discussion, as whenever a valid point is made, then no sensible discussion follows -
I am still; waiting for "iglimpse" to reply from the last Chiropractic thread!

If NICE approve it for the NHS, then my only complaint is why is it not more available there?
#4
Blasphemous
If Chiropractics is/was part of 'real' medicine then just like Orthopaedic Surgeons, Physiotherapists, Radiologists etc etc, there would be Chiropractic 'Doctors' in every NHS hospital. Chiropractors can help in certain cases to alleviate pain but I'm very suspicious of ANYONE who asks me to sign a waiver before they start 'treating' me. Yes you will sign a waiver when undergoing an operation but if I go to my GP I don't get asked to sign a waiver. If my GP sends me to see a Physiotherapist I don't sign a waiver... etc etc.

Mumbo Jumbo! :p


More myths!

I have never signed a waiver with any Chiropractor I have seen or been treated by, in various parts of the country! I fact I have never signed anything at all other than a Debit card slip, (yes, that out of date!)
Besides, even if they did, you can't sign away your legal rights in this country, so a waiver is totally pointless! If someone (Therapist or not) is reckless or negligent, you have got him, even if you signed in blood, no difference.
#5
nihcaj
you can't sign away your legal rights in this country, so a waiver is totally pointless! If someone (Therapist or not) is reckless or negligent, you have got him, even if you signed in blood, no difference.
WRONG!
nihcaj
POintless discussion, as whenever a valid point is made, then no sensible discussion follows
If you wish to discuss this I'm more than willing to embarrass you.
#6
Should read "£25 for chiropractic consultation and treatment session which normally costs £175"

What it's worth is debatable.
#7
Blasphemous
nihcaj
you can't sign away your legal rights in this country, so a waiver is totally pointless! If someone (Therapist or not) is reckless or negligent, you have got him, even if you signed in blood, no difference.
WRONG!
nihcaj
POintless discussion, as whenever a valid point is made, then no sensible discussion follows
If you wish to discuss this I'm more than willing to embarrass you.


It won't embarrass me, nor will it serve any point, you have made up your mind, and you are happy spouting myth and fantasy, without any backing evidence without my assistance, so what possible benefit to either of us will that serve?
#8
inicholson
Should read "£25 for chiropractic consultation and treatment session which normally costs £175"

What it's worth is debatable.


Good point, I certainly pay NOTHING like those sorts of fees without any offers, of course this offer is London based, and as we all know, everything is overpriced in London.
banned#9
nihcaj
I am still; waiting for "iglimpse" to reply from the last Chiropractic thread!


Maybe he's given up since you can't ever change the opinion of a true believer
#10
nihcaj
It won't embarrass me, nor will it serve any point, you have made up your mind, and you are happy spouting myth and fantasy, without any backing evidence without my assistance, so what possible benefit to either of us will that serve?
Have you actually taken the time to read back to yourself what you've written here? You say I have 'made up my mind'. Of course I've made up my mind, I wouldn't have an opinion if I hadn't come to a conclusion!http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-rolleye-smileys-323.gif
nihcaj
It won't embarrass me, nor will it serve any point
No because like me, you've made up your mind.
nihcaj
you have made up your mind, and you are happy spouting myth and fantasy, without any backing evidence without my assistance
NO ONE requires/needs/wants 'your assistance' to make a statement!
nihcaj
what possible benefit to either of us will that serve?
Quite obviously none. As I have said, you have made up your mind. What you cannot seem to accept is that other people are able to make up their own minds 'without your assistance'!
#11
Blasphemous
nihcaj
It won't embarrass me, nor will it serve any point, you have made up your mind, and you are happy spouting myth and fantasy, without any backing evidence without my assistance, so what possible benefit to either of us will that serve?
Have you actually taken the time to read back to yourself what you've written here? You say I have 'made up my mind'. Of course I've made up my mind, I wouldn't have an opinion if I hadn't come to a conclusion!http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-rolleye-smileys-323.gif
nihcaj
It won't embarrass me, nor will it serve any point
No because like me, you've made up your mind.
nihcaj
you have made up your mind, and you are happy spouting myth and fantasy, without any backing evidence without my assistance
NO ONE requires/needs/wants 'your assistance' to make a statement!
nihcaj
what possible benefit to either of us will that serve?
Quite obviously none. As I have said, you have made up your mind. What you cannot seem to accept is that other people are able to make up their own minds 'without your assistance'!


So, you explain to me why NICE consider it an appropriate evidence based treatment in the NHS,?
You wont' believe me, fine, but what qualifies you to disagree with the Government body? Perhaps your medical qualifications are more impressive than those of the NICE body?
#12
KillFelix
nihcaj
I am still; waiting for "iglimpse" to reply from the last Chiropractic thread!


Maybe he's given up since you can't ever change the opinion of a true believer


It's not a believer it's someone who poses as a Doctor, who won't come out and contradict the Government NICE guidance! Gone very quiet since then
#13
Blasphemous
What you cannot seem to accept is that other people are able to make up their own minds 'without your assistance'!


Don't believe me... I am just a user of the therapy,

What qualifies us to accept your opinion though?

Are you better qualified than the Government NICE committee who approve this for the NHS on an Evidence-based basis?
#14
nihcaj
Don't believe me... I am just a user of the therapy,
With respect nihcaj, I'm really not interested in what you do with your money or your time.

nihcaj
What qualifies us to accept your opinion though?
What???? You don't have to be qualified to accept someone's opinion!

nihcaj
Are you better qualified than the Government NICE committee who approve this for the NHS on an Evidence-based basis?
As I have no idea what qualifications the committee members have I am unable to answer that part of your question. However, you STILL seem unable to comprehend the fact that NO ONE needs 'your assistance' or indeed needs to be qualified in a particular field in order to make an informed decision on something.

I repeat, if this therapy was/is effective why aren't there chiropractors in EVERY NHS hospital in this country? Lower Back Pain is a huge issue which has a significant impact on employment/the economy. Therefore an adoption of ANY therapy that could treat that would save the country millions of pounds every year.

You see nihcaj, I don't need to to qualified to the level of a NICE committee member to form an opinion. Simple research can and will give you all the information you require to arrive at an informed opinion. And strangely, I've been able to carry out my own research, through out my life, in various topics and form my own opinions. How on earth I was able to do that for all this time 'without your assistance', is amazing don't you think?

IF you have formed your opinion of chiropractics from simply 'using' the service then that is of course entirely your prerogative but although NICE have allowed this therapy to be included in a range of therapies, that does not stand as evidence that this therapy is proven as an effective therapy. Indeed it may well be an effective therapy, but I have yet to see scientific evidence of that.

I would like to end by stating that I'm sure there are many good therapists out there and it is, as in all professions/trades, the few that ruin the name of the many.
#15
Blasphemous
nihcaj
Don't believe me... I am just a user of the therapy,
With respect nihcaj, I'm really not interested in what you do with your money or your time.

nihcaj
What qualifies us to accept your opinion though?
What???? You don't have to be qualified to accept someone's opinion!

nihcaj
Are you better qualified than the Government NICE committee who approve this for the NHS on an Evidence-based basis?
As I have no idea what qualifications the committee members have I am unable to answer that part of your question. However, you STILL seem unable to comprehend the fact that NO ONE needs 'your assistance' or indeed needs to be qualified in a particular field in order to make an informed decision on something.

I repeat, if this therapy was/is effective why aren't there chiropractors in EVERY NHS hospital in this country? Lower Back Pain is a huge issue which has a significant impact on employment/the economy. Therefore an adoption of ANY therapy that could treat that would save the country millions of pounds every year.

You see nihcaj, I don't need to to qualified to the level of a NICE committee member to form an opinion. Simple research can and will give you all the information you require to arrive at an informed opinion. And strangely, I've been able to carry out my own research, through out my life, in various topics and form my own opinions. How on earth I was able to do that for all this time 'without your assistance', is amazing don't you think?

IF you have formed your opinion of chiropractics from simply 'using' the service then that is of course entirely your prerogative but although NICE have allowed this therapy to be included in a range of therapies, that does not stand as evidence that this therapy is proven as an effective therapy. Indeed it may well be an effective therapy, but I have yet to see scientific evidence of that.

I would like to end by stating that I'm sure there are many good therapists out there and it is, as in all professions/trades, the few that ruin the name of the many.


There are non so blind...... as those that won't believe the evidence before them.
banned#16
nihcaj
There are non so blind...... as those that won't believe the evidence before them.


The only evidence to for chiropractic is that it CAN alleviate minor back pain, but that kind of trouble usually goes away by itself anyway.

Ironically, all the other studies into chiropractic don't hold water since they aren't even double blinded. What they did in those studies is akin to shooting bullets into a barn and then painting the targets around the holes.
#17
KillFelix
nihcaj
There are non so blind...... as those that won't believe the evidence before them.


The only evidence to for chiropractic is that it CAN alleviate minor back pain, but that kind of trouble usually goes away by itself anyway.

Ironically, all the other studies into chiropractic don't hold water since they aren't even double blinded. What they did in those studies is akin to shooting bullets into a barn and then painting the targets around the holes.


You are making it up, not what it says at all
#18
Bogus!
#19

KillFelix
The only evidence to for chiropractic is that it CAN alleviate minor back pain, but that kind of trouble usually goes away by itself anyway.

nihcaj
You are making it up, not what it says at all


It says:

"You should not be offered an X-ray of your spine if you have non-specific
low back pain. There isn’t any evidence that X-rays are useful in improving
care for people with non-specific back pain, and it is advisable to avoid
unnecessary X-rays"

"Manual therapy
If you choose a course of manual therapy, this should include up to
9 sessions over a period of up to 12 weeks.
There are a number of different types of manual therapy, including
manipulation, mobilisation and massage. Mobilisation and massage are
performed by a wide variety of healthcare practitioners. Manipulation can
be performed by chiropractors and osteopaths, as well as by specially
trained doctors and physiotherapists"

So if you've got lower back pain you should see your GP and should be able to get 9 sessions for free. You don't need an X-ray (though in some circumstances an MRI scan might be useful; maybe we should ask Same Day Chiropractic if they can do one?), you don't need to pay £25 and you shouldn't risk a dodgy chiropractor trying to persuade he can cure all your other ailments (or course a responsible chiropractor will make no claims beyond helping with your lower back pain.

Physiotherapy has helped me - it's also free on the NHS and involves less mumbo-jumbo and inflated claims than chiropractic.
#20
inicholson

KillFelix
The only evidence to for chiropractic is that it CAN alleviate minor back pain, but that kind of trouble usually goes away by itself anyway.

nihcaj
You are making it up, not what it says at all


It says:

"You should not be offered an X-ray of your spine if you have non-specific
low back pain. There isn’t any evidence that X-rays are useful in improving
care for people with non-specific back pain, and it is advisable to avoid
unnecessary X-rays"

"Manual therapy
If you choose a course of manual therapy, this should include up to
9 sessions over a period of up to 12 weeks.
There are a number of different types of manual therapy, including
manipulation, mobilisation and massage. Mobilisation and massage are
performed by a wide variety of healthcare practitioners. Manipulation can
be performed by chiropractors and osteopaths, as well as by specially
trained doctors and physiotherapists"

So if you've got lower back pain you should see your GP and should be able to get 9 sessions for free. You don't need an X-ray (though in some circumstances an MRI scan might be useful; maybe we should ask Same Day Chiropractic if they can do one?), you don't need to pay £25 and you shouldn't risk a dodgy chiropractor trying to persuade he can cure all your other ailments (or course a responsible chiropractor will make no claims beyond helping with your lower back pain.

Physiotherapy has helped me - it's also free on the NHS and involves less mumbo-jumbo and inflated claims than chiropractic.


I don't know where you get the mumbo jumbo thing from... mine hasn't said anything even remotely non-conventional, ever! I think you are confusing them with the hocus pocus which comes from so-called Corley-McTimoney practitioners, which are best avoided, although they do't really manpulate anything, jsut wave their hands about!

Physiotherapists who offer manipulation DO exist... seen two, on the NHS as it happens, not overly impressed, although all agreed on the same diagnosis as my (previous) Chiropractor and an Osteopath. I was rather pleased they were so in agreement, something no two Orthopaedic surgeons have so far managed!
#21
I don't know where you get the mumbo jumbo thing from.. mine hasn't said anything even remotely non-conventional, ever!


That makes you the first person I've ever heard of who managed to visit a chiropractor and not be diagnosed with vertebral subluxation.
#22
According to Same Day Chiropractic's website:

"Chiropractors mainly treat people with back, neck pain:
-See the person with the disease
-Increase your resistance to germs
-Improve nervous system
-Reduce causes of nerve interference
-Promote proper bodily function"

I agreed with the first line, it all went a bit pear-shaped after that.

They go on..

"You (sic) treatment may or may not be carried out on the first visit. This depends on the findings of your examinations and is decided by your chiropractor. The first visit usually takes about 40 minutes." (Alternatively, another part of their website offers a free 20min initial consultation)

"Once you begin your treatment, you would have to come for regular visits as a part of the treatment."

Loving the use of "you would have to", but what will that cost me?

"You’ll find our prices for chiropractic treatment are competitive.
Initial consultation including examination £50
Digital X-ray one area (up to 2 X-Rays) £50
Digital X-ray two areas (up to 5 X-Rays) £50"

and finally...

"You may be shown a short video that explains the purpose and meaning of the findings in your initial examination. The video will help you to know the reason behind your pain and discomfort. It would also explain the underlying problem (if any) and help you understand your situation in detail."

£50 to watch a video then? Bargain!
banned#23
nihcaj
KillFelix
nihcaj
There are non so blind...... as those that won't believe the evidence before them.


The only evidence to for chiropractic is that it CAN alleviate minor back pain, but that kind of trouble usually goes away by itself anyway.

Ironically, all the other studies into chiropractic don't hold water since they aren't even double blinded. What they did in those studies is akin to shooting bullets into a barn and then painting the targets around the holes.


You are making it up, not what it says at all


No I'm not, you are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiropractic#Evidence_basis
#24
inicholson
Physiotherapy has helped me - it's also free on the NHS and involves less mumbo-jumbo and inflated claims than chiropractic.


Yes I dare say it is ideal for mild conditions.
Mine is real, physical and well visible. Surgery hasn't helped, made it much worse in fact.

I am pleased a short chat and a couple of weeks exercising helped yours though, most people are not so lucky. I have seen at least 4 Physios, 3 Orthopaedic surgeons and a Pain Consultant (Anaesthetist) who between them have achieved nothing at best, to at worst 18 months total incapacity.
Chiropractors don't go in for such extremes, not cured, but best pain relief.

Edited By: nihcaj on Feb 18, 2011 12:15

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