£99.99 AOC 21.5in AOC F22S+ 1920x1080 Piano Black @ CCLonline - HotUKDeals
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22" piano-black monitor offers great design and performance with an adjustable, single post stand and 21.5" viewing image size. It serves as a powerful monitor for business applications as well as video player. That's the cheapest full HD monitor in the UK and although it has a VGA port only, it should fit most purposes. Have a look at the stand as well!

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#1
tekheads = di*kheads
#2
Brown.Panther;8393171
tekheads = di*kheads


Never had a problem with them. Bought plenty of hard drives from them all came within delivery period and well packaged.

Why the hate?
#3
Looked a very good deal until I saw vga only. With my Ati 5770, flickering and black lines appear on my randomly. No problems when using a DVI cable.
#4
darkspark88
Looked a very good deal until I saw vga only. With my Ati 5770, flickering and black lines appear on my randomly. No problems when using a DVI cable.

is that due to the card you're using or the driver?

I'm on DVI but can't honestly say I'd notice the difference if someone switched my 'full hd' monitor to VGA.
#5
darkspark88
Looked a very good deal until I saw vga only. With my Ati 5770, flickering and black lines appear on my randomly. No problems when using a DVI cable.


It could be the VGA cable.
#6
RE: VGA/DVI. In my experience, at 1920x1080 with an old 7100GS card it was virtually indistinguishable with VGA and DVI (DVI slightly better). With a newer (but still 'old') 8400 DVI was significantly better but only at 1920x1080. But it's one of those cases where you only notice it when you go back to VGA. Personally, with the wisdom of hindsight, I don't think it's worth not having DVI unless the saving is significant. That said, it could be my crappy equipment.
#7
No, I've tried a few VGA cables, one that came with the monitor, and some Dell spares. Plus there is no noticable difference when using VGA to DVI apart from when the screen is displaying dark images and an auto screen refresh happens, the image is usually off centered for some reason. Additionally, DVI cables do not have the problem of requiring refreshing, as the image quality is always consistent.

With VGA, colour occasionally changes for no reason, and contrast and sharpness also sometimes blur. Particularly when switching between resolutions.
#8
darkspark88
No, I've tried a few VGA cables, one that came with the monitor, and some Dell spares. Plus there is no noticable difference when using VGA to DVI apart from when the screen is displaying dark images and an auto screen refresh happens, the image is usually off centered for some reason. Additionally, DVI cables do not have the problem of requiring refreshing, as the image quality is always consistent.

With VGA, colour occasionally changes for no reason, and contrast and sharpness also sometimes blur. Particularly when switching between resolutions.


The problem is caused by the RAMDAC on your graphics card or the A/D converter on the monitor or both. VGA, being an analogue signal requires conversion from digital to analogue (by the RAMDAC on the graphics card). This obviously degrades the signal. When the signal reaches the monitor, the degradation is enhanced further by the re-conversion from analoge to digital. This is why DVI and HDMI gives better picture because it is a direct digital to digital connection.

One person mentioned an off-centre picture with VGA. That is due to VGA signals having to be mapped "relative" to a matrix display rather than being "absolutely" mapped. Since analogue VGA has no idea of a matrix, it does not know where the origin of the display is (ie. position x = 0, position y = 0). Remember, VGA was designed for CRT screens. As it is off centre, the settings on the monitor allows for manual adjustment to move the display to a more central location and most monitors have auto adjustment to centralise the image.
#9
1920x1080 does not mean that it is HD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is why it doesn't advertise it as HD on the CCL site.

I have a dell monitor which I have had for years producing 1920x1080 but its not HD!

Look in to this properly before buying a very cheap standard monitor!
#10
ski_haggis
1920x1080 does not mean that it is HD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is why it doesn't advertise it as HD on the CCL site.

I have a dell monitor which I have had for years producing 1920x1080 but its not HD!

Look in to this properly before buying a very cheap standard monitor!


Usually, HD is referred to a resolution that is higher than standard definition (576 or 480 vertical pixels), hence this monitor can be described as HD. However, HD is loosely defined so it is subjective as to what is deemed to be HD.

What you may be referring to is the term "HD Ready" of which the specifications are not met by this monitor. HD Ready mandates that HDCP decoding is a requirement and since this monitor does not support HDCP decoding (which stands to reason, since there is no DVI or HDMI input) then it cannot be referred to HD Ready. You may also be referring to the term "Full HD" which is also a loose definition and is not industry ratified since a Full HD TV/Monitor does not necessarily meet HD Ready or HD Ready 1080P specifications.
#11
http://images.digitalmedianet.com/2009/Week_39/igufbcgp/story/aoc600.jpg

I couldn't figure out if I liked it from the stock images. Looks cool
#12
ski_haggis
1920x1080 does not mean that it is HD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is why it doesn't advertise it as HD on the CCL site.

I have a dell monitor which I have had for years producing 1920x1080 but its not HD!

Look in to this properly before buying a very cheap standard monitor!


Lol, yes it does! My Old 21" CRT from 10 years ago was 'HD'. HD refers to the resolution, whether it's a TV or monitor, and the standard res for TV or movie HD is 1280x720 or 1920x1080. Many monitors support greater than HD resolutions, my 30" Dell runs at 2560x1600.

As Elliot stated, this monitor will not be able to playback Blu Ray or other protected content, but will of course play any ripped or unprotected video in HD.

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