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#1
i bought a 150W one from Halfords. It cost me either £29.99 or £34.99 so this is a bargain!

voted hot
#3
The more powerful the invertor the more powerfull your 12 volt battery has to be,i had standard battery on my car and my 300 watt inverter wouldnt power a 65 watt tv unless the car was running ..
#5


That may be so but the other one shows as expired even though it's not, so a new post is worthy imo.
#6
So its like a big battery?
#7
no, you have to connect it to a car battery and it gives you a 3 pin socket so you can plug stuff in to it and power it from the battery instead of the mains.
#8
I got 1 from Halfords,cost about £40,mines can be plugged in cigarette lighter socket and has been a god send on long journeys for my wee boy using his lap top, it's quite strange you can plug all number of household electricals into it,even a kettle if you wish. I think these are great, this 1 would not be any good for me,as I needed 1 that could be used inside car for obvious reasons,but this looks a good option at a good price for camping etc. nice find.:thumbsup:
#9
hotscot
.. this 1 would not be any good for me,as I needed 1 that could be used inside car...


This one can be used inside the car. Unless I'm missing something.
#10
SFletch;2452801
This one can be used inside the car. Unless I'm missing something.

I think the 1 posted needs to be attached to battery via crocodile clips, I think :? could be wrong?



But this 1 below with lower wattage ,which is fine to use for lappys etc inside car,as it has cigarette adapter,see piccy.

350 watt with 500 watt peak power.
Plugs directly into 12V car cigarette lighter socket.
Allows the use of domestic home appliances to be used outside.
Play stations, CD players, portable DVD, drills, tv, lap tops etc.
Also ideal for camping and caravans.
Power on the move
http://www.argos.co.uk/wcsstore/argos/images/101-7402216A69UC449512M.jpg
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/7402216/Trail/searchtext%3EINVERTER.htm
#11
Hmm.. just done a search on the 800w and I think it can be plugged straight into the lighter socket.

Can anyone confirm?
#12
So just to understand this piece of kit, you are saying it does not hold a charge it just allows you to use the cigarett lighter to power other devices. Is that right?

If so would that not drain the battery?
#13
BeerGoggles
So just to understand this piece of kit, you are saying it does not hold a charge it just allows you to use the cigarett lighter to power other devices. Is that right?

If so would that not drain the battery?


Yes, and possibly.
1 Like #14
A quick look at the previous thread will answer all the questions.

These higher power inverters cannot be plugged into the cigarette socket as they would draw too much current and fry either fuses or wiring. This one comes with clips to attach to the battery directly.

Car batteries are designed to deliver high current in short bursts. Use one of these for any length of time on your car battery without the car running and you will render your battery useless.

You would need to get a 'Leisure Battery' (Also called a marine battery) which is designed to deep drain and recharge for a number of cycles. These provide lower currents for a greater duration.

My solution - petrol generator to charge the leisure battery during the day then battery used at night to provide silent power.

You may well be able to plug a kettle in to one of these, but it will take a long time to boil and will knacker your car battery if you are switched off.
#15
BeerGoggles
So just to understand this piece of kit, you are saying it does not hold a charge it just allows you to use the cigarett lighter to power other devices. Is that right?

If so would that not drain the battery?


This is only an inverter - put 12volt in (Car Battery etc) and get 240v mains voltage out

It requires 12volts supply at all times to operate - it does not store power.

Depending on what you are running from it you may require a fairly beefy battery, which to operate continuously will obviously require to be charged.
#16
SFletch;2452901
Hmm.. just done a search on the 800w and I think it can be plugged straight into the lighter socket.

Can anyone confirm?

No it can't. It comes with crocodile clips to take the huge 95A it needs to draw at full load.
A cigarette lighter socket is usually fused at 15A - equivalent to 150W output (once you take the efficiency of an inverter into account)
#17
Jim N;2453106
This is only an inverter - put 12volt in (Car Battery etc) and get 240v mains voltage out

It requires 12volts supply at all times to operate - it does not store power.

Depending on what you are running from it you may require a fairly beefy battery, which to operate continuously will obviously require to be charged.

If you read the older thread advertising this item (link given earlier in this thread) you'll see the explanation that with most cars even with their engines running at full speed (e.g. 6000rpm) the alternator will not provide sufficient power to balance what this inverter is capable of pulling.
A typical sized car battery would last about 10 mins without charging.

As also suggested in the other thread, you would be strongly advised to use a specialised leasure/marine battery with this inverter if you plan to use it's capacity. (It'll still go flat unless you have a means of supplying 95A+ to charge it with)
#18
ScotBoy;2453100
...You may well be able to plug a kettle in to one of these, but it will take a long time to boil and will knacker your car battery if you are switched off.
A small travel kettle, perhaps.
This inverter is rated at 0.8kW continuous output.
An average kitchen kettle is rated at 2.2kW or even 3kW
#19
leighbeef;2449851
The more powerful the invertor the more powerfull your 12 volt battery has to be,i had standard battery on my car and my 300 watt inverter wouldnt power a 65 watt tv unless the car was running ..

Sound like you have a duff battery.
A 300w inverter should be capable of outputting 300w from a car battery.
Even this 800w inverter would output 800w - but only for about 10mins from a std car battery without charging.

The only thing you should be aware of is the output from most inverters, certainly the cheap ones as here, is a modified sinewave output. - that's usually not good for inductive loads, but makes little difference to resistive loads. Perhaps the tv is suffering from the non true sine wave out-put. Again, more deatils about this in the old thread on this inverter.
#20
SFletch
Hmm.. just done a search on the 800w and I think it can be plugged straight into the lighter socket.

Can anyone confirm?



No lighter socket attatchment with this one.
#21
Netto's latest leaflet came through our door today and they have a one with USB for £14.99 which is following specs:
12v DC - 1x24-V ac 50Hz
12v DC - 5V USB
150 Watt Continuous power
300 Watt Peak surge power

No idea if this is any good or Nationwide but I'm in Newcastle Upon Tyne.
#22
[SIZE="3"]It may be able to plug directly into the lighter socket BUT if you have something juicy on the end of the mains plug, say a 500watt travel kettle, you will be trying to draw 40 amps through your lighter socket and that would be a singularly bad idea as it would likely cook the car wiring. Fortunately, I think the lighter socket is fused for 15 amps. Personally, there is no way I would run anything with a load greater than 100 watts (8 amps) through the lighter socket. If I needed to run a higher load, then it would need to be a direct connection to the battery.

As has already been mentioned, an 800 watt inverter on full load is drawing over 65 amps the hazards to wiring and battery are large. These sorts of things need to be sold with a LARGE health warning attached as they are potentially VERY dangerous.[/SIZE]
#23
andy_sym;2453377
Netto's latest leaflet came through our door today and they have a one with USB for £14.99 which is following specs:
12v DC - 1x24-V ac 50Hz
12v DC - 5V USB
150 Watt Continuous power
300 Watt Peak surge power

No idea if this is any good or Nationwide but I'm in Newcastle Upon Tyne.

I posted details of the Netto deal earlier today :thumbsup:
http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209036
#24
I had a 150w inverter which was great for powering a lightbulb in our gazebo whilst camping and also charging a laptop or mobile phone.

I did however blow my car cigarette lighter electrics when I tried to power an airpump to pump up the inflatable bed that evening. An expensive mistake rectified at my car's next service.


I must admit, I thought I could plug anything into it that worked off 240v :whistling:
#25
Car battery is not designed to use with these type of power inverters. They are not good to give continuous power output, they are designed only to provide power for shorter period ( less than a minute).

To get continuous 800 w it will draw 67A and most of the car batteries are less than 60 AH. If you want to use this you need to buy tubular batteries.
#26
Maveli;2453792
...To get continuous 800 w it will draw 67A and most of the car batteries are less than 60 AH. ....

It's actually more than that because, according to the manufacturers instructions, it's only 70% efficient.
So for 800w output, it actually would draw 67A/0.7 = 95A
#27
If you check - you will see Argo DO NOT offer their own extended warranty on these.

Also the socket is interchangeable for each market they sell in - but the socket pops out revealing its wiring each time you take the plug out.

I bought one to replace a massively larger/heavier ex army one I had - but its going back.
#28
ibiza;2454140
If you check - you will see Argo DO NOT offer their own extended warranty on these...


Not that I would ever suggest anyone buy's one of these rip-off extended warranties, but argos will willingly flog you one for £4.99 to cover this item for 3 years
cat. no. 883/0791
#29
voted cold, tried one last week would not run hardly anything without tripping out. save your money and get a generator instead..............
#30
This is a good price no matter what people say.

Sure, this sort of power on most car batteries will drain them in no time. Also most alternators are only ~50-70amps so even with your car running you'll normally not stop your battery from going flat.

I'm okay as i've got a few leisure batteries in the boot so i can run a lot for quite a long time off of an inverter.

This is a good price though, it'll power so much more than the smaller ones. Just because people are using it for the wrong thing doesnt mean its not any good
#31

As that one had an expiry date in it automatically expired it, so this one is okay to leave as it's already received so many replies too.
#32
Premier
Not that I would ever suggest anyone buy's one of these rip-off extended warranties, but argos will willingly flog you one for £4.99 to cover this item for 3 years
cat. no. 883/0791


I don't think they do - as the warranty link is missing from both their invertors pages.

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/7402223/Trail/searchtext%3EINVERTOR.htm
#33
ibiza;2455662
I don't think they do - as the warranty link is missing from both their invertors pages.

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/7402223/Trail/searchtext%3EINVERTOR.htm

Try adding the cat. no. to your order :thumbsup:

Or if you go in-store, look for a copy of their 'End of catalogue sale' brochure, bottom right on page 39
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/1404/inverteradpo7.jpg
#34
handsomejackuk;2455872
...any way maplin have them at a similar price so not that a hot deal..........

Do you have a link, because the closest I can see is a 600w one for £69.99 at present, or a 1000w one for £79.99
600w inverter
1000w inverter
#36

That offer was 15months ago! :roll:

Why have you removed your last 3 posts?

Why has this inverter deal expired? (Edit: now been unexpired by a mod - thanks :))
#37
Bought this little gem over last weekend from Maplin when it was free dleivery. Only about 6inches long by 3x3 deep/ wide so nice and compact too.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=48723&&source=14&doy=4m7

its 300w but has cigarette lighter socket for upto 150w for convenience and the crocodile clips for direct connection to the battery over 150w upto 300w. Works an absolute treat for the money and costs £24 delivered in a couple of days or free delivery over £35. Definely recommend this one for the price as its best value around at the moment for the specification.

I looked at the Argos 800w one but most car batteries would be crippled by its power and complete overlkill for most sensible uses, unless you plan to pimp your car up with 40" plasmas and plan to carry a ton of batteries in your boot.

If you're still want more info on inverters look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverter_%28electrical%29
#38
Unspammed....
#39
garbage456;2460390
yes a 800w microwave or 700watt drill is really going to work in a 150watt inverter
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The inverter linked to is actually a 300w inverter - but the basic logic still holds. :)
Anyone who is wanting a 150w inverter can see a link to a cheaper option in post#29 of this thread.

Be aware that in the case of a microwave, the 800w microwave would typically be the 'cooking' power rather than the actual consumption. Refer to the back of the microwave or it's manufacturers specifications for details of input load, but typically this would be about 1200w+ so the 800w inverter wouldn't power that either.
#40
garbage456
yes a 800w microwave or 700watt drill is really going to work in a 150watt inverter
G


Muppet! :? Never sugested it would run an 800w microwaveand like Premier said its a 300w not 150w anyway which would be more than adequate for most people wanting to hook up small TV's or a laptop, games machine, chargers etc or something similar. Most people don't want to hook up a microwave in their cars, and if they did they'd have to have a beefy battery or multiple batteries anyway and stop at the side of the road to croc clip it directly to their battery!

Can't say I've ever seen anyone sat at the side of the road with their bonnet up and a microwave sat on the engine to heat up their Rustler (Microwaveable burger & bun thingy)! :whistling:

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