£388 Fujitsu-Siemens AMILO Pi 3635 Core 2 Quad Q8200 Vista Home Premium ATI HD 4850 4GB RAM 1TB HDD DVD±RW (±R DL) BD-ROM £388 @ MISCO - HotUKDeals
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Be it school homework or home office tasks, from Internet surfing to watching Blu- RAyDVDs the highly versatile AMILO Desktop Pi 3635 is ideal for the whole family. IT has more then enough space with its 1TB HDD to store all your family pictures, holiday videos and personal data and 4GB Ram to watch your favourite movies with friends or listen to music fast and efficiently . The AMILO Desktop Pi 3635 is a perfect all-rounder at an affordable price..
Features
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 / 2.33 GHz ( Quad-Core )
4GB RAM / 1TB Hard Disk Drive
Blu-Ray Reader, DVD RW Drive
ATI HD 4850 VGA, 2560 x 1600 Max Resolution Dual DVI, TV Out/HDCP and HDTV
*Includes DVI-HDMI Adapter
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit Edition
Microsoft Office 2007 60 Day try before you buy
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#1
I'm not an expert but looks like a good deal to me with a pretty good graphics card.
#2
Does anybody own one of these pc's? what are they like, psu power?
#3
Bought one of these at end of january at £449 with £50 cashback (£399).

Plays all the latest games fine on high graphics settings and PC seems quiet in operation too.

Used the £35 upgrade to Windows 7 as well.

This was to replace an ageing Fujitsu Scaleo that was 6 years old and only had to replace the motherboard.
#4
looks like an excellent budget games machine. hot from me
#5
Interesting but can`t readily see what the delivery charges are.
What`s the cheapest upgrade to Windows 7 64bit cost ?
#6
I can tell you you will not see better value than this .You cannot even buy the parts for that price.If you are after a very fast comp that can play all the latest games, not all at the highest settings but above PS3 and Xbox360's settings then this is for you.very very good value.
#7
Bought one off eBay after I missed the last Misco deal - paid £350 including del and Win 7 upgrade.

At £388 this is a phenomenal price, and seeing how hot the last one got at £10/£60 more (depending on whether cashback is involved) I suspect this may get warm.

Mine is silent and a really nice machine, plays everything I've chucked at it so far (admittedly not loads!).
#8
Good Deal - don't forget Quidco!

Not sure about the Guarantee tho'
'Warranty One year - carry in'
I suppose that means send back at your own expense!
#9
And this is blueray player you can connect this to your HD TV easy and to a monitor at the same time if you required it to.
#10
ahhhh tempted!! but Ive just picked up an acer Ferrari can't spend £800 on pc's in one month!voted hot though
#11
can someone tell me what the mobo on this would be like for upgrading...id be keen to change the processor and gfx later on rather than splash out on a new pc.

cheers
#12
graphics yes processor fast enough for a long time upgradable but not with the new i5/i7 chips
#13
Good spec, no personal experience of quality, only downside seems to be lack of what some here call 'future proofing' and also if you want W7 that has to be factored into cost. Mosco must have a lot of these as it came up couple of months ago but with a cash back deal. Perhaps those who bought then could enlighten us.
#14
Gez777
Good Deal - don't forget Quidco!

Not sure about the Guarantee tho'
'Warranty One year - carry in'
I suppose that means send back at your own expense!


These have a warranty with fujitsu. Just checked online on my serial:

"1 year Collect & Return Service, 5x9, valid in Europe, Africa and Middle East"
#15
Mighty Anorak
Good spec, no personal experience of quality, only downside seems to be lack of what some here call 'future proofing' and also if you want W7 that has to be factored into cost. Mosco must have a lot of these as it came up couple of months ago but with a cash back deal. Perhaps those who bought then could enlighten us.


Enlighten you as to what? Ask away....


Bear in mind that as good as the i5/i7 ranges are, they are overkill for most users - quad core will fly through all games currently available, as well as processor intensive apps, and that will remain the case for several years yet (I retired my faithful 4 year old dual core to get this PC, which still coped admirably with the latest games).
#16
As far as future proofing this is a mid/hi end comp at a budget price .Also computer tec has refreshes every 1-2years so something even on the most up to date comp would not be upgradable .Quality I personally have no experience of but it is a good brand.This comp is over kill for most users here and will last you a long time .Unless you are hardcore and in which case you would know what to buy and more over the cost!.
#17
Has anyone tried to overclock the january version?

A bit worried cos afterall, if something seems too good to be true, it probably is. Wouldn't be surprised if the motherboard and ram prabably are very cheap stuff that cannot be overclocked.

Though a nice price! would prefer a higher end CPU, but hey that's just nitpicking.
#18
Quicklite
Has anyone tried to overclock the january version?

A bit worried cos afterall, if something seems too good to be true, it probably is. Wouldn't be surprised if the motherboard and ram prabably are very cheap stuff that cannot be overclocked.

Though a nice price! would prefer a higher end CPU, but hey that's just nitpicking.


This isnt a high end gaming rig, and yes I would agree it probably has a cheap MOBO and RAM - but, if you want to be able to tweak it in this fashion you are probably looking at the wrong machine.

IMHO (and only MHO), overclocking is overrated. You are talking here about a quad core machine, each running at 2.66GHz - why would you be desperate to tweak another 10% out of a machine that very little will even touch anyway?
#19
I'll run a system analyzer on mine to see what mobo, ram, other detailed specs it gives.

BRB.... :)
#20
At that price range you are not looking at a overclocker I would be surprised if the bios supports it lol.
#21
Dont buy this thinking you can upgrade it, and even though it has all singing all dancing headlines "quad core" and "4850" The mobo is probably dire, the PSU will be bare minimum if anything, the throughput from processor and memory will probably be crippled, will require a new mobo and probably case and PSU to get the most from it, then you have lost your OS licence also as OEM OS are licenced to the MOBO, good for what it is, but dont expect the best. I would wager that it is less than the sum of all of its parts.
#22
OK guys here it is - sorry, its lengthy:

SiSoftware Sandra

Computer
Manufacturer : Fujitsu Siemens
Model : Amilo Desktop Pi3635A
Family : To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Version : 10601110972
SKU Number : To Be Filled By O.E.M.

Computer Chassis
Manufacturer : Fujitsu Siemens
Type : Desktop
Can be locked : No
Version : To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Power Cord(s) : 1
Asset Tag : To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Boot-up State : Safe
Power State : Safe
Thermal State : Safe
Security State : External Interface Locked-out

Mainboard
Manufacturer : Fujitsu Siemens
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
MPS Version : 1.40
Model : MS-7504VP-PV
Type : Mainboard
Version : 1.1
Asset Tag : To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Location in Chassis : To Be Filled By O.E.M.
BIOS : 64-0100-000001-00101111-040709-MCP73

Mainboard Properties
Removable : No
Replaceable : Yes
Hot Swap : No

On-board Devices
To Be Filled By O.E.M. : Video Adapter (Enabled)

Computer Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 2
Maximum Installable Memory : 16GB
BANK0 - DIMM0 : Samsung M3 78T5663QZ3-CF7 ECB29F81 AssetTagNum0 DIMM Synchronous SDRAM 2GB/64
BANK1 - DIMM1 : Samsung M3 78T5663QZ3-CF7 5BB7A280 AssetTagNum1 DIMM Synchronous SDRAM 2GB/64

Chipset
Model : MSI MCP73 Host Bridge
OEM Device Name : nVidia MCP73 Host Bridge
Revision : K3
Bus : Intel AGTL+
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 333MHz (1.33GHz)
Width : 64-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 10.4GB/s

APIC 1
Version : 1.01
Maximum Interrupts : 24
IRQ Handler Engaged : Yes
Enhanced Support : Yes

Memory Module
Manufacturer : Samsung
Model : M3 78T5663QZ3-CF7
Type : 2GB DIMM DDR2
Technology : 16x(128Mx8)
Speed : PC2-6400U DDR2-800
Standard Timings : 5-6-6-18 3-24-6-3
Version : 1.02
Date of Manufacture : 03 September 2009
Memory DC Line : 1.80V
Timing @ 400MHz : 5-6-6-18 3-24-6-3
Timing @ 333MHz : 4-5-5-15 3-20-5-3

Memory Module
Manufacturer : Samsung
Model : M3 78T5663QZ3-CF7
Type : 2GB DIMM DDR2
Technology : 16x(128Mx8)
Speed : PC2-6400U DDR2-800
Standard Timings : 5-6-6-18 3-24-6-3
Version : 1.02
Date of Manufacture : 03 September 2009
Memory DC Line : 1.80V
Timing @ 400MHz : 5-6-6-18 3-24-6-3
Timing @ 333MHz : 4-5-5-15 3-20-5-3

Environment Sensors 1
Model : Intel Core CPU [P0, C4, T100]
Version : 23.10
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Temperature Sensor(s)
CPU 1 Temperature : 36.00°C td

System Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.30
System Bus 0 : PCI
System Bus 1 : PCI
System Bus 2 : PCIe 1.00 x16 2.5Gbps
System Bus 3 : PCIe 1.00 x1 2.5Gbps
System Bus 4 : PCIe 1.00 x1 2.5Gbps

LPC Hub Controller 1
Model : MSI MCP73 LPC Bridge
OEM Device Name : nVidia MCP73 LPC Bridge
Revision : K3
ACPI Power Management : Yes
ACPI Power Management Enabled : No

LPC Legacy Controller 1
Type : Fintek F71882FG/F71883FG
Version : 0.41
Number of Enabled Devices : 12

Disk Controller
Model : MSI GeForce 7100/nForce 630i
OEM Device Name : nVidia GeForce 7100/nForce 630i
Interface : SATA
Revision : K3
Specification : 1.10
Maximum SATA Mode : G2 / SATA300
Channels : 4
In Use Channels : 2
Port : G2 / SATA300
Port : G1 / SATA150

Audio Device
Model : MSI MCP73 High Definition Audio
OEM Device Name : nVidia MCP73 High Definition Audio
Revision : K2
Type : HD (High-Definition) Audio
Version : 1.00
Number of In / Out / Bi-Directional Streams : 4 / 4 / 0
Number of Serial Data Streams : 1

Audio Codec
Model : Realtek Semiconductor 888 High Definition Audio
Revision : A2
Version : 1.00
Audio Channels : 14

Audio Device
Model : PC Partner Sapphire HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E Dual Slot Fansink
OEM Device Name : ATI (AMD) HD48x0 audio
Revision : A1
Type : HD (High-Definition) Audio
Version : 1.00
Number of In / Out / Bi-Directional Streams : 0 / 1 / 0
Number of Serial Data Streams : 1

Audio Codec
Model : ATI (AMD) AA01h
Revision : A1
Version : 1.00
Audio Channels : 2

USB Controller 1
Model : MSI GeForce 7100/nForce 630i
OEM Device Name : nVidia GeForce 7100/nForce 630i
Revision : K2
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Channels : 10
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 2
Model : MSI GeForce 7100/nForce 630i
OEM Device Name : nVidia GeForce 7100/nForce 630i
Revision : K2
Version : 2.00
Specification : 1.00
Interface : EHCI
Channels : 10
Companion Controllers : 1
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) High (480Mbps)
Addressing Support : 64-bit
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

FireWire/1394 Controller 1
Model : 1396 VT6306 VIA Fire II IEEE-1394 OHCI Link Layer Controller
OEM Device Name : VIA VT6306 VIA Fire II IEEE-1394 OHCI Link Layer Controller
Revision : M1
Version : 1.10
Interface : OHCI
Enhanced Support : No
Speed : 400MHz

SMBus/i2c Controller 1
Model : nVidia MCP5+ SMBus 1
Version : A.01
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No
Slave Device Enabled : No
PEC Support : No

SMBus/i2c Controller 2
Model : nVidia MCP5+ SMBus 2
Version : A.01
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No
Slave Device Enabled : No
PEC Support : No

Expansion Slot(s)
PCI1 (1h) : PCI 32-bit +3.3V Shared PME Half-Length Used
PCI2 (2h) : PCI 32-bit +3.3V Shared PME Half-Length Available

Port Connector(s)
J1A1 - NULL : Mouse
J1A1 - NULL : Keyboard
J2A2 - USB1 : USB / USB
J2A2 - USB2 : USB / USB
J4A1 - NULL : Parallel Port ECP/EPP
J2A1 - NULL : Serial Port 16550A
J6A1 - Audio Mic In : Audio / Mini-jack
J6A1 - Audio Line In : Audio / Mini-jack
J6B1 - AUX IN : Audio / CD-ROM Sound Input
J6B2 - CDIN : Audio / CD-ROM Sound Input
J6J2 - PRI IDE : ATA
J6J1 - SEC IDE : ATA
J4J1 - FLOPPY : Floppy Disk
J9H1 - FRONT PNL : 9 Pin Dual Inline
J1B1 - CHASSIS REAR FAN : None
J2F1 - CPU FAN : None
J8B4 - FRONT FAN : None
J9G2 - FNT USB : None
J6C3 - FP AUD : None
J9G1 - CONFIG : None
J8C1 - SCSI LED : None
J9J2 - INTRUDER : None
J9G4 - ITP : None
J2H1 - MAIN POWER : None

Performance Tips
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
Warning 2507 : Mainboard has too few memory slots. Upgrading the memory may be difficult or expensive.
Warning 2508 : All memory slots are full. Upgrading the memory may be difficult or expensive.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.
#23
If you have a clue what we are talking about and are interested in it ,then this is probably not the computer for you .lol
#24
Oops - edited to remove the serials :-D
#25
Soulreape
Dont buy this thinking you can upgrade it, and even though it has all singing all dancing headlines "quad core" and "4850" The mobo is probably dire, the PSU will be bare minimum if anything, the throughput from processor and memory will probably be crippled, will require a new mobo and probably case and PSU to get the most from it, then you have lost your OS licence also as OEM OS are licenced to the MOBO, good for what it is, but dont expect the best. I would wager that it is less than the sum of all of its parts.


The point is you don't and will not need to upgrade .Its a through away price.Try and duplicate what you get for the price then ,consider it a challenge.
#26
double post
#28
MrShed
Enlighten you as to what? Ask away....


Bear in mind that as good as the i5/i7 ranges are, they are overkill for most users - quad core will fly through all games currently available, as well as processor intensive apps, and that will remain the case for several years yet (I retired my faithful 4 year old dual core to get this PC, which still coped admirably with the latest games).


Last time this came up I nearly brought one but for a few remarks that stuck in my mind such as Fujitsu are not customer friendly, the white parts get dirty, no way to add extra RAM to take advantage of W7 64bit, etc, etc. My main concerns are overall quality of components, noise and ability to play occasional hardware intensive game now or that may appear couple of months down the road.
#29


4850 will run all over that 220... It's not even gonna be funny lol. :p

This is definitely great value - but for me if each core runs at 2.33Ghz, in single threaded apps that's not much. Part of the beauty of C2 back then was its great overclockability. Even so it needs a half decent MB at least.

I made the mistake of owning cheap MB +E6300 already, with intention of OCing it way higher, but the bubble burst, need decent memory and MB to do that... :)
#30


Graphics card well over twice the speed than the one you looking at and the rest about on par.
#31
Cannot see an option to upgrade to Windows 7?
#32
Okie dokie.

- I work as a computer engineer, and in my experience, Fujitsu are generally pretty good at CS (used to have to deal with them on a daily basis). Certainly there are some horror stories, but the same goes for most manufacturers, and certainly online retailers of components.
- White parts getting dirty - certainly hasnt been an issue for me as of yet (purchased in Jan).
- RAM increase would indeed be tricky - there are only 2 DIMM slots and both are used (2x2GB). You could however replace both modules, as the mobo supports up to 16GB. 4GB is more than enough for the vast majority of uses though.
- I've been playing Arkham Asylum on full settings recently, and it performs with no issues whatsoever. Same for Just Cause 2.
- Noise - its virtually silent at low draw. Gets a little noisier when playing a game, but not loads.
- Component quality I cant comment on too much - but it has a warranty.

Hope that helps a bit.
#33
geezer466
Cannot see an option to upgrade to Windows 7?


The upgrade expired end of Jan I believe.
#34
The reason I'm kinda nitpicking about the cpu, is that my office has standard Q9550, paying something of lesser spec doesn't make sense. However, I guess most aren't as lucky, and this is a damn good piece of hardware for the bucks.
#35
Mighty Anorak
Last time this came up I nearly brought one but for a few remarks that stuck in my mind such as Fujitsu are not customer friendly, the white parts get dirty, no way to add extra RAM to take advantage of W7 64bit, etc, etc. My main concerns are overall quality of components, noise and ability to play occasional hardware intensive game now or that may appear couple of months down the road.

4gb more than enough and it can be upgraded to 8/16gb if needed. Games wise all I can say is that in my experience this will be able to play most if not all games in some form for the next 3+ years .I can back this theory up.This is around 3x faster than a PS3 but don't let that fool you as a PS3 is a gaming system and the games are highly optimised for it ,that said that is part of my theory as to why it will be fine for the foreseeable future .
#36
MrShed
Okie dokie.

- I work as a computer engineer, and in my experience, Fujitsu are generally pretty good at CS (used to have to deal with them on a daily basis). Certainly there are some horror stories, but the same goes for most manufacturers, and certainly online retailers of components.
- White parts getting dirty - certainly hasnt been an issue for me as of yet (purchased in Jan).
- RAM increase would indeed be tricky - there are only 2 DIMM slots and both are used (2x2GB). You could however replace both modules, as the mobo supports up to 16GB. 4GB is more than enough for the vast majority of uses though.
- I've been playing Arkham Asylum on full settings recently, and it performs with no issues whatsoever. Same for Just Cause 2.
- Noise - its virtually silent at low draw. Gets a little noisier when playing a game, but not loads.
- Component quality I cant comment on too much - but it has a warranty.

Hope that helps a bit.


Console ports Arkham Asylum and Just Cause 2 aren't exactly great benchmarks, considering this costs almost 4 times as much as an Xbox. Stick something like Crysis in it and see how it runs at 1080p on High Settings.

Its quiet because its not really powering anything worthwhile.

Its a micro ATX case, which means if you want to upgrade in the future you are going to have to buy new motherboard and PSU, or be very limited in your options. And the motherboard that is in it is awful.

If you have any kind of ability and want to upgrade at any point, build your own, seriously, this may look all shiny and cheap and thats exactly what it is, shiny and cheap like Argos diamonte rings.

And I dont know of any decent company that uses Fujitsu. Being a contractor I have been round a few companies.
#37
Soulreape
Console ports Arkham Asylum and Just Cause 2 aren't exactly great benchmarks, considering this costs almost 4 times as much as an Xbox. Stick something like Crysis in it and see how it runs at 1080p on High Settings.

I realise that, but I'm just giving an example of what I have tried.

A ridiculous statement to even comment on the price compared to an Xbox though, and you know it.



Its quiet because its not really powering anything worthwhile.

Hmmm...


Its a micro ATX case, which means if you want to upgrade in the future you are going to have to buy new motherboard and PSU, or be very limited in your options. And the motherboard that is in it is awful.

I dont believe it is a micro ATX case....


If you have any kind of ability and want to upgrade at any point, build your own, seriously, this may look all shiny and cheap and thats exactly what it is, shiny and cheap like Argos diamonte rings.

Thats not entirely true is it.

As stated above, it ISNT a high end gaming rig, it is what it is.

But SOME of the components certainly are high end - basically you are complaining about the mobo, PSU and perhaps the RAM. None of which are high end, but work - and work well.


And I dont know of any decent company that uses Fujitsu. Being a contractor I have been round a few companies.


Well, I know of quite a few, having been in the same boat.

You are entitled to your opinion, as we all are - but dont state it as fact when it is an opinion!
1 Like #38
Soulreape
Console ports Arkham Asylum and Just Cause 2 aren't exactly great benchmarks, considering this costs almost 4 times as much as an Xbox. Stick something like Crysis in it and see how it runs at 1080p on High Settings.

Its quiet because its not really powering anything worthwhile.

Its a micro ATX case, which means if you want to upgrade in the future you are going to have to buy new motherboard and PSU, or be very limited in your options. And the motherboard that is in it is awful.

If you have any kind of ability and want to upgrade at any point, build your own, seriously, this may look all shiny and cheap and thats exactly what it is, shiny and cheap like Argos diamonte rings.

And I dont know of any decent company that uses Fujitsu. Being a contractor I have been round a few companies.


You are missing the point it's £388 and a PC.To play the game at that res you just mentioned which is PC only so cannot be directly compared to a x360 or ps3, you would need a £300+ graphics card alone .The two games mentioned are perfect games for comparison ,you can play both at higher game settings and res than a 360 or a PS3.
#39
And, I would invite you to build the same machine with components for anywhere near the same price....

Its not the best machine, but its not as expensive as better either! Its a lot of bang for your buck.
#40
This is great value. The components may be a couple of years old but can still run modern games on high settings so that should give you an indication how overkill it is for your average user. Add-in the fact that it has a blu-ray reader, is less than £400 and quiet (according to someone else in this thread) and it's a great purchase.

To build the same system yourself you'd probably be looking at more than the cost of this (approximates):

cpu - £110
gpu - £70
ram - £40
motherboard - £30
hdd - £60
blu-ray - £50
case/psu - £20 *(wouldn't be good but probably on par with what you're getting here)

That doesn't include a keyboard/mouse, power cable or operating system.

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