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Acer Aspire Revo R3600 Nettop (Intel Atom N230 1.6 Ghz, 1 GB RAM, 8 GB SSD, Linux) £149.99 @ Amazon

£149.99 @ Amazon
Rating - The Gadget Show http://fwd.five.tv/gadgets/computing/desktops/acer-aspire-revo * Redefines compact, affordable computing * Big on performance but miniscule in size * Based …
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Rating - The Gadget Show
http://fwd.five.tv/gadgets/computing/desktops/acer-aspire-revo

* Redefines compact, affordable computing
* Big on performance but miniscule in size
* Based around nVidia's ION performance platform
* Stutter free 1080p playback
* Multiple connectivity options and extreme gaming performance

Operating System: Linux OS
Dimensions: 180 (L) x 180 (H) x 30 (W) mm
Processor: Intel Atom 1.6Ghz
Cache Memory: 512KB
RAM: 1 Gb
Hard Drive: 8 Gb SSD
Graphics: NVIDIA ION graphics solution supporting Microsoft DirectX 10
Audio Output: High-definition audio support
Connectivity: Gigabit Ethernet, Wake-on-LAN ready, WLAN: 802.11 b/g/Draft-N
Input: 4-in-1 card reader (MMC, SD, xD-Picture Card, Memory Stick), 6 x USB 2.0, HD headphone/microphone, DC-in, Ethernet (RJ-45), D-Sub (VGA), HDMI, eSATA
Manufacturer Warranty: 1 year International Travellers Warranty
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#1
now thats better
#2
Watch out for that SSD size. I had a netbook with a 8GB SSD and that meant Vista wouldn't install, and no doubt Windows 7 wouldn't either - had to upgrade (££) to allow for it.
#3
nice, would make a first-rate myth frontend.
#4
mk-donald;6218259
Watch out for that SSD size. I had a netbook with a 8GB SSD and that meant Vista wouldn't install, and no doubt Windows 7 wouldn't either - had to upgrade (££) to allow for it.

windows 7 ive seen installed on a 8gb ssd...
#5
I thought the Gadget show gave it 4 stars (g's)?, it did come out top in the tests of the 3 mini pc's on show, but im pretty sure it was only 4 stars.
EDIT - just watched the video again and it did indeed get 4 G's and the version they tested came with 2gb ram, 160gb HD and Vista OS
#6
a1
the version they tested came with 2gb ram, 160gb HD and Vista OS


That ones's £236.36 @ Acer, maybe cheaper elsewhere?
Free next day delivery as well.
#7
a1
I thought the Gadget show gave it 4 stars (g's)?, it did come out top in the tests of the 3 mini pc's on show, but im pretty sure it was only 4 stars.
EDIT - just watched the video again and it did indeed get 4 G's and the version they tested came with 2gb ram, 160gb HD and Vista OS


i think the gadget show can be a good program. i watched this episode with interest..

but i could not understand why they gave the version they tested 4 and not 5G's it did exactly what they wanted and more... think they hate given 5G's might mean they endorse it or something lol
#8
a1
I thought the Gadget show gave it 4 stars (g's)?, it did come out top in the tests of the 3 mini pc's on show, but im pretty sure it was only 4 stars.
EDIT - just watched the video again and it did indeed get 4 G's and the version they tested came with 2gb ram, 160gb HD and Vista OS


i love the gadget show, but i hate their tests with a passion... they get 3 items from the (sometimes) hundreds available, then half the time their results (G scores) dont seem to make sense.

awoodhall2003
windows 7 ive seen installed on a 8gb ssd...


well reading the system requirements page, windows 7 (32bit) needs 16gb of hard drive space...

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/get/system-requirements.aspx

so good luck with that one :)
#9
Bargain, really good PC!
#10
Audidaz68
i think the gadget show can be a good program. i watched this episode with interest..

but i could not understand why they gave the version they tested 4 and not 5G's it did exactly what they wanted and more... think they hate given 5G's might mean they endorse it or something lol


Wouldn't give it 5Gs as it is not made by apple! I used to enjoy it but was so cheesed off by their obvious Apple bias
#11
I'm pretty sure Acer scrapped the SSD, so you may get a 160gb HDD version instead.
#12
droitwichgal

well reading the system requirements page, windows 7 (32bit) needs 16gb of hard drive space...

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/get/system-requirements.aspx

so good luck with that one :)


I've had windows 7 running succesfully on a 10gb hard drive with room to spare. It was appallingly slow and got worse once I'd installed OpenOffice and a couple of other programs(it's amazing how useless a PC is when all it has is an OS)!

However, this (running a lightwight version of Linux) with a 512gb/1tb external hard-drive is looking like a cheaper option than a NAS for my proposed squeezebox setup. Any thoughts?
#13
I'd be very careful with this, the 8GB SSD is terrible (I know as we I bought one at work to test out some systems on) we also got one of the, slightly, newer versions which came with the 160GB normal harddisk. This performs much better and it only cost £10 more. we got our's from ebuyer for £159.99, but unfortunately it's gone up to £179.99
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167153
Although this is a little cheaper, it's probably just not worth it, especially if your looking to use it as a media box (the drive will be too slow) or a NAS (the drive is just to tiny)
#14

Stutter free 1080p playback


This is very misleading - some of the codecs it supports, it will be unable to decode @ very high bitrates.
#15
are you all forgetting it has the ION platform

good deal
#16
ION is new so that makes it good, ah I see.
#17
ASUS have a dual cpu one coming out that will do all the codecs / high bit rates, i am waiting for reviews on it:

ASUS EeeBox PC EB1012
#18
Found this the other day

Nice little media centre pc, dual core atom cpu, Ion platform, 2gb ddr2 ram, full 1080p & dx10 playback, 320gb HD, windows vista premium and all fitting just bigger than your hand oh and it also plays COD4 & Need for Speed (the last one) as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgAZ67MuaK0

ASRock Ionstar 330
CPU - Intel® Atom™ 330 (Dual-Core CPU)
Chipset - NVIDIA® ION™ graphics processor
Memory - 2GB DDR2 800 MHz memory, support dual channel, maximum memory capacity 4GB*
VGA - NVIDIA® ION™ graphics, support DX10 / Full HD 1080p (Blu-ray / HD-DVD)* playback
HDD - 2.5” HDD 320GB
DVD - DVD Super Multi (Slim type)
I/O - 1 x HDMI (with HDMI to DVI adapter), 1 x D-Sub VGA, 6 x USB 2.0, 1 x S/PDIF (Optical)
LAN - Gigabit LAN
Sound - HD Audio 5.1 channel
System Acoustic - Below 26dB
Power Unit - 65W /19V Adapter
Dimension - 195mm (W) x 70mm (H) x 186mm (L)

Only thing to make this turely awesome is blu-ray player, remote, wireless adaptor if it had these in then it would truely be awesome but a peakly bit more expensive.

even so for £250 its a nice bit of kit for someone into media and wanting to play a bit of games.

£100 more gets you a Dual Core Atom not a single, 320GB Harddrive, Slimline DVD/CD burner, Extra 1GB Ram, Windows Vista Premium and its got the same benefits bar the wireless but you can play games COD4 be it on lower resolution looking around you can even play Crysis on it at @35 fps.

Must admin the Revo look serisouly ugly
1 Like #19
Thought long and hard about the revo a while ago but it just doesn't really make sense, esp the ssd version. If you want mkv stutter free playback then you'd go for a dedicated media player, something like the xtreamer, which is around 2/3 of the price with a firmware roadmap dedicated to this very purpose. If you want a pc that you can run media centre on as well as doing web browsing, torrents, emails, etc then it doesn't make sense to go with such a low spec machine as it will run really slowly- as the other poster mentions, £100 more and you can get a decent spec machine that can run windows 7 with media centre and media browser. If you want it for aesthetic purposes, then you need to think about where the external hdd is going to go, unless you're happy just uploading your films to a usb flash drive every time you want to watch one, or the additional cost of a nas drive, but bear in mind any system is going to struggle with streaming 1080p wirelessly, so in that case you're going to need a wired network to get any joy out of what people seem to think is the primary function of the machine.
Reasonable price for this but think carefully before taking the plunge.
#20
Tritonbairn
That ones's £236.36 @ Acer, maybe cheaper elsewhere?
Free next day delivery as well.


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Aspire-R3600-Desktop-Premium/dp/B0028QSIY4/ref=dp_cp_ob_ce_title_0

£229.99 at Amazon
#21
Thanks, OP! Ordered one - been waiting ages for these to come down to their 'proper' price as originally stated by the Acer Press Release!

FWIW, will be using as a MythTV frontend in the bedroom!
#22
Extreme gaming performance? Yeah right.
#24
One possibility is the Foxconn R10 S3 barebones unit, usually around £95, add hard drive (1TB Samsung £55) , memory (2GB £25) and you get a decent spec dual core Intel Atom 330 unit for about £175. Add a DVD writer for approx £20, if you want.

Obviously it is not as svelte as the other units mentioned and you have to able to put this together and install your own OS on it, but it is an option.
#25
I think the ebuyer deal is a better value.

According to Acer the unit can take up to 4GB Ram, which is pretty cool seeming how cheap it is.

The Nvidia ION cheap set from all the stuff I've read and seen does playback 1080p seamless so I not sure what people are questioning as it seem's more that up to the the task.
#26
I got one last week (from Amazon when it came back on stock) and just registered to tell you about it:

- It came with 160GB HD (Hitachi) - other comments @ Amazon also say they got a HD instead. Unless this batch is very different it is unlikely you get the SSD - you can always send it back if you do.

- It came with 1GB DDR2 800MHz memory (not 667) in 1 slot, so consider getting another 1GB 800MHz SO-DIMM module to enable dual-channel and 2GB for Vista/7. You could use a 667MHz one as probably the FSB of the Atom is not high enough take advantage of the higher controller bandwidth.

- The Atom (Model 230) can do 64-bit, and I'm running Windows 7 x64, though don't expect it to be any faster, but you could install 4GB and use it all should you want.

- The wireless performance (for me) is bad, tried many drivers for the Atheros 5007EG and none give me more than 512kB/s transfer rates even when connected at 54Mbit. I am replacing it with an Intel - otherwise I will change the internal antennas as they look rather small.

I hope this helps.
#27
ssouthall6
Thought long and hard about the revo a while ago but it just doesn't really make sense, esp the ssd version. If you want mkv stutter free playback then you'd go for a dedicated media player, something like the xtreamer, which is around 2/3 of the price with a firmware roadmap dedicated to this very purpose. If you want a pc that you can run media centre on as well as doing web browsing, torrents, emails, etc then it doesn't make sense to go with such a low spec machine as it will run really slowly- as the other poster mentions, £100 more and you can get a decent spec machine that can run windows 7 with media centre and media browser. If you want it for aesthetic purposes, then you need to think about where the external hdd is going to go, unless you're happy just uploading your films to a usb flash drive every time you want to watch one, or the additional cost of a nas drive, but bear in mind any system is going to struggle with streaming 1080p wirelessly, so in that case you're going to need a wired network to get any joy out of what people seem to think is the primary function of the machine.
Reasonable price for this but think carefully before taking the plunge.




This Xtreamer you talk of, does it decode DTS? (WD-HD Media player doesnt).

Also do you know the best place to buy it?
#28
MightyHorace
I think the ebuyer deal is a better value.

According to Acer the unit can take up to 4GB Ram, which is pretty cool seeming how cheap it is.

The Nvidia ION cheap set from all the stuff I've read and seen does playback 1080p seamless so I not sure what people are questioning as it seem's more that up to the the task.


NVidia ION DOES play stutter free 1080p HD content, BUT you need to enable GPU offloading. In Linux this is via the VDPAU setting, in Windows you need something like Cyberlink PowerDVD which gives you the option to choose hardware acceleration for watching HD content, ie it offloads all the work onto the graphics chip and not the processor. In linux the CPU only gets about 10% utilisation when watching a HD film...

I have a Revo and its setup with Linux and XBMC, it works fantastically as a media centre.

Heres a video showing it running a high bitrate Full HD video, it starts at approx 3mins into the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf5h6QxFleE
#29
mk-donald
Watch out for that SSD size. I had a netbook with a 8GB SSD and that meant Vista wouldn't install, and no doubt Windows 7 wouldn't either - had to upgrade (££) to allow for it.


I have WIndows 7 installed in my 8gb Dell Mini 9 ...
banned#30
I need a media centre PC, complete with blue ray player.
Something really small, but that can handle 1080p.

Any suggestions? - needs to be well under £500, and should have over 2GB RAM and at least 160GB HDD.
Thanks.
#31
This might fit the bill. Much faster CPU and the GPU is ok as well, comes with dual TV tuner, remote and keyboard >

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Sony_VGX-TP3E-B_T5750_2GHZ_Home_Entertainment_System_VGXTP3EB/version.asp?PID=695

This thread may help you as well >

http://www.avforums.com/forums/home-cinema-pcs/929140-alternative-sony-vaio-vgx-tp3e-b.html

Ah sorry didn't notice that it needed to have a Blu Ray player :(
#32
buy one of these and an external blu ray drive and install 4gb of ram should be under 500
1 Like #33
Here's an option with blu ray, sounds like it fits the bill >

http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=1043201&source=froogle

Information about the dual core Atom 330 >

http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLG9Y

That Asrock is not a great looker, but certainly a very good spec for the money, here's a review >

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/2792/asrock_ion_330_bd_nettop_affordable_overclockable_and_1080p_hd/index.html
banned#34
fishmaster
Here's an option with blu ray, sounds like it fits the bill >

http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=1043201&source=froogle

Information about the dual core Atom 330 >

http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLG9Y

That Asrock is not a great looker, but certainly a very good spec for the money, here's a review >

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/2792/asrock_ion_330_bd_nettop_affordable_overclockable_and_1080p_hd/index.html

That looks amazing value; many thanks!

Now to find a wireless keyboard with an integrated mouse of some kind!
#35
fishmaster
Here's an option with blu ray, sounds like it fits the bill >

http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=1043201&source=froogle

Information about the dual core Atom 330 >

http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLG9Y

That Asrock is not a great looker, but certainly a very good spec for the money, here's a review >

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/2792/asrock_ion_330_bd_nettop_affordable_overclockable_and_1080p_hd/index.html

Yep the ASROCK ION330 is a far superior box ..... dual core CPU and 320gb HDD, together with BluRay player. I have the non BluRay version and it's superb ... plays all my 720p & 1080p mkv files, without any issues.
#36
I wouldn't base a purchase decision on a gadget show review...last time i saw it they reviewed laptops by trying to use them on a human gyroscope?! oh and of course the apple won!
banned#37
philthomas
Yep the ASROCK ION330 is a far superior box ..... dual core CPU and 320gb HDD, together with BluRay player. I have the non BluRay version and it's superb ... plays all my 720p & 1080p mkv files, without any issues.

Hi, can I just ask how you get the sound from your media PC to come out of your home cinema system?
Do you connect it to your TV via HDMI, and then an optical cable from TV to the home cinema system?
1 Like #38
Wow, what a thread - have lunged from Amazon Revo to ASrock, to ebuyer (which is possibly cheaper at microwarehouse - from a quick froogle), back to amazon due to HDD not SSD info, and back to ASrock - thanks for the info fishmaster (about to read that review) - have some rep! As for the keyboard Villa, try looking at keysonic - I have a 2.4Ghz laptop style device (with trackpad) - think scan used to do it.

Edit, yep Villa, they do a handful now - go to http://www.scan.co.uk/Index.aspx?NT=1-0-22-353-0, filter by keyword pad & you should see a few!
#39
Now showing as unavailable at Amazon. :x
#40
jaybizzle
This Xtreamer you talk of, does it decode DTS? (WD-HD Media player doesnt).

Also do you know the best place to buy it?


Xtreamer supports the following:

Audio pass through : DTS, Dolby Digital, DTS-HD MA*, DTS-HD HR*, Dolby True HD*, Dolby Digital Plus*

* Not available in the shipped product. Will be available later with a firmware update.

At present I think you can only get the Xtreamer direct from the mf>here. Like any system out there it has its' limitations - there is no media browser style jukebox as yet, although there is talk of it appearing in the next firmware, and once the code is out in the open source it certainly won't be long before it has it.

HTH

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