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4-in-1 Component Cable (PS2, PS3, Xbox 360 and Wii) - £5.48 delivered @ BigPockets £1.99

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Saw this via the Dash and Grab thread, but it's a good price so thought I'd make a thread for it. Let's you connect any of the four consoles to your TV via component. (Supposedly you can connect more … Read More
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Saw this via the Dash and Grab thread, but it's a good price so thought I'd make a thread for it. Let's you connect any of the four consoles to your TV via component. (Supposedly you can connect more than once console at the same time, but you may experience problems.)

Official Wii component cable is around £20.
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#1
Voted hot, but let's not compare this price with the official one. A better comparison would be to compare it with the £2-ish price of the unofficial component price available from DealExtreme (which is fantastic, BTW).
#2
Never used Bigpockets before, are they a reputable company and what are there delivery times like

thanks
#3
this cable rocks! voted HOT :thumbsup:
#4
There's a lot of noise on screen when using these
#5
Totoriko
There's a lot of noise on screen when using these


Have you got the same cable as they sell here, maybe these are ok
#6
Totoriko
There's a lot of noise on screen when using these


Specifically this cable or component cables for the Wii in general?
#7
Sunni
Specifically this cable or component cables for the Wii in general?


You really want to use component output for the Wii if your tv supports it. You can then play games in 480P and they look *much* better, you lose all of the fuzziness and you realise how all the colours were pretty dull, washed out and muddy .

When I got my Wii I had to wait for a week before I got the cable and the picture using the supplied cable is horrible. Of course cable choice will make a difference and I'm using the £10 joytech cable (I think) so no idea if the cable offered in this thread is any good.

I do know from running xbmc on my xbox that choice of component cable makes a huge difference, the one I used to have introduced speckling on the display, in the end I purchased a monster cable and it made a huge difference again.
#8
Why do people go nuts for the component cable

your better off with a rgb scart its the full 576 lines then
and rgb is superior to ypbr as well

with the wii i mean
#9
component is only better than rgb if you make use of hd resolutions
#10
Shonk
component is only better than rgb if you make use of hd resolutions


Hence why you would want to use it. 480p isn't HD but ED (iirc) and offers a much better image than scart.
#11
Ive got an RGB scart lead and an unofficial component lead for my wii and there is very little difference. Both are loads better than the standard composite lead though.
#12
good hint - I just got a new sony bravia, I need to connect a non-hdmi xbox 360 and a gamecube/wii to it but I've only got one set of component input on my tv.

The 360 displays at 1080p and looks as good as my ps3 does running through hdmi - this will be very handy.

Anymore feedback from ppl who own this cable - and have got a similar setup to mine?
#13
Sandman`
Ive got an RGB scart lead and an unofficial component lead for my wii and there is very little difference. Both are loads better than the standard composite lead though.



make sure you set it to 576 with the rgb lead
#14
Darv
Hence why you would want to use it. 480p isn't HD but ED (iirc) and offers a much better image than scart.


a 720x568 rgb image blows away a component 720x480 image

remember rgb is a vga connection just low resolution

and as every 360 user knows vga is better than component at the same resolution
nevermind with more which pal rgb has
#15
Darv
Hence why you would want to use it. 480p isn't HD but ED (iirc) and offers a much better image than scart.


Does it really offer a much better image than scart? RGB carries the signal in 4 wires plus earths, component carries the signal in 3 wires plus earths. S-video carries the signal in 2 wires plus earths and composite carries the signal in one wire plus earth. I've never seen a component signal match the quality of VGA and VGA and RGB are the same just different resolutions and VGA has two sync connections. Also a de-intelaced 576i signal gives a resolution of 720x576 widescreen where as a 480p signal gives a resolution of 720x480. A good flat screen display should de-interlace 576i well. Under ideal conditions scart RGB should be superior to component. This was certainly true of CRT monitors where the RGB signal could be fed into the RGB guns of a CRT tube near enough directly without any extra processing. Component obviously requires much more processing to create an image than RGB on CRT displays.

I had a component cable for my gamecube but sold it as it was worth silly money and on comparing with a RGB scart cable the RGB scart cable gave a better picture. Don't believe the component hype check it out yourself. Sometimes component will win but sometimes RGB will win and you really have to test this yourself on the display equipment you have. Obviously with the wii component is probably the best choice as wii component cables are dirt cheap from dealextreme. The 480p is a bit of a red herring though as it may actually lead to a lower resolution than a de-interlaced 576i image.
#16
yep i have a samsung 40" lcd
and have tried both with the wii
and the rgb cable blows away the component cable
you have to make sure you set the wii to 720x576 50hrz and have the scart cable in
scart 1 of the tv

my brother inlaw didnt believe me he used a component cable on his
i took my rgb cable around and he was blown away
and went straight out and got a rgb cable

remember its not plug and play like a component cable though
you have to have it all setup correct




bonzobanana
Does it really offer a much better image than scart? RGB carries the signal in 4 wires plus earths, component carries the signal in 3 wires plus earths. S-video carries the signal in 2 wires plus earths and composite carries the signal in one wire plus earth. I've never seen a component signal match the quality of VGA and VGA and RGB are the same just different resolutions and VGA has two sync connections. Also a de-intelaced 576i signal gives a resolution of 720x576 widescreen where as a 480p signal gives a resolution of 720x480. A good flat screen display should de-interlace 576i well. Under ideal conditions scart RGB should be superior to component. This was certainly true of CRT monitors where the RGB signal could be fed into the RGB guns of a CRT tube near enough directly without any extra processing. Component obviously requires much more processing to create an image than RGB on CRT displays.

I had a component cable for my gamecube but sold it as it was worth silly money and on comparing with a RGB scart cable the RGB scart cable gave a better picture. Don't believe the component hype check it out yourself. Sometimes component will win but sometimes RGB will win and you really have to test this yourself on the display equipment you have. Obviously with the wii component is probably the best choice as wii component cables are dirt cheap from dealextreme. The 480p is a bit of a red herring though as it may actually lead to a lower resolution than a de-interlaced 576i image.
#17
Have to disagree with the RGB lovers (Sorry!). I've got a Wii, PS2 and Xbox 1 connected via Component, and all look better on my LCD than using the RGB cables they replaced. The chief reason is progressive scan. Images just look more "solid" when progressive scan is enabled. I'm not going to argue about RGB vs YCbCr (as I don't know enough about the pros and cons), but I can instantly tell a progressive scan image on an LCD because the quality is just so much higher.

My 2 cents........
#18
Yes the progressive picture capabilities of the component cables mean its the best choice. Scart is good, but component should be first choice.

As for RGB scart showing a higher resolution, I don't think it does, scart is only 480i on the Wii is it not?

Depends upon your TV and its size as to whether you will notice any difference tbh.

Also, not every Wii game runs in 480p, therefore there will be cases when both scart and component both run in the same 480i resolution, explaining why there is no difference.
#19
Scart on Wii can do either 480i or 576i iirc. But the extra 96 lines arent worth it imo.
#20
thedo
Scart on Wii can do either 480i or 576i iirc. But the extra 96 lines arent worth it imo.


I would assume its just upscaling then as the games are 480i or 480p.
#21
I'd guess not in most cases.

The advantage of 3D graphics is that they are essentially resolution independant. It's the same reason that PC games work from 640x480 to 1920x1200. The graphics hardware simply is told what the output resolution is and then plots the polygons to that resolution. This is also how the N64 emulator on the Wii works so well - the games for the N64 were typically very low res, but are displayed on the selected format on the Wii (480i or 576i) because the emulator just plots to the higher res. Sprite games dont work so well this way, as sprites *are* resolution dependant and so you typically have a 1:1 pixel mapping which doesnt really work so well when you change the size/shape of the pixels.

I'm not entirely sure why they included 480i in the PAL Wii - I can't imagine anyone saying I'd like interlaced content at a lower resolution. I mean Progressive scan 480 vs Interlaced 576 each has pro's and cons, but 480i when 576i is available?

(Note: I'm at work atm, so can;t verify all the details of the Wii output - ie maybe 576is is only available for 4:3 screens? I dont know and so I'm recalling from memory the setup screens - so don't shoot me if things like this crop up :))
#22
Actually, a quick lookup of 480i on Wii reminds me why you might want it - it runs at 60hz ve 50hz of 576i.

Damn monday mornings........
#23
Shonk
Why do people go nuts for the component cable

Because it gives the best possible image quality from the Wii.
Shonk
your better off with a rgb scart its the full 576 lines then

Incorrect. The RGB SCART signal is interlaced - half the information has been lost, and must be reconstructed by your telly. This is a lossy process !
Shonk
and rgb is superior to ypbr as well

Incorrect - Component is simply a losslessly compressed RGB signal. Once the lossless decompression has occured inside your telly, then they offer identical image quality.
In this case though, the Component offers much higher image quality, because it's carrying a Progressive stream. The RGB signal you refer to, is interlaced (ie, half the information has been lost !!).
Shonk
component is only better than rgb if you make use of hd resolutions

Incorrect - Component and RGB are identical, given the same resolution.
Shonk
a 720x568 rgb image blows away a component 720x480 image

Again, this is wrong. The RGB image is interlaced - the Component image is progressive.
Shonk
remember rgb is a vga connection just low resolution

Wrong. The RGB is an interlaced VGA connection.
Component is actually much closer to VGA (read, identical) once it's been decompressed.
Shonk

and as every 360 user knows vga is better than component at the same resolution
nevermind with more which pal rgb has

Again, you're wrong. VGA and Component should both offer identical image quality, given a good display and good cabling. If you can see differences, then they're down to your equipment, not the signals !
bonzobanana
Does it really offer a much better image than scart?

Yes. It's a progressive image, and the RGB SCART is an interlaced image. Your television can't perfectly recreacte the original signal when it deinterlaces the image - it's a lossy process.

bonzobanana
A good flat screen display should de-interlace 576i well
Where "well" is the operative word. It's not perfect ! The Component and VGA inputs need no such lossy process applied, given a progressive source.

Shonk
yep i have a samsung 40" lcd
and have tried both with the wii
and the rgb cable blows away the component cable

Which simply means your telly is doing a bad job of processing it's Component input ! It's entirely down to your choice of equipment, not your choice of video signals !
#24
Dont get me wrong if the wii did 576p i would use it as progressive is nice
but the loss of so many pixels isnt made up by progressive


Lets look at this another way

720x480 = 345600 Pixels
720x576 = 414720 Pixels
1280x720 = 921600 Pixels
1920x1080 =2073600 Pixels

so 720x576 is 120% of the resolution of 720x480
#25
Shonk
Dont get me wrong if the wii did 576p i would use it as progressive is nice
but the loss of so many pixels isnt made up by progressive


Lets look at this another way

720x480 = 345600 Pixels
720x576 = 414720 Pixels
1280x720 = 921600 Pixels
1920x1080 =2073600 Pixels

so 720x576 is 120% of the resolution of 720x480


But the games only run at a maximum of 854 * 480. The games are widescreen btw so its 854 rather than 720.

Your not loosing any pixels by running at 480p. The only thing your loosing are the pixels that the Wii has created in order to run at 576i.
banned#26
Rather than all this talking about lines has anyone actually tried to get the link to work??
#27
Does any know the answer to my question?
I have upscaling dvd player with both scart and hdmi outputs.
I have a "HDMI" ready tv that DOES NOT have an hdmi socket.
Can I use this cable, and will it be worth bothering with?
Many Thanks
Paul;-)
#28
1stly, unless your DVD Player is one of the listed consoles, then you're probably out of luck with this cable. Even if it is one of those consoles (Excluding the Wii which doesnt play DVD, and the PS2 which only plays back SD output), you still cant get HD output as neither the PS3 or the 360 allow DVD upscaling over component. For 360 you need either VGA or HDMI and for PS3 it's HDMI only.

Now I assume that you're upscaling DVD player ISNT one of those consoles, so you can't use the cable at all. If your TV has DVI then try using a HDMI to DVI converter (I beleive there was a Curry's deal on here last week for one) to get your DVDs showing in a nice upscaled fashion.

N
#29
thedo
1stly, unless your DVD Player is one of the listed consoles, then you're probably out of luck with this cable. Even if it is one of those consoles (Excluding the Wii which doesnt play DVD, and the PS2 which only plays back SD output), you still cant get HD output as neither the PS3 or the 360 allow DVD upscaling over component. For 360 you need either VGA or HDMI and for PS3 it's HDMI only.

Now I assume that you're upscaling DVD player ISNT one of those consoles, so you can't use the cable at all. If your TV has DVI then try using a HDMI to DVI converter (I beleive there was a Curry's deal on here last week for one) to get your DVDs showing in a nice upscaled fashion.

N


Hi Thanks for the info but I understand that DVI does not support audio? If so how do I deal with that?
Paul
:whistling:
#30
pwbaines
Hi Thanks for the info but I understand that DVI does not support audio? If so how do I deal with that?
Paul
:whistling:


Some TVs also have an audio jack input to receive sound from your PC's headphones output.

So, based on what has been said before, does that mean that there is no difference between a vga and component input? If I watch the same media file, one from PC >> vga, and another from console >> component, it will look the same?

Also, what about the cable itself? Anyone received it yet? Any opinions. I am still awiting mine.
banned#31
pwbaines;2275791
I have a "HDMI" ready tv that DOES NOT have an hdmi socket.


LOL - how can it be an HDMI ready TV if it doesnt have a HDMI input?
#32
csiman
LOL - how can it be an HDMI ready TV if it doesnt have a HDMI input?


Obviously he meant HD Ready.

It must be an old set, many non HDMI sets were marked up as HD ready incorrectly a few years back, no doubt it was mis-sold to him as HD ready when it wasn't, because it didnt have a HDMI socket.

The component ports may be able to accept HD signals, but thats only possible if his kit will output HD over component.
#33
Broadsword
It must be an old set, many non HDMI sets were marked up as HD ready incorrectly a few years back, no doubt it was mis-sold to him as HD ready when it wasn't, because it didnt have a HDMI socket.

That's not quite true - you forgot about DVI :)
All HDReady sets have to have an HDCP-capable digital input ... but this can be a DVI instead of an HDMI (and obviously a simple adaptor will convert between the two).

pwbaines, if your set really is marked as "HD Ready" with the logo, then it must have a DVI socket - you can buy an adaptor for a couple of quid, to convert that into HDMI (with the provision that DVI doesn't handle sound, so you'll need to connect your source to a seperate amp and speakers).
#34
The price now seems to be £4.99 + £3.49 postage = £8.48, so I guess this one has expired.
#35
Broadsword
But the games only run at a maximum of 854 * 480. The games are widescreen btw so its 854 rather than 720.

Your not loosing any pixels by running at 480p. The only thing your loosing are the pixels that the Wii has created in order to run at 576i.


Not arguing but what sort of widescreen is 854x480? Obviously 720x480 is a widescreen format and thats what ntsc widescreen dvds are stored at. The 4:3 aspect is 640x480. I think you are confusing the display hardware resolution with the console hardware resolution which is lower. Basically televisions scale a 720 signal upto fit a 854 resolution to give the correct aspect ratio. I don't think the actual signal sent from the wii is 854. It certainly isn't from a dvd player.

I also disagree about component being better. Generally I find RGB scart and VGA contrast to be better as a general rule but realise the real proof is in the eating and different combinations of hardware give different results. Obviously a de-interlaced signal is a progressive signal and plasmas and LCDs generally have to de-interlace anyway so you simply can't watch an actual interlace wii signal on most flat screen displays anyway as they can't natively show an interlace picture. Its either de-interlaced in the wii or the display but something has to do it. I do realise some plasmas with alis panels can show an actual interlace display although its not quite like a CRT interlace display. The reality is most flat screen televisions are progressive and so a 576i signal is displayed as 576P.

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