30GB OCZ **SOLID STATE** 2.5" SATA-2 hard drive *preorder* £69.91 @ Scan - HotUKDeals
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These seem to be £100+ elsewhere surely worth a shot on the preorder. Free delivery if you signed up for one of the offers.

Manufacturer: OCZ Technology
Size/Capacity: 30GB
Read: 155 MB/s
Write: 90 MB/s
Form Factor: 2.5"
Connectivity: Mini USB
SATA 300
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#1
£67.99 at Expansys (+ Delivery), not in stock there though either.

Only about $79 in the USA for this, pity the pound is so weak now :(
#2
What's making this 30gb HDD so dear ?
#3
Stradders
What's making this 30gb HDD so dear ?

Its an SSD.

Copied from Crucial's website...

"Why an SSD?
Put simply, SSDs are flash-based drives that offer greater reliability and faster performance than traditional magnetic hard drives. SSDs (solid state drives) are data storage devices that utilize non-volatile (do not lose data when power is removed) flash memory for computing applications that traditionally rely upon a mechanical hard disk drive. Crucial SSDs are designed as industry-standard drop-in replacements (via a SATA connection) for hard drives.

Consisting of just NAND, a controller, connectors, and a PCB, the SSD has no moving parts, creating greater stability by eliminating the mechanical delays and failures associated with a conventional magnetic hard disk drive. "
#4
Stradders
What's making this 30gb HDD so dear ?


The reason is very simple, the are very reliable, also perfect in performance and reliablity. And if you had one of these you would very rarely upgrade

And you would problarly be shock when you see vista or xp (lets not forget ubuntu) boot up a pc
#5
This is one of the slowest SSDs and hence one of the cheapest,Good if you need the ruggedness of solid state but slower than a hard disk,
Tony
#6
tonyg1962
This is one of the slowest SSDs and hence one of the cheapest,Good if you need the ruggedness of solid state but slower than a hard disk,
Tony


these are actually high midrange, the transcend ones are much slower,
these will actually read at a good 125MBs and blow trad harddrives out of the water on read, a wee bit slower on writes but hey they will take knocks and use a lot less power meanwhile and they have a 2yr warrenty as standard
pity oos, overclockers had them in at this price the other week.
#7
Note: These are from the value range of SSD's that OCZ do.

Next is their Core and Core V2 series, followed by their overly expensive performance ones.

The supposedly better Core and Core V2 drives were tested in this months Custom PC, the standard one scored just 71% for speed (69% overall), but the V2 got 82% for speed (83% overall) and a recommendation.

Even with these scores though the average write speeds ranged from just 30MB/sec to 50MB/sec - far from the claimed 90MB/sec. (Full SSD article is good if you want to check it out, it's still in the shops)

Still, not bad if you need silence/minium power consumption and a high read rate.
#8
UberTiger

Still, not bad if you need silence/minium power consumption and a high read rate.


The most compelling reason I want one is they are much more rugged than spinning disks - great for my notebook that I carry around a lot - my data is worth more to me than the notebook! (obviously it is all backed up over the net!)
#9
do you think i could use one of these in a dell mini 9?
#10
dajg
The most compelling reason I want one is they are much more rugged than spinning disks - great for my notebook that I carry around a lot - my data is worth more to me than the notebook! (obviously it is all backed up over the net!)


Yup, that too! Forgot one of the most important reasons!
#11
Guys this debate crops up time and again. In theory SSD should be quicker, but in practice they have never been shown to have any noticeable performance increase.

Reliability also is as of yet unproven - again in theory, no moving parts should mean more reliable, but in practice the failure rates do not back this up.

These are good bits of kit, but for very specialist reasons.

a) Noise suppression
b) Heat/power usage
c) For use in an environment which requires minimal moving parts such as dusty environments.
#12
is this SSD good for laptop

got a Dell m1330.... and the hard drive is quite noisy
#13
OCZ are soon going to release a much better drive than this for similar coin. I'd not get this when you can get V2 for around the same. But then I'd not get any untill they sort out the 'intel chipset' nonsense with regards to these drives stuttering and become slower than a 5400 **** drive. You cant wait and wait for technology, but this one is defo one to wait until the new year. I'll be getting SSD that can run on intel and use that for the OS and apps and then 2 x 1tb for storage. Great product, not voting cold, but beware if you have an intel chipset :-)
#14
they had the v2 at overclockers and were more expensive, they seem to have changed the colour of the V1''s since i first saw them. makes me wonder if this is a different revision or something. i'm hanging fire for the time being until the bigger capacities become cheaper. But if you can afford it, these things blow standard Hard drives out of the water ideal for booting up windows and vista.
#15
250GB version is better value for money though. 8-)
#16
dajg
The most compelling reason I want one is they are much more rugged than spinning disks - great for my notebook that I carry around a lot - my data is worth more to me than the notebook! (obviously it is all backed up over the net!)


That's true if you are worried about losing data due to disk failure. Doesn't necessarily protect against the operating system screwing up your data, though, so good backups are still necessary for valuable data.

However, I value the SSD in my EEE PC, so these things do have a place in potentially hostile environments. Just wish they offered a bit more capacity for the price...
suspended#17
these ocz v1 drives are really ****. the v2 are much better but still not great. wait a few months for the intel drives to become cheaper.
#18
They are not worth it at the moment considering you can get a samsung spinpoint f1 1tb for the same price that will out perform it.
#19
Over the ten years I've had PCs the least reliable component has consistently been memory I'm on my 4th lot of DDR in this machine.
#20
These will be fab for PVR's when they get better value for money.

Especially for a bedroom.
#21
Klyken
Over the ten years I've had PCs the least reliable component has consistently been memory I'm on my 4th lot of DDR in this machine.


You may want to look at a new PSU
Tony
#22
siliconbits;3606514
250GB version is better value for money though. 8-)

Depends what you want it for - if it's portable computing away from the mains then a small SSD will be better than a HDD as it will use less power thus giving you longer battery life.
#23
Struggling to see the benefits of this. Ok you could use it as a system primary boot drive but in terms of cost per gb its very expensive. You can get a 32gb memory stick for half this price easily.
#24
tonyg1962
You may want to look at a new PSU
Tony


I say this machine, but its been upgraded over the years first PSU was Antec True Power 430W now its an Seasonic S12 600W.
#25
If one of these fails, you have a far far far far greater chance of losing ALL of your data in an instant... compare to a HDD, which will typically slowly fail usually giving some indications and allowing your to get your data off.

I have a big dislike for SSD, reliability claims are nonsense
#26
Klyken
Over the ten years I've had PCs the least reliable component has consistently been memory I'm on my 4th lot of DDR in this machine.


Whuh? Are you savagely overclocking or overvolting, or are you running a nForce motherboard or something? RAM should be practically invincible.
banned#27
Well Solid state hard drives will actually have alot shorter lifespan then a standerd harddrive in reality from what i hear. One problem with solid state is it was never designed for constant read/writing so when used in a PC constantly as a HDD its life span is severly reduced.

Not sure why people say they are more reliable and rugged e.t.c, if by that you mean you can bang them around and drop them then yeah , but how often is your hardrive going to be moving? Fact is the only high point since the speed isnt much better is they do not make any noise, a standerd Hard drive beats this hard drive in every other factor.
#28
MrShed;3605935
Guys this debate crops up time and again. In theory SSD should be quicker, but in practice they have never been shown to have any noticeable performance increase.

Actually in practice they can be a lot faster, many comparisons look at desktop machines rather than the areas where SSD's are more useful which is in the1.8in market. I have two machines of near identical spec with one running a 1.8in 60GB 4200rpm drive and the other a 30GB SSD and the performance difference is night and day, the SSD version is fast and responsive whereas the HDD version is sluggish.

John
#29
As others have said SSD should be faster but at present they are not. This partly comes down to which OS you are using as well as at least on SSD mfr has moaned that these don't work well (and even admitted they will be slower) running on vista just because of how the hard drive layer works in that OS.

Next round of SSD's should sort this out though as they are supposedly altering the hardware i/f to compensate for Vista's shortfalls in this area
#30
Reser
how often is your hardrive going to be moving?


...pretty often if it's in a laptop.
#31
Klyken;3606645
Over the ten years I've had PCs the least reliable component has consistently been memory I'm on my 4th lot of DDR in this machine.


lol ddr1?

or ddr2?
banned#32
wow... I wouldnt want one for that price.... spinning HDD are not that bad!
#33
Does anybody know of any enclosures for the SSD drives....I am aware that they are not same as SATA
#34
Rupee Man
Does anybody know of any enclosures for the SSD drives....I am aware that they are not same as SATA


actually these are exactly the same connections as a standard desktop sata150/300 so any sata caddy should do if it can keep up with the drive read speed
#35
Im going to vote this one cold.
Benefits
Faster read/write
No moving parts

Drawbacks
Expensive
Low Capacity
No proven power saving

That last point is enough to think twice about buying one of these. And the fact that my 4 year old laptop hdd has been dropped so many times means I wont be buying one until ssd's improve in size and price.
#36
alera
Struggling to see the benefits of this. Ok you could use it as a system primary boot drive but in terms of cost per gb its very expensive. You can get a 32gb memory stick for half this price easily.


But not at this read/write speed - even the actual real world speeds as opposed to mfr specs.
#37
cats


best of all, u never need to defrag these drives, unlike normal HDs where the data gets fragmented and u lose performance, these have 0.01 - 0.03 ms access times, around 100 times faster than a 7200rpm drive.



Data fragmentation has not been a performance issue for many years - the OS pre-caches the data regardless of location.
#38
cats
I bought a V2 from overclockers,

can defo state that the read speed is 140 mb/s and the write is marginally slower than a good 7200rpm hd

loading windows or any app is many times faster, almost instant on smaller apps.....

I have an intel chipset and have had no problems with it, no stuttering of any kind

once a 120gb one becomes affordable, will get one for my PVR , no more hd noise or need for a noisy fan

best of all, u never need to defrag these drives, unlike normal HDs where the data gets fragmented and u lose performance, these have 0.01 - 0.03 ms access times, around 100 times faster than a 7200rpm drive.

dont know about this version, but the V2 is well worth buying as a boot drive


Bang on mate, and if it works then yes its great. Not taking the chance with my chipset at the mo, will get one in Feb. I dont think people realise the sheer performance improvement that you get from these drives! For the price its a steal!
#39
64gb core version is 75 dollars in USA after rebate
hate UK
#40
cats
i get 145mb/s all the time , compare that to 70mb/s peak from my very fast 640gb dual platter WD drive, and thats peak, add in the time taken to access non sequential data ( it never is ) and you can drop that down to a 30-40mb/s max continuos rate

so at 145mb/s you can safely say that everything is loading 4 times faster, its almost like having a 4x faster pc, after all, the HD has been the bottle neck of PCs for quite a few years now


Nonsense, SSDs vary in speed the same way HDDs do, so although you may peak at 145MB/s transfering a large file in other circumstances (like moving things around the disk or transfering small files) you're not getting anyway near that speed. 30MB/s wouldn't be out of the question.

Besides, if speed is your only concern than a RAID 0 array is cheaper, faster and larger capacity than an SSD.

SSDs seem to have a single advantage right now, and that is a much lower seek time than HDDs. This means that they feel more responsive to use. But they also have problems, some of the cheaper ones like the OCZ ones have been recorded to 'choke' and slow down to a much slower speed than an HDD and reliability is unknown right now.

If you've got the money to spend and are interested in technology you might fancy being an early adopter, but if you just want something that works I'd wait a year or two before switching to SSD.

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