£554 (with Quidco) Sony VAIO Core 2 Duo T8100 - RAM 3 GB - HDD 250 GB - 8400M GT - WLAN : 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft) - Vista Home Premium - 15.4" - HotUKDeals
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#1
excellent machine, **** company
#2
I've never had a problem.
#3
markforster;2031194
I've never had a problem.


never French manuals and no English ones? never euro plug and not UK? never had to send anything back and pay postage to France and never be refunded the postage? never returned something and only got partial refund (e.g. £105 instead of £150)? you're very lucky then...
#5
id never buy anything off therm again
especially not something that pricey
#6
Azureus;2031394


I've always found their reviews unreliable. I think this one is more conclusive, even though it a slightly different specs.
1 Like #7
To address all the points above. I simply meant i had not experienced it, the problem with buying from abroad are those things mentioned, its a choice you have to weigh up against price advantage. :-) I think this laptop is available with a few other vendors.

in response to "Not a good machine", that then references a review that gives a rating of 70%. I think the key point to note there is the €1,100 price tag ( £859) associated with the machine. With the machine priced at 300 less than this in this deal, I would suggest its a matter of examining trade-offs.

In response to kemot1984 quoting another review, I would suggest that the laptop in that review is a completely different machine in the same shell, as it only has 1GB RAM, and a 1.5GHz previous generation CPU among other large differences. With the new processor being a lot more energy efficient, this will affect heat, battery, and the specs will obviously affect performance. The screen review should stand true. Connectivity is also skewed as this version has the newer draft n standard.

I certainly would have found this deal useful at least as a benchmark while i was looking for a ~£500 laptop recently. I would certainly like to see a deal with equal/higher specs, for less, especially from a recognisable brand like Sony (and I mean that, I''ll buy it!)
#8
markforster;2031579
To address all the points above. I simply meant i had not experienced it, the problem with buying from abroad are those things mentioned, its a choice you have to weigh up against price advantage. :-) I think this laptop is available with a few other vendors.

in response to "Not a good machine", that then references a review that gives a rating of 70%. I think the key point to note there is the €1,100 price tag ( £859) associated with the machine. With the machine priced at 300 less than this in this deal, I would suggest its a matter of examining trade-offs.

In response to kemot1984 quoting another review, I would suggest that the laptop in that review is a completely different machine in the same shell, as it only has 1GB RAM, and a 1.5GHz previous generation CPU among other large differences. With the new processor being a lot more energy efficient, this will affect heat, battery, and the specs will obviously affect performance. The screen review should stand true. Connectivity is also skewed as this version has the newer draft n standard.

I certainly would have found this deal useful at least as a benchmark while i was looking for a ~£500 laptop recently. I would certainly like to see a deal with equal/higher specs, for less, especially from a recognisable brand like Sony (and I mean that, I''ll buy it!)


Great comment, repped.
#9
Here is the same machine in a different colour @ £589 for those who wish to shop in the UK.

http://www.laskys.com/pcs_and_laptops/laptops_and_pdas/laptops/sony_vgn_nr21z_t_cek.html?cm_mmc=Pricegrabber-_-Pcs_And_Laptops-_-Laptops-_-437174_SONY_VGN-NR21Z%2FT.CEK&engine=pricegrabber&keyword=SONY+VGN-NR21Z%2FT.CEK

I have to accept I didn't look at the rated price of the last review. Here is a review of this machine with this spec saying not worth it @ £642

http://www.trustedreviews.com/notebooks/review/2008/04/01/Sony-VAIO-VGN-NR21Z-T-15-4in-Notebook/p3

That to me says this deal is pretty good at this price point.
#10
I've seen this machine in House of Fraser very nice.
banned#11
Can I use this computer for internet browsing, if so to what extent?
#12
Proximo;2033155
Can I use this computer for internet browsing, if so to what extent?
Are you joking?

Certainly a lot of machine for £554...
#13
Proximo
Can I use this computer for internet browsing, if so to what extent?



Of course, so long as you have an internet connection it will work. In fact it's well above the spec needed simply for internet browsing and email. This will handle most applications and most things you can throw at it.

Of course with laptops you are also paying (or not) for issues such as size, weight, strength, security, screen size and type, reliability, durability, keyboard, specification...
#14
Gotta say...i've used plenty of different laptop brands and I found that the vaios have always been the best - I've never had to go to their support besides downloading drivers from the website - and that's simple enough. But performance wise nothing comes close, especially when editing music - simple things like they use a better firewire adapter which makes it more compatible with pro sound cards and peripherals. And the x-black screens are some of the nicest I've ever used on a laptop. I've used a vaio with a slower specs on paper that still run more smoothly/quickly than a higher spec but cheaper alternative.

Sure, you pay a bit more, but in my experience I've found it to be worth it. I just wouldn't trust an alternative when it comes to my work.

N.B. Before all the abuse comes...this is just my opinion! :thumbsup:
#15
No bluetooth? Odd for a laptop of this price ..
#16
play.com are selling it for £599.99. Use the 5% voucher code and Quidco and it should come in at around £550

http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/3593592/Sony-Vaio-NR21-Z-S-Core-2-Duo-T8100-2-1GHz-3GB-250GB-15-4-Vista-Home-Premium-Laptop-Notebook/Product.html
#17
How do I get this price? I know the price shows with the Quidco money back, but 'Zen Engagement' at nearly 50 quid keeps adding to the order, with no facility to delete?

Thanks
#18
Proximo
Can I use this computer for internet browsing, if so to what extent?


PMSL, AH, FUNNY!
#19
jakenjo
PMSL, AH, FUNNY!


yeah i found that funny too!!
banned#20
me too. I find it even funnier when people give serious answers as well
banned#21
ranjadaganja
me too. I find it even funnier when people give serious answers as well


I thought it was pretty sweet :oops: :-D
#22
What's the normal or average price?
#23
Can this be down graded to XP pro?
#24
I'd personally avoid Sony computers unless you have access to a "clean" Windows install disc and know how to do a full reinstall without all the performance-obliterating bloatware they get paid to shovel onto their computers. Sony offer the worst out of the box experience I've ever had the displeasure to witness.

If you're comfortable with wiping the hard drive, re-installing your OS yourself (avoiding any restore discs Sony provide) and scouring the multitude of different Sony support sites trying to find support for the specific model of Vaio you've bought to find drivers for the weird proprietary hardware Sony tend to supply, then Vaios are usually fairly well built machines, if not, look elsewhere, and avoid Sony like the plague.

Having said that, all companies are guilty of this to some extent. Sony are by far the worst offenders though. Even Apple, who promote themselves as not including junk software with their computers, supply a trial of Microsoft Office with every Mac. If you're looking for a Windows laptop that's not preloaded with a pile of junk, Toshiba are one of the better options (last time I checked).
#25
Can I use this computer for internet browsing, if so to what extent?

You can reach as far as timbuktu, after that, you are on your own. ;)

OTH,
Vaios suck major posterior. Good luck finding drivers if you need to downgrade to XP or run linux.
#26
trenchfever
You can reach as far as timbuktu, after that, you are on your own. ;)


That isn't very good, when you want to email family in Ghana!:-D
#27
spratty;2033570
play.com are selling it for £599.99. Use the 5% voucher code and Quidco and it should come in at around £550


That's exactly what I did last week and it worked out at £547.19 inc VAT, free delivery and arrived the day after I ordered it. I did research online first then looked at my shortlist of laptops in shops to see them in the flesh. For me this vaio NR21Z was the best combination of style/performance/value - 3GB ram is just the right amount for Windows (non 64 bit.)

Contrary to that review which gives this laptop 70% and a result of "not recommended" I personally love case's textured styling and Sony's keyboard. The vaio FZ models I looked at had Blu-ray & HDMI but they cost a lot more and I personally don't need or want those features. Note: All except top-end of FZ range has the same keyboard and X-black screen as NR models. That reviewer must have been blind to not praise this screen - it's bloody lovely. 1280x800 is the native res and it's plenty.

The NR21Z has VGA and audio out so can be used to watch DVDs or other content off your hard-drive/network/internet on an external monitor or LCD telly via VGA > component (or DVI) if your screen does not have a VGA input. (Just because it's analogue does not mean it's pants compared to HDMI.)

The Asus and Dell which are similar spec and price (circa £550) I looked at were awful to look at and touch. The Dell's silver keyboard especially so. Many other laptops have built-in webcams but that didn't put me off because I already have one that I never use anyway. As I'm not a hardcore games player I was less bothered about the difference between 128MB and 256MB video memory and more interested in the things like noise (by the way it's very quiet) and quality of build, keyboard, screen etc. i.e. the stuff we as humans have to physically interact with.

Yes, Sony have put 'bloatware' on this laptop (and most of their computers I believe) but I just went to add/remove programs in control panel and removed it. I am trying to like Vista but at some point may give in and install XP instead. Battery lasted around 2.5 hours constant web-browsing, emails etc.

Longwinded way of saying this is not a bad laptop, it is great value. Just like buying anything for a lot of money do a bit of research yourself rather than assume reviewers know better than you :thumbsup:
#28
a sony laptop with out blu-ray? :thinking:
cold :-D
#29
Proximo;2033756
I thought it was pretty sweet :oops: :-D

Your American - I would of thought Sarcasm was outta your league :P
#30
Love the style of Sony...this looks pretty good value to me...but loads of respected reviewers complain about the unwanted and often unwarranted software on their products, even using add or remove programmes will leave traces throughout the registry etc.....
Voted Hot for the deal.
banned#31
Jakg
Your American - I would of thought Sarcasm was outta your league :P


uhh no I am not
#32
Jakg
Your American - I would of thought Sarcasm was outta your league :P

Abbreviation out of your league? :-)
#33
Jakg
Your American - I would of thought Sarcasm was outta your league :P

not to mention punctuation :-)
#34
Oh god look what I started!

*hides*
#35
Agent_Silver;2038190
Love the style of Sony...this looks pretty good value to me...but loads of respected reviewers complain about the unwanted and often unwarranted software on their products, even using add or remove programmes will leave traces throughout the registry etc.....
Voted Hot for the deal.


It is true it comes with load of stuff you will not want but I think the only way you will ever get a Windows computer that has a squeaky clean registry is if you install the OS yourself and never try new software, never install any updates etc.

Anyway Windows is already an inefficient mess so to me trying to keep registry clean etc. is like trying to put an elastoplast over a gaping wound :) These days hardware makes up for the OS's faults and in years gone past where I've spent hours optimising, defragging etc. now I just turn on and use my time for other things, like hotukdeals heh heh.
#36
loonyjetman
It is true it comes with load of stuff you will not want but I think the only way you will ever get a Windows computer that has a squeaky clean registry is if you install the OS yourself and never try new software, never install any updates etc.

Anyway Windows is already an inefficient mess so to me trying to keep registry clean etc. is like trying to put an elastoplast over a gaping wound :) These days hardware makes up for the OS's faults and in years gone past where I've spent hours optimising, defragging etc. now I just turn on and use my time for other things, like hotukdeals heh heh.


Its not the extra software that annoys, so much as the trial ware, that either you pay to carry on using, stops working or works in a restricted manner....Dell are just the same as are mesh, evesham etc, however, a lot of the smaller companies instal operating system and the rest is up to you....thank god for ccleaner and the like.
#37
Can this be used as a calculator ? :p
banned#38
nice machine in terms of specifications, available at a very good price with * insert spam here *
#39
Makro Cash n Carry Will have a deal on this laptop exact same spec n model except that the colour is brown instead.This deal starts from next wednesday (21st may) and it will be 449.99 + Vat which works out to about just under £530 pounds..Bargain Price for spec...Visit the makro website and download the current promotional leaflets for the offers starting on the 21st May..
#40
ive just been to my local makro and they have already set the price to 449.99 so if anyone wants one go check it out. i might go buy one tomorrow :D

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