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Wanna buy 5TB of storage?


Deal is for FIVE drives:

1TB Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3,
SATA 3Gb/s, 7200rpm,
32MB Cache, 8.9 ms, NCQ, OEM

£213 (£42 each) - saving around £30


Maybe an unusual deal, but I was buying a load of 1TB drives anyway...
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#1
cheap as chips for a RAID6 array!
#2
Excellent deal. I was tempted but decided that I have got enough already . As in I already have 3 1tb drives spare.
#3
Seriously tempted to fill my server now.
#4
just bought two on their last deal. Good price per unit, but daft deal.. after all, not many want to buy 5 drives for a single machine in one hit.. 4 I could understand - just

what will be next - 8, 10, 20 in one deal
#5
dontasciime
Excellent deal. I was tempted but decided that I have got enough already . As in I already have 3 1tb drives spare.


hi u interested in selling any of these if so how much..? how old are they.? thx
#6
I think I'd be scared of them all failing around the same time if I put them in a home server, but still a great deal!
#7
Great Deal, I have a few mates who are after a drive or two so we'll split the cost.
#8
Amazing deal. I just wish my NAS array had five bays!
#9
Andy247
Seriously tempted to fill my server now.


You know it makes sense :thumbsup:
#10
Anyone know of an affordable and reliable 5-bay NAS box?
#11
mrbill
Anyone know of an affordable and reliable 5-bay NAS box?


You could build your own Linux/OpenSolaris box. Just get a reasonable PC type chassis. I've got an HP ML360 (or something like that, was posted here about a year ago for about 100quid)
OpenSolaris and ZFS. The thing just sits in the garage and apart from the garage power tripping out, it hasn't been off. I've had a few hundred days of uptime.
It's a bit thirsty on power, but comparing the cost of buying a separate server and NAS with the cost of the extra electric, it's still cheaper.
Of course if you don't want a server to handle email/web serving/caching/security then it's probably overkill...

5 new SATAs would fit nicely, if only I had the spare cash...
#12
Yeah, that is an option - but i'm really tired of DIY stuff - i'm getting too old for that :-) I'd much rather buy a box which does it all for me - nice GUI interface, etc. Are there any 4 or 5 bay NAS devices which don't cost silly money - and which are reliable?
#13
1.5tb for £60

wouldnt this be a better deal if you wanted that sort of capacity. 1.5tb x 4 (to fit in 4x nas) 6TB for 240

or 1.5tb x3 4.5TB for £180???
#14
grommachine
1.5tb for £60

wouldnt this be a better deal if you wanted that sort of capacity. 1.5tb x 4 (to fit in 4x nas) 6TB for 240

or 1.5tb x3 4.5TB for £180???


Yes, you get 2 Tb more for £25 more cash... and most people would find RAID5 split across 4 disks more than enough .. mind you I hate to think how long the rebuild/reverify times are... it takes 2-3 hours on my 1.5tb array... I'd say make sure you have a decent UPS that will do a controlled shutdown when it's about to run out of power..
#15
Total price is £222.05 for me, unless theres a free delivery code available you need to update your price
#16
MR1123
Total price is £222.05 for me, unless theres a free delivery code available you need to update your price


Free delivery if posted enough on avforums

edit: and another forum i can't recall - hexus?
#17
Yes, hexus :)
#18
piginabox
Free delivery if posted enough on avforums

edit: and another forum i can't recall - hexus?


aye: http://forums.hexus.net
:thumbsup:
#19
03bintls
I think I'd be scared of them all failing around the same time if I put them in a home server, but still a great deal!


Me too.

Great deal, but if these are a faulty batch or were subjected to the same 'problems' (e.g. a careless courier guy) then the chances of them all failing at the same time are relatively high. Not what you want in a RAID setup.....
#20
daveeeee
hi u interested in selling any of these if so how much..? how old are they.? thx


(They are all brand new (never used) but Nope, I never sell anything. Anyways you can get them cheaper than I paid for mine with the above deal at Scan or £48.15 for a single drive at Scan (with free del from hexus fourm)or £49.99 delivered at Ebuyer.
#21
max_lan
You could build your own Linux/OpenSolaris box. Just get a reasonable PC type chassis. I've got an HP ML360 (or something like that, was posted here about a year ago for about 100quid)
OpenSolaris and ZFS. The thing just sits in the garage and apart from the garage power tripping out, it hasn't been off. I've had a few hundred days of uptime.
It's a bit thirsty on power, but comparing the cost of buying a separate server and NAS with the cost of the extra electric, it's still cheaper.
Of course if you don't want a server to handle email/web serving/caching/security then it's probably overkill...

5 new SATAs would fit nicely, if only I had the spare cash...


I personally would go for an Atom machine £50 from bigoffers? and Amahi.org for the software (based on fedora 12)

just IMO :)
#22
There's power consumption to consider with these as well - less bigger discs may be a better choice...
#23
i dont think this is a good deal, its odd for anyone to want this much memory altogether, and if you did itd be cheaper to get bigger memory modules rather than 5 seperate ones.
#24
gordon999
i dont think this is a good deal, its odd for anyone to want this much memory altogether, and if you did itd be cheaper to get bigger memory modules rather than 5 seperate ones.


Just to clarify these are hard disks, not memory modules. Though I agree 100% with your sentiment - I cant believe many people are going to buy 5 x 1TB hard disks, in a single hit.
#25
sunama
Just to clarify these are hard disks, not memory modules. Though I agree 100% with your sentiment - I cant believe many people are going to buy 5 x 1TB hard disks, in a single hit.


I would . I still might 5tb is nothing now.
#26
themanwithapc
Me too.

Great deal, but if these are a faulty batch or were subjected to the same 'problems' (e.g. a careless courier guy) then the chances of them all failing at the same time are relatively high. Not what you want in a RAID setup.....


I'm sorry, but this is absolute nonsense. The chances of a hard drive failing in the first year of use are very slim, but let's say 1 in 20 fail (it is definitely less than this). So, the chance of a drive failing in a specific month is 1/20 x 1/12 = 1/240. So, unlikely.

Now, the chance of ALL 5 drives failing in the same month is:

1/240 x 1/240 x 1/240 x 1/240 x 1/240 = 1 in 796,262,400,000

I wouldn't call that relatively high myself. If you're using these in a RAID config with suitable redundancy then you're looking at a very high level of redundancy and thus reliability. There is as close to zero chance of data loss as you can get.
#27
Rustyk1
Now, the chance of ALL 5 drives failing in the same month is:

1/240 x 1/240 x 1/240 x 1/240 x 1/240 = 1 in 796,262,400,000

I wouldn't call that relatively high myself. If you're using these in a RAID config with suitable redundancy then you're looking at a very high level of redundancy and thus reliability. There is as close to zero chance of data loss as you can get.


That's a rather optimistic outlook. Please factor in power spikes, local power anomolies on the mains (w/ no UPS) or in the enclosure and, more importantly, the chance that all drives come from the same bad batch. Bad batches of drives seem to be quite common to me. I'm sure there will be a few people who made an array with only the old Deskstar 75GXP range, and I think I recall reading some reports of high failure rates for (I think) an enterprise Seagate drive.
#28
Rustyk1
I'm sorry, but this is absolute nonsense. The chances of a hard drive failing in the first year of use are very slim, but let's say 1 in 20 fail (it is definitely less than this). So, the chance of a drive failing in a specific month is 1/20 x 1/12 = 1/240. So, unlikely.

Now, the chance of ALL 5 drives failing in the same month is:

1/240 x 1/240 x 1/240 x 1/240 x 1/240 = 1 in 796,262,400,000

I wouldn't call that relatively high myself. If you're using these in a RAID config with suitable redundancy then you're looking at a very high level of redundancy and thus reliability. There is as close to zero chance of data loss as you can get.


No, absolute nonsense is the drivel you've posted above :roll:

Did you even bother to read what I had written? What if you had a bad batch (Clicky) that was far more likely to fail? In that article a figure of 30-40% has been quoted, so comparing that to the numbers you pulled out of the air, the likelihood of 5% has well and truly been exceeded. Yes the likelihood of all 5 going up in smoke at the same time is lower than the figure quoted, but it is definitely higher than a 'normal' drive.

You seem like the kind of guy who is happy to take a chance with his data. That's fine, but please don't post your opinions and then try to pass them off as fact.
#29
I lol at this site sometimes...

Lets buy 4 different make and model drives in separate deliveries for a raid array,
just so the yare (fractionally) less likely to fail at the same time ? :roll:

BTW raid is not backup, nor a substitute for it. :)
#30
themanwithapc
No, absolute nonsense is the drivel you've posted above :roll:

Did you even bother to read what I had written? What if you had a bad batch (Clicky) that was far more likely to fail? In that article a figure of 30-40% has been quoted, so comparing that to the numbers you pulled out of the air, the likelihood of 5% has well and truly been exceeded. Yes the likelihood of all 5 going up in smoke at the same time is lower than the figure quoted, but it is definitely higher than a 'normal' drive.

You seem like the kind of guy who is happy to take a chance with his data. That's fine, but please don't post your opinions and then try to pass them off as fact.


I picked those figures out of the air as a VERY prudent estimate of AVERAGE failure rates. I've probably owned around 40 different hard drives in the last 20 years and never had one fail, ever.

I will adjust the estimate for your "bad batches", again being prudent. 1 in 2 drives fail in the first year. The chance of a drive failing in a particular month is 1 in 24. Chance of all drives failing in the same month is thus:
1/24 x 1/24 x 1/24 x 1/24 x 1/24 = 1 in 7,962,624

That's not very likely. As I said before, if you're using these in a redundancy set up they will be fine. Even if they are a bad batch. Obviously note that my assumptions are that you will replace a faulty drive within the month of failure. I think that's reasonable, I would replace within a week, meaning the probabilities get slashed again.

I don't like to take a chance with my data. I have online and separate hard drives as backup. Taking a chance with your data would be relying on one storage solution alone. RAID isn't meant as a backup alternative, it's meant as a method of storage for servers to avoid down time and improve access speed. These will be perfect for this.
#31
mikerr
I lol at this site sometimes...

Lets buy 4 different make and model drives in separate deliveries for a raid array,
just so the yare (fractionally) less likely to fail at the same time ? :roll:

BTW raid is not backup, nor a substitute for it. :)


Rustyk1
I picked those figures out of the air as a VERY prudent estimate of AVERAGE failure rates. I've probably owned around 40 different hard drives in the last 20 years and never had one fail, ever.

I will adjust the estimate for your "bad batches", again being prudent. 1 in 2 drives fail in the first year. The chance of a drive failing in a particular month is 1 in 24. Chance of all drives failing in the same month is thus:
1/24 x 1/24 x 1/24 x 1/24 x 1/24 = 1 in 7,962,624

That's not very likely. As I said before, if you're using these in a redundancy set up they will be fine. Even if they are a bad batch. Obviously note that my assumptions are that you will replace a faulty drive within the month of failure. I think that's reasonable, I would replace within a week, meaning the probabilities get slashed again.

I don't like to take a chance with my data. I have online and separate hard drives as backup. Taking a chance with your data would be relying on one storage solution alone. RAID isn't meant as a backup alternative, it's meant as a method of storage for servers to avoid down time and improve access speed. These will be perfect for this.


"I've had a xbox 360 from launch and not had the RROD. Therefore, I will say the likelihood of a unit failing is very, very low. Probably around 0.5%"

I can't even be bothered to explain so I'll just say this: your data, your choice :thumbsup:

I personally wouldn't be using this, but then again I've got numerous off site backups along with cloud storage of particularly critical files.
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That's a hell of a lot of porn.
#33
themanwithapc
"I've had a xbox 360 from launch and not had the RROD. Therefore, I will say the likelihood of a unit failing is very, very low. Probably around 0.5%"

I can't even be bothered to explain so I'll just say this: your data, your choice :thumbsup:

I personally wouldn't be using this, but then again I've got numerous off site backups along with cloud storage of particularly critical files.


It seems you can't admit when you're wrong. I took your highly pessimistic failure rates and still proved the chance of all failing at once is less than one in 7 million.

I'm glad you have other forms of data backup but "numerous" off site backups as well as cloud backup is probably overkill.
#34
dontasciime
(They are all brand new (never used) but Nope, I never sell anything. Anyways you can get them cheaper than I paid for mine with the above deal at Scan or £48.15 for a single drive at Scan (with free del from hexus fourm)or £49.99 delivered at Ebuyer.


sorry but dont see the point of mentioning it then...??? You said you had them spare then say u never sell anythin.?
#35
daveeeee
sorry but dont see the point of mentioning it then...??? You said you had them spare then say u never sell anythin.?


Yes and if you read you will see I said I said I was tempted by the deal to buy another 5 but I already had 3 spare. :lol . If you're after some cheap drives then you are going to have to part with the going rate.

dontasciime
Excellent deal. I was tempted but decided that I have got enough already . As in I already have 3 1tb drives spare.


I don't answer to you but Just so as you know. If ever I decided I did want to sell something I would use the FS/T sub forum
#36
dontasciime

I don't answer to you but Just so as you know. If ever I decided I did want to sell something I would use the FS/T sub forum


I beg to differ. I think you do answer to him, as was shown by your reply....:-D

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