60GB SSD Corsair Force Series Solid State Drive - Sandforce controller (TodayOnly) £86.94 @ Scan - HotUKDeals
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SSD prices seem to be tumbling down further. I was flamed last time for posting a relatively slow SSD deal, and they all said something about the Sandforce controller. Well, here it is, not a bad price for such a fast drive.

Did a quick Google and they are around £105 ish mark, so this seems a good deal.
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Some techncal details:

• Maximum sequential read speed 285MB/second
• Maximum sequential write speed 275 MB/second
• Random 4K write performance of 15,000 IOPS (F60, F120, F160)
• Latest generation Sandforce controller and MLC NAND flash for fast performance
• Internal SATA II connectivity
• TRIM support (O/S support required)
• No moving parts for increased durability and reliability and quieter operations over standard hard disk drives
• Decreased power usage for increased notebook or netbook battery life
• 2.5" form factor for your portable computer needs
• Included 2.5" to 3.5" bracket for installation on your desktop computer
• Three year warranty
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3 Likes #1
Good price.
1 Like #2
Nice price, heat added.
#3
wait for the larger capacity to fall or bite the bullet?
2 Likes #4
Companies like OCZ are ramping up their SSD performance, and intel are due to release their next gen SSD's, so prices are going to fall. However, there will allways be better/cheaper products on the way. If you want to spead up your system now, this would be a great upgrade, and even if the price falls by £20 over the next 3/4 months, at least you have had a faster computer for 3/4 months :)
1 Like #5
Damn, I would buy this if I didnt already own a 80GB Intel SSD.

SSD's give a HUGE boost to performance
#6
how slow/fast is this compared to eg crucial/kingston?
#7
djfluff
Companies like OCZ are ramping up their SSD performance, and intel are due to release their next gen SSD's, so prices are going to fall. However, there will allways be better/cheaper products on the way.


Gulp. I was finally going to pull the trigger on one of these (or the equivalent Vertex) for my birthday later this month. I believe this was £93 last week so a nice little saving, hopefully a little more will be shaved off soon :p
#8
balluji
how slow/fast is this compared to eg crucial/kingston?


Just incase someone else doesn't answer with a more informed answer... Obviously the brand doesn't determine speed, there are slower and faster models in each brand. This is one of the fastest Sata SSDs available now. I bought one a while ago after deciding it was the best mix of decent random speeds and sequential speeds. I believe it is still bettered by Intel for Random speeds but has impressive sequential speeds... which perhaps doesn't matter as much with this small size.
#9
djglenn1337
SSD's give a HUGE boost to performance


Hasn't really improved my pc's performance, in fact it's exactly the same speed really as most programs in Windows 7 wait for my secondary 'normal' hard drive, photoshop in particular likes to dump temp files on it even though I haven't specified a scratch disk. Booting up is actually slower because my motherboard sits there and waits for new drives in the bios for about 20 seconds when AHCI is enabled. I wish I never bought the stupid thing.
1 Like #10
I have to agree with djlenn1337 here.

An SSD was the biggest performance boost I have ever noticed on my system, Like every other nerd would say... even if the difference is a few seconds here and there, it does make all the difference!

montblanc
djglenn1337
SSD's give a HUGE boost to performance


Hasn't really improved my pc's performance, in fact it's exactly the same speed really as most programs in Windows 7 wait for my secondary 'normal' hard drive, photoshop in particular likes to dump temp files on it even though I haven't specified a scratch disk. Booting up is actually slower because my motherboard sits there and waits for new drives in the bios for about 20 seconds when AHCI is enabled. I wish I never bought the stupid thing.
2 Likes #11
Too expensive me thinks (for me that is!), I'll probably get one once the prices drops below around 500GB for £50-£100, (which is a long long time way - I know!)
1 Like #12
I put an 80Gb (intel x-25M) in my mediacentre ( I also use it for gaming), and just used the old HDD for storage. It made a huge difference to performance, and when i wasn't recording TV, no Hard drive noise :)
#13
montblanc
djglenn1337
SSD's give a HUGE boost to performance


Hasn't really improved my pc's performance, in fact it's exactly the same speed really as most programs in Windows 7 wait for my secondary 'normal' hard drive, photoshop in particular likes to dump temp files on it even though I haven't specified a scratch disk. Booting up is actually slower because my motherboard sits there and waits for new drives in the bios for about 20 seconds when AHCI is enabled. I wish I never bought the stupid thing.


Surely you could improve your PS performance by specifying the SSD as scratch? That's one of the most compelling arguments for buying an SSD. Only reason I've not upgraded my MacBook is that I need a lot of storage space - I don't fancy shelling out for a 500GB SSD :-/
3 Likes #14
montblanc
djglenn1337
SSD's give a HUGE boost to performance
Hasn't really improved my pc's performance, in fact it's exactly the same speed really as most programs in Windows 7 wait for my secondary 'normal' hard drive, photoshop in particular likes to dump temp files on it even though I haven't specified a scratch disk. Booting up is actually slower because my motherboard sits there and waits for new drives in the bios for about 20 seconds when AHCI is enabled. I wish I never bought the stupid thing.


You my friend need to follow this guide:

http://www.overclock.net/ssd/700470-tutorials-real-world-windows-7-ssd.html

few hours of pain, but results worth it in the end.
#15
djglenn1337
Damn, I would buy this if I didnt already own a 80GB Intel SSD.SSD's give a HUGE boost to performance

Initially made Win7 load faster, but never really made any difference to mine once loaded.
And after a couple of weeks, there's no difference whatsoever. Total waste of money.

Anyone want to buy mine? Bought for £90....its erm, dead dead fast and well worth the money, make me an offer.
#16
djfluff
I put an 80Gb (intel x-25M) in my mediacentre ( I also use it for gaming), and just used the old HDD for storage. It made a huge difference to performance, and when i wasn't recording TV, no Hard drive noise :)


djfluff, I am tempted to do the same and am presently on a pretty ancient mobo-cpu config. If you could let me know your media centre specs and the kind of performance boost you get on windows media centre, it would help me make up my mind on the upgrade options ?
#17
ourdave
djglenn1337
Damn, I would buy this if I didnt already own a 80GB Intel SSD.SSD's give a HUGE boost to performance


Initially made Win7 load faster, but never really made any difference to mine once loaded.
And after a couple of weeks, there's no difference whatsoever. Total waste of money.

Anyone want to buy mine? Bought for £90....its erm, dead dead fast and well worth the money, make me an offer.


I'm interested. How old is it ?
#18
ourdave
Anyone want to buy mine? Bought for £90....its erm, dead dead fast and well worth the money, make me an offer.


Is it this exact model? Feel free to drop me a PM :)
1 Like #19
Ranjanx
djfluff
I put an 80Gb (intel x-25M) in my mediacentre ( I also use it for gaming), and just used the old HDD for storage. It made a huge difference to performance, and when i wasn't recording TV, no Hard drive noise :)


djfluff, I am tempted to do the same and am presently on a pretty ancient mobo-cpu config. If you could let me know your media centre specs and the kind of performance boost you get on windows media centre, it would help me make up my mind on the upgrade options ?


My media centre is a AM2 Phenom X4 920 (running at 2.8Ghz), 4GB DDR2, 1xWD 640Gb drive for storage, 1x intel x-25M for OS & apps, an ATI 5850 for games & HDMI / Blu-Ray playback & Audio (overkill a bit.. but quiet when not gaming).
I found the SSD makes programs , even microsoft mediacentre start allmost instantly. Surfing the web is noticeably faster too, as when you go 'back' a page, it reads it from tmp/cache it's practically instant. When I open a Pictures / video folder, the thumbnails just appear, as opposed to waiting for them to be created..
Definatly gave me a nice performance boost. Worth reading a guide, as mentioned above, to get the best out of your SSD :)
#21


You have to use the link on the 'today only' page, otherwise it shows their standard price.
#22
djglenn1337
You my friend need to follow this guide:

http://www.overclock.net/ssd/700470-tutorials-real-world-windows-7-ssd.html

few hours of pain, but results worth it in the end.


Thank you, I'll give that a go.

gr00ved
Surely you could improve your PS performance by specifying the SSD as scratch? That's one of the most compelling arguments for buying an SSD. Only reason I've not upgraded my MacBook is that I need a lot of storage space - I don't fancy shelling out for a 500GB SSD :-/


If Photoshop is installed on the SSD, wouldn't putting a scratchdisk on the same drive be redundant? I don't know, that was my reasoning for not doing it.
#23
ourdave
djglenn1337
Damn, I would buy this if I didnt already own a 80GB Intel SSD.SSD's give a HUGE boost to performance


Initially made Win7 load faster, but never really made any difference to mine once loaded.
And after a couple of weeks, there's no difference whatsoever. Total waste of money.

Anyone want to buy mine? Bought for £90....its erm, dead dead fast and well worth the money, make me an offer.



What model is it?? kinda makes a difference
#24
This makes me cry, I literally ordered the OCZ Vertex 2E for 98 quid last night, i was happy paying the extra 5 quid over the Corsair as apparntely the firmware is a little better than the corsair but at 86 quid I would deff of gone for the Corsair :( . Great price, you need to go to today only and select it from there. Phoned up and its already been dispatched.. I got 7 days to return but then I have to pay for delivery back, guess I'll have to just stick with it.

These things are going to be £1 per gb within a couple of months I reckon, 86 quid though atm is superb price.

and balluji the kingston drives are slowwww .
1 Like #25
gr00ved
Only reason I've not upgraded my MacBook is that I need a lot of storage space - I don't fancy shelling out for a 500GB SSD :-/
If you have a Macbook Pro you can swap the DVD drive for a bay allowing you to stick another disk drive in. So you can have an SSD and a larger HDD.

gr00ved
If Photoshop is installed on the SSD, wouldn't putting a scratchdisk on the same drive be redundant? I don't know, that was my reasoning for not doing it.
Imagine two weaklings trying to do the atlas stones on World's Strongest Man. One weakling on his own has no chance. Two weaklings together may be able to heft the stones but only very slowly. If a properly strong dude comes along, he can do the lot on his own in under a minute. Pairing the strong dude up with a weakling and making him share the lifting of each stone with that weakling would just slow him down.

Edited By: alasrati on Nov 01, 2010 19:42: atlas stones
#26
Finchster
This makes me cry, I literally ordered the OCZ Vertex 2E for 98 quid last night, i was happy paying the extra 5 quid over the Corsair as apparntely the firmware is a little better than the corsair but at 86 quid I would deff of gone for the Corsair :( . Great price, you need to go to today only and select it from there. Phoned up and its already been dispatched.. I got 7 days to return but then I have to pay for delivery back, guess I'll have to just stick with it.

These things are going to be £1 per gb within a couple of months I reckon, 86 quid though atm is superb price.

and balluji the kingston drives are slowwww .


The OCZ vertex 2 has been £93 for the last few weeks, so you missed that as well.
1 Like #27
hot,hot,hot, ssd's are the best thing since sliced bread, super fast drives these ssd's, i put ssd in my laptop and it's made my laptop super fast and the battery life is much better too, ssd's are worth every penny, this is cheap
banned#28
If you're not noticing an improvement when moving from a regular HDD to an SSD then there's definitely a problem. Any decent SSD (even some cheap ones like Intel X25-V) will give you much better OS and app load times.

The most important factor for a boot drive is random read/write.

For those having difficulty with a good drive check that TRIM support is present and enabled, and/or that the drive has good garbage collection.

Edited By: ITtech on Nov 01, 2010 22:17: more
banned#29
Check here for a good benchmark. Look at the Anandtech Storage Bench - Light Workload. Don't look at the "heavy" workload bench since that's more for servers.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/SSD/65

Notice how most companies produce drives at different performance points, so you can't go just by company name.
#30
NIce I brought the OCZ one at £93 tho
banned#31
The Vertex 2 is based on the same Sandforce SF-1200 chip, and thus performs almost identically. Both are great buys at the moment. Especially if you use an OS that doesn't support TRIM.
banned#32
rhodyate
hot,hot,hot, ssd's are the best thing since sliced bread, super fast drives these ssd's, i put ssd in my laptop and it's made my laptop super fast and the battery life is much better too, ssd's are worth every penny, this is cheap


So true. But a little caveat to buyers. Be sure you know what you're getting. There are still some rubbish SSDs floating around, though most should be gone by now.
#33
"prices seem to be tumbling down further"

"this is cheap"

They still seem damn expensive to me for their size.
1 Like #34
toaster
They still seem damn expensive to me for their size.
How many times? SSDs are about speed not capacity. For the last decade, if not longer, the performance bottleneck in computers has been disk I/O.

At £87 this is probably the biggest bang for buck upgrade for any PC.
#35
alasrati
toaster
They still seem damn expensive to me for their size.
How many times? SSDs are about speed not capacity. For the last decade, if not longer, the performance bottleneck in computers has been disk I/O.

At £87 this is probably the biggest bang for buck upgrade for any PC.

Fully appreciate the performance of ssd, but prices "tumbling" etc.....hardly.
banned 1 Like #36
Just a few months ago this money would get a 40GB Intel X25-V. And £160 for an £80 X25-M, which is now £110. Go back a year and this kind of performance cost £300+
#37
A question from the ignorant -

I have a 3/4 years old PC, lowish on RAM and someone stated this would be the best upgrade for the money (rough tranlation of what they said) - can pretty much any pc be upgraded with something like this?

Thanks, I realise I probably sound stupid, but know little on such things.
banned#38
toaster
alasrati
toaster
They still seem damn expensive to me for their size.
How many times? SSDs are about speed not capacity. For the last decade, if not longer, the performance bottleneck in computers has been disk I/O.

At £87 this is probably the biggest bang for buck upgrade for any PC.


Fully appreciate the performance of ssd, but prices "tumbling" etc.....hardly.


Currently SSDs and smartphones are doing what PCs did some years back. Performance is increasing incredibly rapidly and thus prices are forced down because newer better products are released.

In July last year the X25-M G2 was at the top of the charts (for consumer devices), now its near the bottom. But the G3 is due out soon.


Edited By: ITtech on Nov 01, 2010 23:34: oops
banned 1 Like #39
equalityforall
A question from the ignorant -

I have a 3/4 years old PC, lowish on RAM and someone stated this would be the best upgrade for the money (rough tranlation of what they said) - can pretty much any pc be upgraded with something like this?

Thanks, I realise I probably sound stupid, but know little on such things.


It depends how low you are on RAM, which OS you use, and CPU, etc. It's really down to where the bottleneck is. Also, what do you use it for?

The motherboard needs to support SATA-II, and you need to know or be able to copy or reinstall your OS. Ideally you should also know about 4k-aligned partitioning.

Edited By: ITtech on Nov 01, 2010 23:37: oops
#40
until more people start buying them they aren't going to drop massively!

if you dont notice the speed you are failing somewhere because there is a huge boost. to windows 7 (xp and vista wont be optimised for them so performance wont be as great)

as for the size, you are only installing programs onto these drives. 60gb is fine for windows 7, office, photoshop and still got lots of space left for other things, keep a regular hard drive for the data like movies, songs etc as they wont need to see any performance boost (how could they :P )

i tested photoshop on my samsung f3 1tb hdd and it loaded up on my system in about 12 seconds, uninstalled it, then installed it on my samsung 64GB mlc (OLD AS HELL NOW 90/70 read/write) and its 2 seconds. you may say who care its only seconds... well all these seconds add up. especially over the course of a year or 2. these are actually giving you back something you can't buy.......TIME

buy one now /hardsell over :P

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