Acer Aspire 9813WKMI 20.1" Widescreen TFT T5500 Bluetooth Enabled Digital TV Tuner - £527.20 @ BargainCrazy (with Voucher) - HotUKDeals
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* Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo T5500 - 1.66GHz (x2), 667MHz FSB, 2MB L2 Cache
* RAM: 1024MB DDR2-667MHz
* Hard Drive: 160GB Serial ATA
* Screen: 20.1" Widescreen TFT with CrystalBrite Technology
* Optical Drive: DVDRW Drive
* Graphics: NVidia GeForce Go7600SE 256MB
* Wireless LAN: 802.11a/b/g - Call for advice on Wireless Networking
* Bluetooth: Bluetooth Enabled
* Operating System: Windows Vista Home Premium
* Windows Vista Compatible
* Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000
* Built-In 1.3 MegaPixel Camera
* Digital TV Tuner
* Flash Memory Card Reader (MMC, MS, MS-pro, SD, XD)
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#1
You should probably add you used a voucher to get that price.
#2
This machine is not for me at all:

Weak processor for the money, only 1gb RAM and it is not even 800mhz RAM, Small hard drive and a very middle of the road graphics card that does not support direct x 10 come on you can get cheap onboard machines that support direct x 10. and god only knows why you would want a laptop with 20" screen.

If you actually want a machine that has a 20" screen than the price is probably quite good for you but the hardware lets it down, lets face it you could buy this laptop http://www.ebuyer.com/product/148229/show_product_specifications?spectype=extended which out preforms this in just about every area and 20" monitor and still have money left over.
#3
Pretty poor spec for the money. There's much better value than this around, even in PC World!!
#4
OK CPU. Extremely decent graphics card, even if not Direct X 10. Needs an extra £10 spending on an extra 1GB RAM.
Incredible screen and Freeview digital TV. Plus bluetooth.

I defy anyone to find a better 19" or 20" laptop for anything under £900.

Is anyone home at number 8?

A 20" laptop is bought as an in house/about work portable. Extremely useful for some so this is an amazing buy.
#5
LadyEleanor
OK CPU. Extremely decent graphics card, even if not Direct X 10. Needs an extra £10 spending on an extra 1GB RAM.
Incredible screen and Freeview digital TV. Plus bluetooth.

I defy anyone to find a better 19" or 20" laptop for anything under £900.

Is anyone home at number 8?

A 20" laptop is bought as an in house/about work portable. Extremely useful for some so this is an amazing buy.


Sorry LadyEleanor, this may have been a decent machine (for those that think size is everything...) when it was released over a year ago, but today it does NOT represent good value for money:

1. The "Incredible screen"; big it may be, but having a native resolution of 1,680x1,050, it displays significantly less pixels than an average 17" display.

2. The CPU; 1.66MHz is the same speed as you would find in a bargain-bucket netbook costing around £179. It is old, slow and decidedly pants.

3. Your "Extremely decent graphics card" is over 2 years old (as fitted to my 2 year old Sony Vaio), uses 128MB of system RAM to boost it to 256MB and will not run any games that have been released in the last 12 months. If your retort is that you wouldn't play games, why go to the expense of buying ANY laptop with a dedicated graphics card?

4. Who in their right mind would spend £500 plus on a laptop, knowing that you would have to upgrade the RAM before you could do anything useful with it? By the way, if you fit the memory module yourself you will invalidate your Acer 12 month guarantee, so the real cost of throwing in an extra gig of RAM would be closer to £50 than the £10 you suggest.

5. In terms of future-proofing, the wireless card is only g rated, which is out of date before the laptop is delivered.

6. Woopy-do, it's got a TV tuner (that is NOT compatible with Windows Media Center by the way) that you can buy on a USB stick for £20 and share across all of your PCs.

Sorry LadyElenor, 'Big and Cheap' may push your buttons, but you're misleading a lot of people who my not know any better....
#6
Find a comparative 19" or 20" laptop. One suitable for presentations and as a home media centre.

And what would you rather have for graphics.
Newer slightly faster,possibly self exploding 8600 graphics.
Or the the very new Intel X4500 graphics?

I don't want this 'monstrosity' but I can see its uses in that it is lighter than a desktop with 20" screen.
#7
No8
Sorry LadyEleanor, this may have been a decent machine (for those that think size is everything...) when it was released over a year ago, but today it does NOT represent good value for money:

1. The "Incredible screen"; big it may be, but having a native resolution of 1,680x1,050, it displays significantly less pixels than an average 17" display.

2. The CPU; 1.66MHz is the same speed as you would find in a bargain-bucket netbook costing around £179. It is old, slow and decidedly pants.

3. Your "Extremely decent graphics card" is over 2 years old (as fitted to my 2 year old Sony Vaio), uses 128MB of system RAM to boost it to 256MB and will not run any games that have been released in the last 12 months. If your retort is that you wouldn't play games, why go to the expense of buying ANY laptop with a dedicated graphics card?

4. Who in their right mind would spend £500 plus on a laptop, knowing that you would have to upgrade the RAM before you could do anything useful with it? By the way, if you fit the memory module yourself you will invalidate your Acer 12 month guarantee, so the real cost of throwing in an extra gig of RAM would be closer to £50 than the £10 you suggest.

5. In terms of future-proofing, the wireless card is only g rated, which is out of date before the laptop is delivered.

6. Woopy-do, it's got a TV tuner (that is NOT compatible with Windows Media Center by the way) that you can buy on a USB stick for £20 and share across all of your PCs.

Sorry LadyElenor, 'Big and Cheap' may push your buttons, but you're misleading a lot of people who my not know any better....


Have to say i completly agree with you, this machine is way over priced for the spec. At the end of the day if you are buying a laptop with a 20" screen you are not going to be moving it about so why not just buy a desktop? you will get far more for you money or like i said previously buy a laptop with a much better spec for a lot less and buy yourself a 22" screen for £100 and still have some change left over, and for the people that say that is impratical becuase you can move the acer around if you want, well this machine weighs just short of 8kg and then you will have to pay out another £50 or £60 for a decent branded carry case, as i wouldnt put a laptop that weighs so much in a budget laptop bag.

buy a good 15" laptop and a nice 20" or 22" monitor and then you have the pratical laptop that you can actually move when you want to and a big screen when you need to use at your desk and then you have the best of both worlds and a laptop that a lot better specs than this
#8
LadyEleanor
Find a comparative 19" or 20" laptop. One suitable for presentations and as a home media centre.

And what would you rather have for graphics.
Newer slightly faster,possibly self exploding 8600 graphics.
Or the the very new Intel X4500 graphics?

I don't want this 'monstrosity' but I can see its uses in that it is lighter than a desktop with 20" screen.


http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/296920/medion-md96697-17-dual-core-laptop-/ + http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/282083/benq-21-5-wsmonitor-full-hd-129-65-/ then you have a better laptop and a better screen for less money and weighs less
#9
What a daft thread this has become.

So you never found one.
#10
LadyEleanor
What a daft thread this has become.

So you never found one.


care to explain? this acer is not designed to moved around, it is advertised as a desktop replacement well what is the problem of having the best of both worlds? a laptop that is stil small enough and weighs a pratical amount so can be moved when needed and a big monitor for when you are at home and want one.

I think if you actually read my first post that i pointed out that you are not going to be able to find a 20" laptop for the same price but as this machine is advertised as a desktop replacement you need a machine that is going to last you and is able to move with the times and this is just not it. far better off getting the 2 seperate items.
#11
You certainly never found one so you bodged it.
I am sure your suggestion has a use. As does a Netbook
As does a desktop.

But they are certainly very dissimilar.
#12
LadyEleanor
You certainly never found one so you bodged it.
I am sure your suggestion has a use. As does a Netbook
As does a desktop.

But they are certainly very dissimilar.


No, I didn't find one because I didn't look. It may well be that there isn't a cheaper 20" laptop on the market, but THAT ISN'T THE POINT!!!!

This machine is a solution without a problem and, as several other people have tried to point out to you, there are sooooo many better, cheaper and more powerful ways of having a decent size screen while at home whilst enjoying the portability of a laptop when away from home!!
#13
LadyEleanor
Find a comparative 19" or 20" laptop. One suitable for presentations and as a home media centre.


Just about any laptop is suitable for presentations, and I think your TV would be used for displaying the output from a home media centre rather than a laptop, regardless of how big the screen is!!!!
#14
curofone
buy a good 15" laptop and a nice 20" or 22" monitor and then you have the pratical laptop that you can actually move when you want to and a big screen when you need to use at your desk and then you have the best of both worlds and a laptop that a lot better specs than this


Surely, this is the ideal solution.
#15
No8
Surely, this is the ideal solution.


well i guess we are singing of the same hymn sheet, i just do not see the point of a 20" laptop that weighs 8kg as pratically it can't be moved and therefore if you are having a static machine buy a desktop, if space is an issue then there are plenty of slim line machines out there although they are terribly unreliable or like i said before buy a 15" laptop with a much better spec than this and a big monitor. Even if i did see the point of 20" laptop i would not touch this becuase the spec is so bad it might be the cheapest out there but that is for a reason it's ****.
#16
OK
It is not a good deal because you don't want a 20" laptop.

What if one wanted a 20" laptop?
The HP one at £1500?
#17
LadyEleanor
OK
It is not a good deal because you don't want a 20" laptop.

What if one wanted a 20" laptop?
The HP one at £1500?


It is not a good deal becuase it it has a c**p spec for £530. The whole point of this machine is to be a desktop replacement, that is what acer advertise it as but this could not replace any desktop brought in the last 3 years with a spec like that.

By all means make a 20" laptop if people out there want them but put some decent hardware in it, who in there right mind is going to buy a laptop for £530 that only has 1gb RAM, a very ordinary processor, a graphics card that is 2 years old and does not even support direct x 10 and a small hard drive?

Seriously if you brought this you would need you head examining, why on earth would you pay for a machine that minus the screen would cost £350 at most (and that is only becuase it has dedicated graphics) , you telling me that you would pay an extra £180 to have screen that is 3" bigger one that i pointed out earlier especially as i have already pointed out that you can get a 22" screen for around the £100 mark. Considering this machine is never meant to leave the desk you would serious have to be mad not to buy a better laptop and and standalone screen or just stick with a desktop as this is just not a desktop replacement like it claims
#18
curofone
It is not a good deal becuase it it has a c**p spec for £530. The whole point of this machine is to be a desktop replacement, that is what acer advertise it as but this could not replace any desktop brought in the last 3 years with a spec like that.


A good 25%+ of desktops use zero games Intel graphics.
Until last month Dell sold desktops with single core celerons.

People buy netbooks with a 1.6Ghz CPU that is on a par with a Celeron 1200 Mhz.

Of course no one in their right mind wants a netbook with its tiny pointless screen!!!!

Add you have still not found any 20" laptop to recommend at all.
#19
LadyEleanor
A good 25%+ of desktops use zero games Intel graphics.
Until last month Dell sold desktops with single core celerons.

People buy netbooks with a 1.6Ghz CPU that is on a par with a Celeon 1200 Mhz.

Of course no one in their right mind wants a netbook with its tiny pointless screen!!!!

Add you have still not found any 20" laptop to recommend at all.


You have missed the point of this so badly it is laughable, netbooks are designed for people on the move so they can carry a laptop anywhere and carry on working while they are for instants on a train, therefore the need a processor that can handle some office appliacations and basic internet browsing and they need a processor that is not going to eat a battery which most of them do fantastically and i think are a great idea.

Now again this 20" laptop is designed as a desktop replacement, so from a desktop replacement you want a lot of power, a lot of storage and for it to be fast and a big screen, therefore you need a good processor (this has an ordinary one), good amount of fast ram (this has 1gb of 667mhz), 1 big hard drive or maybe 2 smaller ones that are fast (this has one small hard drive and does not specify the speed) a good graphics card (and this has a 2 year old graphics card that is outdate) for it to be as close to future proof as possible (well it is not even up to todays standards never mind the future, where is the wireless N for example) and a big screen (well it has got that but even that is not a great resolution). Well because it has got one thing out of six forget the rest this is a fantastic deal.

If you really wanted to buy a laptop as a desktop replacement please tell me what is wrong with buying a smaller laptop with a much better spec and an external monitor and saving yourself some money and getting a better spec laptop out of the deal?

Just becuase this is the cheapest 20" laptop on the market it does not make it a good deal, look around on these forums there loads of stupidly cheap netbooks on this that have got voted cold becuase they are rubbish specs, there are plenty of ordinary laptops that are cheap and voted cold becuase they are rubbish specs, just becuase it is the cheapest it does not make it good
#20
The point is that it is a laptop with a very large screen.

Now I know why I don't have a Bentley. The damn things are too heavy.:whistling:
I just laugh out loud when Victoria drives past in hers.
#21
LadyEleanor
Of course no one in their right mind wants a netbook with its tiny pointless screen!!!!


This really shows how out of touch you are - for the last quarter of 2008, netbooks accounted for over 38% of the PC market!!
#22
I wondered why there was such a lack of humourless reposts. And there was me thinking it was blatant sarcasm.

Can you also tell me who won the 3.20 at Kempton Park on boxing day 2008 please.

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